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Community => City of Heroes => Topic started by: Grinnz on February 05, 2008, 03:39:15 AM

Title: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Grinnz on February 05, 2008, 03:39:15 AM
Since a few weeks ago (since CGT went on the fritz, actually), I haven't been able to get either HeroStats or TNT to be able to recognize that I'm online. I don't really know what else to say. Anyone else having this problem?
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Voltaic Shock on February 05, 2008, 03:44:06 AM
Since a few weeks ago (since CGT went on the fritz, actually), I haven't been able to get either HeroStats or TNT to be able to recognize that I'm online. I don't really know what else to say. Anyone else having this problem?

Are you linked to CGT with your Titan Key?

The unstable build of HS should work with GGT, but it requires you use your Titan Key.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Grinnz on February 05, 2008, 03:54:13 AM
Well, I've only tried the stable build of Herostats, mainly I'm trying to get the beta TNT to work. Yes, I have linked my CGT account; would it be a problem that my titan key shares my CGT account's username?
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Voltaic Shock on February 05, 2008, 03:55:31 AM
Well, I've only tried the stable build of Herostats, mainly I'm trying to get the beta TNT to work. Yes, I have linked my CGT account; would it be a problem that my titan key shares my CGT account's username?

It shouldn't be, but you might be one of the users that has that issue.

SuckerPunch should be able to help you in the morning.

In the meantime you could try the unstable build of HS and see if that works.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Grinnz on February 05, 2008, 04:02:14 AM
It shouldn't be, but you might be one of the users that has that issue.

SuckerPunch should be able to help you in the morning.

In the meantime you could try the unstable build of HS and see if that works.
Just downloaded and installed; I noticed that in preferences I had to re-enter all my accounts, but as the program is not picking up on the fact that I'm even playing still, that doesn't seem to be the problem.
Same issue :(
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: SuckerPunch on February 05, 2008, 12:14:02 PM
Hang on - Is HeroStats picking up ANYTHING about your character, or is just not sending your status to CGT?

If it's not picking up anything - which is what it sounds like - that's a chat channel issue.  HeroStats has an FAQ here that may fix the issue:

http://herostats.org/release-notes.html#Known_Issue_Chat_Tabs
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Suzumebachi on February 05, 2008, 09:29:20 PM
Hi, I'm also suffering this problem.  I'm running the stable version of HeroStats (3.8.9.0) and it's correctly updating CIT and Badge-Hunter but not CGT.  According to CGT my last character online was on the 24th of January, but I've played most days this week with a variety of chars.

Again, my CGT and Titan Key usernames are the same, if this has any bearing on it.  I have changed my CGT password to be different from the Titan Key one but the problem persists.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Grinnz on February 05, 2008, 09:59:48 PM
Hang on - Is HeroStats picking up ANYTHING about your character, or is just not sending your status to CGT?

If it's not picking up anything - which is what it sounds like - that's a chat channel issue.  HeroStats has an FAQ here that may fix the issue:

http://herostats.org/release-notes.html#Known_Issue_Chat_Tabs
Well that sounded like if it wasn't picking up certain data about the character; my problem is that it's not picking up anything. Both herostats and TNT are staying in the offline state the entire time, don't get any data whatsoever.

I'll try the workaround though, doesn't seem too difficult.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Voltaic Shock on February 05, 2008, 10:27:27 PM
Hi, I'm also suffering this problem.  I'm running the stable version of HeroStats (3.8.9.0) and it's correctly updating CIT and Badge-Hunter but not CGT.  According to CGT my last character online was on the 24th of January, but I've played most days this week with a variety of chars.

Again, my CGT and Titan Key usernames are the same, if this has any bearing on it.  I have changed my CGT password to be different from the Titan Key one but the problem persists.

You have to use the unstable version of HS to work with CGT.  The stable version no longer works with CGT.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Suzumebachi on February 05, 2008, 11:04:22 PM
Ah, my error, thanks   ;D  That works great.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Grinnz on February 08, 2008, 03:15:42 AM
Well that sounded like if it wasn't picking up certain data about the character; my problem is that it's not picking up anything. Both herostats and TNT are staying in the offline state the entire time, don't get any data whatsoever.

I'll try the workaround though, doesn't seem too difficult.
Tried the chat tab thing, still neither TNT or unstable Herostats can tell if I'm online.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Voltaic Shock on February 08, 2008, 03:22:37 AM
Tried the chat tab thing, still neither TNT or unstable Herostats can tell if I'm online.

What version of TNT are you running?

What is your OS?
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Grinnz on February 08, 2008, 03:23:48 AM
What version of TNT are you running?

What is your OS?
Latest version, but uhh it doesn't say :p
OS is WinXP Pro 32-bit.

Herostats worked fine to detect that I was on and do stats and such before City Game Tracker stopped working. I'm not sure if it worked just before, as I was using CGT instead. Then CGT stopped working (crashed on opening) so I tried to use Herostats, it didn't see me as online, and it hasn't since. This was weeks ago at least.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Voltaic Shock on February 08, 2008, 03:26:20 AM
CGT doesn't work anymore.

When you open up TNT, just head over to the "about" tab and it will tell you the version.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Grinnz on February 08, 2008, 03:39:08 AM
CGT doesn't work anymore.

When you open up TNT, just head over to the "about" tab and it will tell you the version.
I know CGT doesn't work anymore, I'm trying to get a sense for the time at which Herostats stopped working for me.

Version is 1.0.3.3, tried it with pretty much every version of it since it went to open beta.

this is kind of why i posted it here and not in a specific bug reporting section - it doesn't seem like a specific problem with Herostats or TNT.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Voltaic Shock on February 08, 2008, 12:51:36 PM
I'm out of ideas, but I'm sure some of the other Titan members might have some.

I'll keep thinking though.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: ineffablebob on February 08, 2008, 02:14:14 PM
Latest version, but uhh it doesn't say :p
OS is WinXP Pro 32-bit.

Herostats worked fine to detect that I was on and do stats and such before City Game Tracker stopped working. I'm not sure if it worked just before, as I was using CGT instead. Then CGT stopped working (crashed on opening) so I tried to use Herostats, it didn't see me as online, and it hasn't since. This was weeks ago at least.
This makes no sense to me, so it probably means that there's an installation problem somewhere. That's usually the culprit when stuff stops working for no reason.

I'd suggest this. Uninstall HeroStats, CGT, TNT, and anything else related to those (such as HeroLCD if you have that). Also uninstall the .NET Framework version 2.0. Reboot. Download the latest HeroStats (unstable version, as that's the only one working with CGT right now anyway) and install it - this will also reinstall the .NET Framework. Reboot again. Now run CoX and HeroStats and see if you're recognized as online *in HeroStats* (not CGT yet).

If it works up to that point, then you can configure your options to connect to CGT, try TNT, etc.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Grinnz on February 08, 2008, 09:07:02 PM
This makes no sense to me, so it probably means that there's an installation problem somewhere. That's usually the culprit when stuff stops working for no reason.

I'd suggest this. Uninstall HeroStats, CGT, TNT, and anything else related to those (such as HeroLCD if you have that). Also uninstall the .NET Framework version 2.0. Reboot. Download the latest HeroStats (unstable version, as that's the only one working with CGT right now anyway) and install it - this will also reinstall the .NET Framework. Reboot again. Now run CoX and HeroStats and see if you're recognized as online *in HeroStats* (not CGT yet).

If it works up to that point, then you can configure your options to connect to CGT, try TNT, etc.
Will try later, thanks.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Grinnz on February 10, 2008, 02:31:51 AM
No luck :(

Would it be possible it has to do with where CoH is installed? I had it installed on my C: drive, but uninstalled/reinstalled it to my K: drive, which is actually an Ext drive, using the Ext2 IFS kernel drivers (http://www.fs-driver.org). Other than writing files larger than 2GB, I've had no issues with the driver, so unless it's the change of drive letter I don't know why that would affect it. Only thing I can think of that would be significantly different for me than the average user.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: ineffablebob on February 10, 2008, 03:51:22 AM
Would it be possible it has to do with where CoH is installed? I had it installed on my C: drive, but uninstalled/reinstalled it to my K: drive, which is actually an Ext drive, using the Ext2 IFS kernel drivers (http://www.fs-driver.org). Other than writing files larger than 2GB, I've had no issues with the driver, so unless it's the change of drive letter I don't know why that would affect it. Only thing I can think of that would be significantly different for me than the average user.
HeroStats does read the CoH executable in order to figure out where to look in memory for stuff. If your Cityofheroes.exe file isn't accessible, that would cause the problem. I don't know for sure why your external drive would matter, but it's a possibility.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Grinnz on February 10, 2008, 04:51:10 AM
HeroStats does read the CoH executable in order to figure out where to look in memory for stuff. If your Cityofheroes.exe file isn't accessible, that would cause the problem. I don't know for sure why your external drive would matter, but it's a possibility.
That would make sense. No reason it wouldn't be able to find it, but obviously it isn't. (and TNT isn't either.)
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Tazhyngarth on March 07, 2008, 04:33:24 PM
That would make sense. No reason it wouldn't be able to find it, but obviously it isn't. (and TNT isn't either.)

Grinnz, it seems we've missed this Thread after trying to keep up with the other issues on this Forum.  Have you had any success in getting the TNT to work on your PC?

If you are still using your External Drive, have you tried installing everything on it to see if it would work.  This being your Game, the HS and TNT Clients, and whatever else you've installed pertaining to the CoX Client.  Perhaps dumping everything into the same Drive (as everything is normally defaulted all under the C Drive) would allow everything to read/function properly.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Thrillseeker on March 15, 2008, 06:23:37 AM
I am with Grnnz on this one. My Titan Network Tracker (v1.0.3.5) isn't tracking anything. My Herostats, version 4.0.0.0 IS tracking things locally. No idea if it is exchanging info with the mothership. My installation of both products has not changed since the last time they were working fully. Same with CoH. Same directories, same OS (XP Pro). I have all the latest .NET patches and versions.

Is it working for anyone?

In a casual look through the visible characters listed on the database online, I can't see anyone with a 'last played' date more recent than late Jan 2008 or early Feb 2008.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Homeslice513 on March 15, 2008, 01:33:21 PM
I am with Grnnz on this one. My Titan Network Tracker (v1.0.3.5) isn't tracking anything. My Herostats, version 4.0.0.0 IS tracking things locally. No idea if it is exchanging info with the mothership. My installation of both products has not changed since the last time they were working fully. Same with CoH. Same directories, same OS (XP Pro). I have all the latest .NET patches and versions.

Is it working for anyone?

In a casual look through the visible characters listed on the database online, I can't see anyone with a 'last played' date more recent than late Jan 2008 or early Feb 2008.

Just wanted to say everything is working for me and the funny thing is herostats used to not work for me but now it does. I am using Vista and who knows what settings I changed to make sure everything was working but I would think without  UAC in xp you shouldn't really have any issues.

I am just not sure how Stats or Titan actually locates the files and knows to read them.
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: SuckerPunch on March 15, 2008, 05:26:10 PM
The CGT homepage (http://www.citygametracker.com/site/) tells me that there are 54 people online right now, so I'm pretty confident that it's working, for the most part.

Not being on Vista I'm not really sure why you wouldn't be tracking.

You said you are "with Grinnz" - does that mean you are running CoH off a separate hard drive than the Titan install?
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Homeslice513 on March 15, 2008, 06:17:54 PM
I just wanted to do a test today and see what happened.

Herostats updates and works for all the sites for me. I did have to run it as administrator but other than that it did work. I also have them all in the default location (C drive)
Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Thrillseeker on March 18, 2008, 12:51:41 AM
I, too, have them all on the same drive on the machine that I use both on. (If that sentence parses.)

I have tweaked some firewall stuff (McAffe said TnT was set to outbound-only... I gave full access to try that), we will see if that corrects things. Strange thing for me is that it all worked fine until early Feb. None of my character listings in the online DB have updated since then.

Title: Re: TNT/HeroStats, neither will see that I'm online?
Post by: Tazhyngarth on March 18, 2008, 12:54:47 AM
Have you attempted a Fresh Install of TNT?  I mean, if all else fails, Uninstall it and clear out anything you can find in regards to the Application, then do a fresh Download and try again.  Perhaps a File got corrupted, in which case a Fresh Install would be the way to go.