I'm Rightfully Pissed off!

Started by FoxTrot21, June 20, 2013, 06:48:05 PM

FoxTrot21

Okay, this is going to be a very angry post.
and its pretty much going to attack alot of things

NCsoft, your a bunch of !#@$ , limp !#@$, Son of a !@#$, that can't see a good thing when its standing ontop of a pooltable sawying its !@# at you!
Why didn't you sell COH? People ASKED to buy it, They offered alot of money for it! but nooooo in your cosmic glory you decided to just shut it down, !@#$ US the consumers. Do we have rights?! NO.

NCsoft you deserve the financial hole your in right now, YOU have no loyalty to your customers. if a game that was released back in 1998, T4C, can still be going with 12 players per server, and about 20 diffrent servers. you could have kept COH running with less servers and automated it like your doing GW. You bunch of scum. 

I'm also mad at my self, While I did play COH, and bought a sub, It was my first MMO I ever played and loved. but I stoped, because of life. Yea I booted it up and ran around from time to time, but I'll never get to have the experinces you did, I'll never get to enjoy playing with friends again. As I've drifted from mmo to mmo and yet there isn't a community like this one.

Captain Electric

Well Stone Daemon, in the OP's defense, I can say this. I learned about the closure way back on August 31, 2012.

Except for the "stopping" part, I still feel exactly like the OP feels.

FoxTrot21

Quote from: Captain Electric on June 20, 2013, 09:02:02 PM
Well Stone Daemon, in the OP's defense, I can say this. I learned about the closure way back on August 31, 2012.

Except for the "stopping" part, I still feel exactly like the OP feels.
I knew about it for a while I'm just still pissed off. With everything going on, Its just ugh.  Then I heard somethings from some friends that are inside about how they Refused to sell it because of the whole stink we caused. Yea I'm still pissed off about it

Aggelakis

They didn't refuse to sell it because of the stink we caused. They refused to sell it even before the stink we caused. Then after the stink we caused, they just continued to refuse. We didn't make a difference to them (only to us, and gaming in general).
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TonyV

I'm going to leave this open a liiiiitle bit longer because I understand the need to vent right now, but be forewarned that I'd like to maintain some semblance of positivity here, even though I'm sure we're all feeling at least a bit of this right now.  Just don't let it get out of hand.

Captain Electric

Quote from: FoxTrot21 on June 20, 2013, 09:19:15 PMThen I heard somethings from some friends that are inside about how they Refused to sell it because of the whole stink we caused.

That's kind of funny to think about, I mean because I could really see them obliging us if the alternative were true. "Those fans are being so docile and quiet over this! A sure sign they love the game! Oh, come on, Nexon, let's throw the pathetic westerners a bone..." /sarcasm

When NCSoft milks and stabs its remaining western properties in the back, my sincere and honest hope is that they will never step foot in the NA/EU markets again. We would be much better off.

Stone Daemon

Awww I was just teasin'  ;D

(totally understand though)

Joshex

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Quote from: FoxTrot21 on June 20, 2013, 06:48:05 PM
Okay, this is going to be a very angry post.
and its pretty much going to attack alot of things

NCsoft, your a bunch of !#@$ , limp !#@$, Son of a !@#$, that can't see a good thing when its standing ontop of a pooltable sawying its !@# at you!
Why didn't you sell COH? People ASKED to buy it, They offered alot of money for it! but nooooo in your cosmic glory you decided to just shut it down, !@#$ US the consumers. Do we have rights?! NO.

NCsoft you deserve the financial hole your in right now, YOU have no loyalty to your customers. if a game that was released back in 1998, T4C, can still be going with 12 players per server, and about 20 diffrent servers. you could have kept COH running with less servers and automated it like your doing GW. You bunch of scum. 

I'm also mad at my self, While I did play COH, and bought a sub, It was my first MMO I ever played and loved. but I stoped, because of life. Yea I booted it up and ran around from time to time, but I'll never get to have the experinces you did, I'll never get to enjoy playing with friends again. As I've drifted from mmo to mmo and yet there isn't a community like this one.

technically as customers we do have rights, and most of those rights cannot be disclaimed or signed away in a ToS or EULA. they are internationally accepted business policies. violaters /WILL/ be prosecuted.

please calm down, Google might be able to work it's magic in this situation. they have lawyers that I don't, better lawyers, stronger lawyers, Faster lawyers, More more lawyers. look in the sky is it a bird? is it a plane? no it's google's super lawyer! and look at that he just wrote out a subpoena in his jet trail.

seriously if the lawyers I'm talking to think I have a case then google can blow them away lol.
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Captain Electric

Quote from: Joshex on June 21, 2013, 02:52:19 AMthey have lawyers that I don't, better lawyers, stronger lawyers, Faster lawyers, More more lawyers. look in the sky is it a bird? is it a plane? no it's google's super lawyer! and look at that he just wrote out a subpoena in his jet trail.

LOL! Joshex you crack me up sometimes.  :D

JaguarX

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Quote from: Joshex on June 21, 2013, 02:52:19 AM
technically as customers we do have rights, and most of those rights cannot be disclaimed or signed away in a ToS or EULA. they are internationally accepted business policies. violaters /WILL/ be prosecuted.

please calm down, Google might be able to work it's magic in this situation. they have lawyers that I don't, better lawyers, stronger lawyers, Faster lawyers, More more lawyers. look in the sky is it a bird? is it a plane? no it's google's super lawyer! and look at that he just wrote out a subpoena in his jet trail.

seriously if the lawyers I'm talking to think I have a case then google can blow them away lol.

yup, but why would Google want to do that? To strong arm them into selling? Possible. But I think they would have started to attempt that already and wouldnt even need us to "put them on" the availabilty of COX or need a pitch. They probably would have done it.

At the same time, even a lawsuit probably wont bring COX back even if at this point someone tried to sue for lack of use as really it only been six months and not like COX been out for years yet and it would be easy to brush it off  as they have plans for it in the future or release a token comic just to say the yare still "marketing" the IP and stuff. CUstomer service wise, bad customer service is not a crime, neither is discontinuing a product. But ripping off folks can be if the wording is right. But go in half stepping and a person they find them selves in a deep hole but in that aspect, I doubt Google can start a lawsuit for that or anything. 

Then with international business law, soemtimes it comes down to what is convient at the time especially when dealing with companies of different countries as it can easily trickle over to an international political issue like "United States corporations trying to bully South Korean corporations. This cant be good for trade agreements. The Korea Chamber of Commerce said they are outraged. Google nor the US Chamber of Commerce have released any statements. "


All kidding aside, what can they be subpoenaed for due to Google?


Although I'm sure many would gain a great feeling of Schadenfreude if that happened, but is it even possible? Not to mention, it still probably wouldnt free COX. Even in the US where free market is prefered, I doubt any judge of any type will order NCSoft to relinguish something they rightfully own regardless of offers. COX is not a commodity that is sacred to life health or limb with Ncsoft having the only key. ANd i nthe ocurt of law, they probably wouldnt call COX a monopoly, and probably will classify it as a video game of some sort and in their eyes there are thousands if not millions of other games, and unfortunately probably wouldnt call COX a much needed only available means of communication, psychological therapy, or even subscription being an investment anymore than a website with a subcription base that go offline. Unless somehow someone didnt get what they paid for, which is more of a civil matter and probably have nothing to do with Google.

Captain Electric

I think it would accomplish bringing the "News of the Weird" section of newspapers to the front page, above the fold.

"Google lawyers go after NCSoft for shutting down game owned by NCSoft."

Those of you who work in offices, you know that weird thing that happens, getting trapped in the warped reality of office politics and gossip, where ridiculous topics take on a kind of legitimacy and importance that seem almost Loony Tunes-like when reflected on back at home?

I think we get caught in tiny loops of warped reality here on the forums sometimes, too.

Sailboat

What is this thread about?  I've been looking around the forums and can't put it in context.  It looks like a complaint that Google turned us down, but the Google pitch threads have new posts in them and don't seem to indicate any such news.

What's up?

eabrace

Quote from: Sailboat on June 21, 2013, 04:07:59 PM
What is this thread about?  I've been looking around the forums and can't put it in context.  It looks like a complaint that Google turned us down, but the Google pitch threads have new posts in them and don't seem to indicate any such news.

What's up?
No news from Google.

As best I can tell, there was just a need to vent some built up steam.

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I think NCSoft woke up a whole lounge of sleeping lions when they closed City of Heroes.

AND I HAVE THE PICTURES TO PROVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That picture's awesome.  What really puts it over the top:  The Morgan Freeman Voice.   8)
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Is he jumping, or is his tail caught on the fan, spinning him around the room like crazy? NOW IT'S A PARTY.

CoyoteSeven

I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!

Lenya

Quote from: Aggelakis on June 20, 2013, 09:22:11 PM
They didn't refuse to sell it because of the stink we caused. They refused to sell it even before the stink we caused. Then after the stink we caused, they just continued to refuse. We didn't make a difference to them (only to us, and gaming in general).

THIS.

And I do feel like the OP too. A LOT.
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beveri8469

it still pisses me off why ncsoft would kill a game that was making money for them. i know it aint wow money up there, but still it was making them money. but instead they just kick their customers to the curb and that's it.
well i know one good thing is that we are getting 3 successors out of it and i hope all 3 games and the community succeed very well.
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Woodsfire

Quote from: beveri8469 on June 22, 2013, 07:37:31 AMwell i know one good thing is that we are getting 3 successors out of it and i hope all 3 games and the community succeed very well.

And I fully intend to play every one of them.