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Started by Ironwolf, March 06, 2014, 03:01:32 PM

Ironwolf

I don't know about E3 and honestly I don't think they would relaunch it until its ready, even if they might advertise.

They do have people familiar with CoH code working with them. A lot is speculation that honestly I don't think they are doing until they secure the game. You could plan out your life with that hot girl in accounting but nothing happens until she says yes to the first date.

PSI-on

Quote from: Ironwolf on May 19, 2014, 12:47:55 PM
I don't know about E3 and honestly I don't think they would relaunch it until its ready, even if they might advertise.

They do have people familiar with CoH code working with them. A lot is speculation that honestly I don't think they are doing until they secure the game. You could plan out your life with that hot girl in accounting but nothing happens until she says yes to the first date.

...so I guess I bought these roses and chocolates a bit early...
Please don't send blind requests in games to me, I learned to ignore them in CoX, no offense meant. (this is only here until I can figure out how to put it in my actual profile on here.)

r00tb0ySlim

Quote from: Ironwolf on May 19, 2014, 12:47:55 PM
I don't know about E3 and honestly I don't think they would relaunch it until its ready, even if they might advertise.

They do have people familiar with CoH code working with them. A lot is speculation that honestly I don't think they are doing until they secure the game. You could plan out your life with that hot girl in accounting but nothing happens until she says yes to the first date.
Yea, the girl in accounting is my point.  If and when the game is secured they could choose to relaunch at E3 2015(?) for the stage or they could relaunch when ready via some sort of marketing campaign.  A surgical relaunch is just smart business and E3 makes sense.  I'm trying not get my hopes up too high due to the unknowns and a potential lengthy relaunch schedule  :-\  I will now go back to waiting and lurking....

MWRuger

I think they will launch as soon as they feasibly can. Remember, this engine isn't getting any younger. By they time they relaunch (assuming they do) it will be what 11 or 12 years old?

My guess is that they will relaunch do a word of mouth advertising campaign and interviews on MMO sites to take advantage of human interest story "of the game that would not die" and finish 124. Possibly some new development of partially finished stuff if it can be done cheaply

Then announce the development of CoH2 using a new engine.

They would probably keep CoH going and even offer some kind of migration from 1 to 2 (to give those who wouldn't want to play the aging game a reason to do so. It would probably be limited in either in number or time to help players make the move to the new game.

Once CoH2 launches, CoH goes into maintenance mode and active development continues on the sequel.

To me, this is the most likely strategy that a company could use to make the property viable. As much as I love COH (and I do) it was going to continue to shrink over time. It might have been profitable when it was closed, but at some point the cost of patching and maintain the aging software would be significant to the diminishing profits.

It seems to me that a company that wants to relaunch CoH for profit, has to plan for a Coh2 or lose the bulk of its customers when CoT launches.

But we'll see. If it happens it will be a huge comeback story (and also to shove in the gobs of all those who said it couldn't happen and to just move on and quit yer bitchin')
AKA TheDevilYouKnow
Return of CoH - Oh My God! It looks like it can happen!

Ironwolf

I am not speaking with any knowledge - just speculation on my own part, it might be a thing where you get access to both games and with a VIP deal if you sub to both.

I would imagine any further development would use a F2P model?

MWRuger

Quote from: Ironwolf on May 19, 2014, 06:01:19 PM
I am not speaking with any knowledge - just speculation on my own part, it might be a thing where you get access to both games and with a VIP deal if you sub to both.

I would imagine any further development would use a F2P model?

I have no inside knowledge either. It just seems like a reasonable guess that something like this is the easiest way forward.

It should satisfy most of the current community as well as gaining future clients.

Yes, I could see that. A cash shop along the lines of what we had as well as points if you subscribe with bonus if you subscribe to both.

Ala Carte perks if you want F2P only.

One of the things I would look at is even though it is very different, is Doctor Who Legacy. It has a F2P model that involves a cash store and you can in fact get EVERYTHING in the game just by playing. The catch is that it takes a LONG time to do so. So you can grind your way through and get it or spend a little and get it quicker. They even offer incentives to do that by having a special area that you can unlock after a small purchase. The Fan Area has few unlocks that you can get early and drops Time Crystals (the currency of the game) so that you basically get double the number that you paid for.

AKA TheDevilYouKnow
Return of CoH - Oh My God! It looks like it can happen!

Styrj

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!  Infinity Server...

MWRuger

#1187
By the way, I was talking to the wife of friend (both of whom are ex-CoH gamers) and she was surprised to learn about the current community and even the efforts to resurrect the game.

This (even though apocryphal) emphasizes what has been said about reaching out to former players who have little or no clue when the time comes. Her opinion was that she would be unlikely to play if she couldn't recover all the characters she had invested so much time into. While I would be OK with a wipe that caused a reset, I think if there is any reasonable way to recover this data it ought to be tried.

I believe a sizable number of former players would at least take a look if they could get their old characters back. Even if they just showed for events like Double XP and holiday events it would be worthwhile. It would also make marketing a potential sequel much easier when you have a dedicated and captive audience.
AKA TheDevilYouKnow
Return of CoH - Oh My God! It looks like it can happen!

TonyV

Quote from: Ironwolf on May 19, 2014, 12:47:55 PM
You could plan out your life with that hot girl in accounting but nothing happens until she says yes to the first date.

Wait, do you know something I don't?  What did she tell you?

MWRuger

Quote from: TonyV on May 19, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
Wait, do you know something I don't?  What did she tell you?

Conventional wisdom says that if she isn't interested in you she is probably a lesbian. So I guess she said that.
AKA TheDevilYouKnow
Return of CoH - Oh My God! It looks like it can happen!

BadWolf

Quote from: Ironwolf on May 16, 2014, 01:14:47 PM
I am sorry no updates, but please remember I don't know exactly when the talks are scheduled. I do know once there is a result either way - they will post here and you will finally know who is doing what!

I have to say with some of the speculation I have had to bite my tongue more than once.

It's okay, we're using the time productively. I'm trying to teach the drinks synthesizer to make tea. I've been explaining to it about bone china and Ceylon and India...

Ohioknight

Quote from: Ironwolf on May 19, 2014, 06:01:19 PM
I am not speaking with any knowledge - just speculation on my own part, it might be a thing where you get access to both games and with a VIP deal if you sub to both.

I would imagine any further development would use a F2P model?

Should I assume you don't know anything regarding what their attitude to private servers would be if they bought the game?
(I'm sure it's in no way a premature question) :)
"Wow, a fat, sarcastic, Star Trek fan, you must be a devil with the ladies"

HEATSTROKE

 Im still hoping I can get all my stuff back..

Tyger42

Quote from: HEATSTROKE on May 19, 2014, 01:44:12 AM
4) finishing the Wind Control, Radiation Armor and Radiation Melee powersets (placeholders are on Icon)

And Bio Armor and Psionic Melee. :p

HEATSTROKE

Quote from: Tyger42 on May 20, 2014, 12:43:58 AM
And Bio Armor and Psionic Melee. :p

oh yeah them too.. but they looked like they were pretty much finished and ready to go..

I really dont like that stuff that looks like poo in Bio Armor though.. yuck..

Dev7on

If City of Heroes comes back not only we'll make history but, do you think it's possible to make a movie about how the CoH community brought back City of Heroes? I'm pretty sure the title of the movie would obviously be called #SaveCoH. That would be AWESOME!!!  :P

Wammo

Have I missed something here? Is there a legitimate possibility we will be resurrected at this late hour? If so would someone please fill me in on the pertinent details!

HEATSTROKE

 the quick synopsis.

There are a group of people trying to buy the game
They have a contact and NC Soft
There has been a price of some type set (no details of how much or what that price entails)
There is a meeting set with no timetable having been made public (obviously known to the potential buyers)
 

  We expect some announcement to be made whether the answer from NC Soft is yay or naw..

Thats about it..

BenshowSly

Quote from: HEATSTROKE on May 20, 2014, 03:09:41 AM
the quick synopsis.

There are a group of people trying to buy the game
They have a contact and NC Soft
There has been a price of some type set (no details of how much or what that price entails)
There is a meeting set with no timetable having been made public (obviously known to the potential buyers)
 

  We expect some announcement to be made whether the answer from NC Soft is yay or naw..

Thats about it..

Maybe just a detail but an important one, we don't expect the announcement in question tomorrow or next week or anything closely. Just saying so we don't get tons of impatient people asking "When?" every two posts.

LaughingAlex

Eh, was messing with fun stuff in minecraft.  Mostly chickens and hoppers, though some dropper fun.  I need to remake this video with instructions sometime; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHKAL13rCiw . Yes thats a cannon.  And I already know how to make a longer barrage.

Edit: Things like that are how I pass the time untill I see some news :).
Currently; Not doing any streaming, found myself with less time available recently.  Still playing starbound periodically, though I am thinking of trying other games.  Don't tell me to play mmohtg's though please :).  Getting back into participating in VO and the successors again to.