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Title: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Portland Underground on December 02, 2012, 02:27:51 PM
Talos was my favorite zone.  For whatever reason, it was my default place to hang out when just sort of chilling in CoH.  I used to hang out on Rikti Hill and watch the heroes come and go and usually strike up chat with passers by.  I'm still having a difficult time with the fact that I cannot simply go and at the very least, craft some enhancements or pop into Pocket D. 

It was amazing on the final night to see so many old, familiar faces/names as people scrambled to get their last minutes in. 

I hope against hope that someday, somehow I'll emerge once more and run around Talos and all the other zones.  Flipping carefree with ninja run toggled and looking for a team.

That is all.  Sad face over.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: srmalloy on December 02, 2012, 08:03:22 PM
Quote from: Portland Underground on December 02, 2012, 02:27:51 PM
Talos was my favorite zone.  For whatever reason, it was my default place to hang out when just sort of chilling in CoH.  I used to hang out on Rikti Hill and watch the heroes come and go and usually strike up chat with passers by.  I'm still having a difficult time with the fact that I cannot simply go and at the very least, craft some enhancements or pop into Pocket D.

The sunsets in Talos island, with the light slanting through the buildings.

I always thought that, if we ever got to have actual physical locations in the game to put bases, I'd want to put a base in Talos Island, in the skyscraper NW of the tram, up at the floor where the first setback is, so that I could put railings up on the setback and have a balcony where I could go out and watch the sun go down across the city.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: johnrobey on December 02, 2012, 08:37:23 PM
Quote from: srmalloy on December 02, 2012, 08:03:22 PM
The sunsets in Talos island, with the light slanting through the buildings.

I always thought that, if we ever got to have actual physical locations in the game to put bases, I'd want to put a base in Talos Island, in the skyscraper NW of the tram, up at the floor where the first setback is, so that I could put railings up on the setback and have a balcony where I could go out and watch the sun go down across the city.

Talos was great!   So many good arcs; my fave's include "Twisted Reflections" from Field Agent Keith Nance, and "Looking Through the Glass" from Special Agent Jenny Adair, Episode 2 of SSA "Who Will Die", "The Scroll of Tielekku."
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Jonfan on December 02, 2012, 10:13:45 PM
Talos was my favorite place too. It had a variety of landscapes and something about living on an island, close to water always appealed to me. But I think in some ways, it's importance to me and other players was that fact that it was the zone you were playing in at the halfway point to 50.

Following that same thinking, Talos was also the cross-over zone to the upper level zones! When you were playing in Talos, you were really into the game at that point.

From Talos alone, you could get to PI, FF, Skyway, Striga, Pocket D (and therefore, Faultline) and the original DA, not to mention the nearly perfect layout and convenience for The Tram, The Base Portal, Wentworths, and The Tunnel system. Heck even the location that the Ouro portal took you to was convenient!

Add to that, the fact that it was also the zone everyone went to for their first SO's which made such a huge difference in your characters abilities makes it the hands-down winner imo.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: corvus1970 on December 02, 2012, 10:32:34 PM
I can vividly recall when the game was in its early months of release and I had not yet purchased it myself, I went over to see my friend Teddy, and he let me play the game a bit. I blundered into Talos as a lowbie by way of Skyway City, and was soon besieged by Tsoo Ink Men and rapidly defeated.

After I got the game myself, Talos soon became one of my favored zones, and remained so throughout the life of CoX. When the market system was added, Talos got its Wentworth's right next to the tram-line. Plus, Luminary (and Citadel) were right there waiting by the Tram's ramp, and the SG base-portal was there as well (later moved closer to Luminary if memory serves). Pocket D access was close by, as was the Police Station contact, and the Bank for storing salvage. Plus, Talos is one of the Zones where the Ouroboros portals led. Later when the Tunnel Portal access was added in Issue 23, it too was right off the tram.

Basically, almost everything (save for the The Hero Corps Field Analyst) was very well placed for ease of access, and the zone itself was very pleasing and lively, with a nice mix of enemy groups. It was indeed a great point of transition for heroes passing from the games early levels into its later ones.

So yeah, I miss Talos Island as well :(
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Synodontis on December 03, 2012, 03:46:36 AM
I started the game in Praetoria; my second toon went blueside and wound up in Talos; that was my first exposure to Paragon City proper.  It seemed a scary place!  Now it doesn't seem so scary, looking back.  Last time I was in Talos (I think the day before the end?) I took part in a Rikti invasion team, and took a photo of Cap'n Kraken's seafood sign.  Wish I had thought to take some pics of the boardwalk too.  Ah well... :)
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Epelesker on December 03, 2012, 04:14:03 AM
The waterfall at the Serpent's Teeth district was claimed for the dragons. That's the resting place of my Lv50 blaster.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: MaHaBone on December 03, 2012, 04:23:09 AM
As much as I'll miss the people, and I think I might miss the places even more.  Those moody shaded trails in Perez.  Moth Cemetery, esp the original version.  The Wolf's throat in Striga.  Portal Corp campus.  The walls of Cimerora.  Dirty alleyways in Kings.  The bridge in IP.  The eerie hay fields in Croatoa.  Those same streets and parking lots in Atlas I warmed up every single level 1 toon I ever had. 

All gone.

Its a strange thing to vivid memories of place that never really existed.  :-\
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: healix on December 03, 2012, 04:28:19 AM
just for you guys...Talos still guarding and onle last stroll on Spankey's Boardwalk
(https://i.imgur.com/chWNg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/odHL7.jpg)
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: FatherXmas on December 03, 2012, 06:39:59 AM
Remember way back (before CoV) when the Talos tram station was lag city because it was THE meeting place if you were level 20 or higher.

Talos had all the origin stores within a couple of super jumps from each other.  Access to Paragon Dance Party/Pocket D and later the ferry to PI and the smuggler's ship to Striga Island.  Back when the only way to Founders' Falls was through Talos.

It was Talos where I first ran into DE, BP, Warriors and the every popular Freakshow (cause you get to defeat them twice).  It was the zone where a lot of players got a taste of SOs for the very first time.  And while IP had Lusca (or three) Talos only had the Ghost Ship which kept getting stuck in one place or humorously stuck following a player who could then lead it all over the place.

(https://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f346/zombie_guy/City%20of%20Heroes/Motivational/Yield.jpg)
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: corvus1970 on December 03, 2012, 07:04:05 AM
Quote from: FatherXmas on December 03, 2012, 06:39:59 AM
...or humorously stuck following a player who could then lead it all over the place.
Wait, WHAT? :D :D :D
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: healix on December 03, 2012, 07:49:17 AM
LOL  I remember doing that. It sort of 'attached' itself if you got right in front/back of it.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: redgiant on December 03, 2012, 09:06:59 AM
And the very last remembrance image in the awesome Evangel's Memories (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hWfkHa4cBI) video, as he looks up at Atlas and then drives away at the end ...

(this is by a large margin the most emotional video for any game I have ever seen - go watch it if somehow you've missed it)

(https://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b586/redmondgiant/City%20of%20Heroes/TalosIsland.jpg)
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Lady Luck on December 03, 2012, 10:05:43 AM
Talos was also my favorite zone and I think I got to know it better than my own neighborhood.
My fave place was a rock out in the water by the tram where you could watch the sunsets.
And such convenience! Everything was so close together!
Except the Hero Analyst. She was stuck under Talos's statue out in the middle.
Even the best Rikti invasions were in this zone.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: eabrace on December 03, 2012, 05:12:31 PM
Quote from: corvus1970 on December 03, 2012, 07:04:05 AM
Wait, WHAT? :D :D :D
Early on, you could aggro the ghost ship and lead it around.  Hilarity ensued.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: corvus1970 on December 03, 2012, 05:15:01 PM
Maaaaaan I so wish I hadn't missed that!
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Glass Goblin on December 03, 2012, 05:25:38 PM
Quote from: eabrace on December 03, 2012, 05:12:31 PM
Early on, you could aggro the ghost ship and lead it around.  Hilarity ensued.

I never knew that, either. I just remember when an issue publish broke its pathing in Talos and it would sit for hours by the Dark Astoria door.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: corvus1970 on December 03, 2012, 05:28:09 PM
Now that I do recall, and it was pretty funny.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Gorgar on December 03, 2012, 06:09:16 PM
Talos was my favorite zone, too.  My main always kept "Minotaur" as her badge title.  Another of mine was really fond of the panther travel power, and if she wasn't doing anything useful, she'd do a lap or two around the main island, just because running and jumping was fun.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Shinobu on December 03, 2012, 06:53:33 PM
I remember watching someone drag the ghost ship all over the place.  ^_^  Kept me entertained for the better part of an hour.

My very first time in Talos was really scary.  I'd only been playing the game a couple of weeks, and I had a new empathy defender that I was playing who was about level 13, and I was invited to a team by a friend, and some of the people on the team were as high as level 20.  Powerful, godlike!  We ran some missions in Skyway, but then one of them had a mission in Talos.  I remember I was told not to wander off anywhere, that it was really dangerous for me, and I got ported to the entrance.  I just remember steep cliffs right at the edge of the road, and high level Tsoo down the street that could kill me instantly.  That was my first impression of the place.

I also remember hanging out in Talos and seeing a large ambush of Nemesis, all of these level 45 robots running about, I'd never seen anything like them, and one guy who came along and destroyed them all.  I was quite impressed by that too.  ^_^
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Glass Goblin on December 03, 2012, 06:57:49 PM
My first visit to the island was also funny. I went to visit my first contact there for the first time, and ran the couple of blocks to the building he was standing beside. (I can't remember who it was.) While I was standing there I was ambushed by a bunch of Tsoo and hit the sidewalk. Admittedly a bit peeved, I broadcast "What the hell, you can't even talk to contacts here without getting whacked?" To which someone drolly replied: "Welcome to Talos Island."
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: corvus1970 on December 03, 2012, 07:00:35 PM
HAH! So very, very true!  8)
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: FatherXmas on December 03, 2012, 07:40:00 PM
Quote from: mkhall on December 03, 2012, 06:57:49 PM
My first visit to the island was also funny. I went to visit my first contact there for the first time, and ran the couple of blocks to the building he was standing beside. (I can't remember who it was.) While I was standing there I was ambushed by a bunch of Tsoo and hit the sidewalk. Admittedly a bit peeved, I broadcast "What the hell, you can't even talk to contacts here without getting whacked?" To which someone drolly replied: "Welcome to Talos Island."
I'm betting it was the contact on the north side of the Science Store (Lt. Col. Hugh McDougal I think).  He always had Tsoo around within a spitting distance and it was nearly impossible to get up next to him without aggroing the nearest mob of them.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Alchemedic on December 03, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
When in doubt, I frequently parked toons in Talos. Everything was convenient -- the train station, Wentworth, the Ouro drop-point.

I moved a few of my characters around for the sunset, to where I wanted them to be for the end of the world. I had one toon (Profundis, a water-dark blaster) who was already in Talos for the above reason. Because I imagined him as an Atlantean (think Namor or Aquaman by way of HP Lovecraft), I figured I would retire him IN the water, so I took a few screenshots of him leaving Talos and returning to the depths.

I actually ended the game in Talos. My friends in our SG (Paragon City Search & Rescue) played to the end, and as the end came we retired to various "favorite spots." Some chose The Hollows; one friend was very close to Talos, so when she retired there to wait for the end, I joined her. (We were all linked via a league.) My housemate -- the reason I joined CoH -- was logged in and joined us. We ended up having to into the Talos train station at the last minute because of the Rikti invasion, but my last screenshot is a view of Talos from within the station.

I miss Talos Island.

I miss Paragon City.

I miss City of Heroes.

Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: eabrace on December 03, 2012, 11:38:59 PM
Quote from: Organica on December 03, 2012, 06:53:33 PM
I remember watching someone drag the ghost ship all over the place.  ^_^  Kept me entertained for the better part of an hour.
I remember it once getting stuck to me as I was exiting the train station (I think someone had left it there) and having it follow me to my contact and then to my mission door.  When I finished the mission, it was still waiting for me outside and started following me around again.

Gotta love those Taunt auras. :)
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: corvus1970 on December 03, 2012, 11:40:32 PM
It waited for you? Like a lil lost puppy??

D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!  :'(
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Arachnion on December 03, 2012, 11:58:02 PM
Quote from: Alchemedic on December 03, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
When in doubt, I frequently parked toons in Talos. Everything was convenient -- the train station, Wentworth, the Ouro drop-point.

I moved a few of my characters around for the sunset, to where I wanted them to be for the end of the world. I had one toon (Profundis, a water-dark blaster) who was already in Talos for the above reason. Because I imagined him as an Atlantean (think Namor or Aquaman by way of HP Lovecraft), I figured I would retire him IN the water, so I took a few screenshots of him leaving Talos and returning to the depths.

I actually ended the game in Talos. My friends in our SG (Paragon City Search & Rescue) played to the end, and as the end came we retired to various "favorite spots." Some chose The Hollows; one friend was very close to Talos, so when she retired there to wait for the end, I joined her. (We were all linked via a league.) My housemate -- the reason I joined CoH -- was logged in and joined us. We ended up having to into the Talos train station at the last minute because of the Rikti invasion, but my last screenshot is a view of Talos from within the station.

I miss Talos Island.

I miss Paragon City.

I miss City of Heroes.

:'(

We all do.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: corvus1970 on December 04, 2012, 12:07:15 AM
Quote from: Alchemedic on December 03, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
I miss City of Heroes.

Quote from: Arachnion on December 03, 2012, 11:58:02 PM
:'(

We all do.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.corvusonline.net%2Favs_and_icons%2FSoSayWeAll02.gif)
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: The Fifth Horseman on December 04, 2012, 12:15:17 AM
Amen. I just caught myself about to start up the client and run a few more Portal Corp missions.  :-\
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: eabrace on December 04, 2012, 12:22:12 AM
Quote from: corvus1970 on December 03, 2012, 11:40:32 PM
It waited for you? Like a lil lost puppy??

D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!  :'(
If I recall, I made some kind of comment in team chat like "Look what followed me home.  Can I keep it?" :)
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Arachnion on December 04, 2012, 12:28:44 AM
Quote from: The Fifth Horseman on December 04, 2012, 12:15:17 AM
Amen. I just caught myself about to start up the client and run a few more Portal Corp missions.  :-\

Every day I come online, I check the City of Heroes Forums out of habit, during my daily browsing list.

Seeing that sunset page come up every time.... hurts.

I really gotta drop that habit  :-\
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Illusionss on December 04, 2012, 04:45:06 PM
Quote from: Alchemedic on December 03, 2012, 07:57:31 PM
When in doubt, I frequently parked toons in Talos. Everything was convenient -- the train station, Wentworth, the Ouro drop-point.

I moved a few of my characters around for the sunset, to where I wanted them to be for the end of the world. I had one toon (Profundis, a water-dark blaster) who was already in Talos for the above reason. Because I imagined him as an Atlantean (think Namor or Aquaman by way of HP Lovecraft), I figured I would retire him IN the water, so I took a few screenshots of him leaving Talos and returning to the depths.

I actually ended the game in Talos. My friends in our SG (Paragon City Search & Rescue) played to the end, and as the end came we retired to various "favorite spots." Some chose The Hollows; one friend was very close to Talos, so when she retired there to wait for the end, I joined her. (We were all linked via a league.) My housemate -- the reason I joined CoH -- was logged in and joined us. We ended up having to into the Talos train station at the last minute because of the Rikti invasion, but my last screenshot is a view of Talos from within the station.

I miss Talos Island.

I miss Paragon City.

I miss City of Heroes.

I keep thinking along the lines of "I gotta go check on so-and-so's day-job badge progress.... might have to move them."

Then I remember that the sky fell on us all, and its a bummer all over again.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Clave Dark 5 on December 04, 2012, 05:53:28 PM
I miss all the Rogue Islands, myself.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Steelclaw on December 04, 2012, 06:23:32 PM
Miss Talos Island?

Luminary... definitely Luminary.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: johnrobey on December 05, 2012, 06:46:42 AM
Quote from: The Fifth Horseman on December 04, 2012, 12:15:17 AM
Amen. I just caught myself about to start up the client and run a few more Portal Corp missions.  :-\

That's been my fear, out of habit trying to log in.  Happilly I haven't, and yeah I know I can uninstall the client but don't want to.  I woke up again today from a dream with one of my blasters in his Ascension Radiance outfit flying thru darkened skies.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: faith.grins on December 05, 2012, 07:27:56 AM
Quote from: Clave_Dark_5 on December 04, 2012, 05:53:28 PM
I miss all the Rogue Islands, myself.
In some ways the Rogue Isles were better designed, and in many cases they were much more complex in layout, which is really cool for someone wandering through the game.  And in terms of having everything useful the players want to get to consolidated in one zone, Cap au Diable was superior to Talos, from crafting tables being right there next to the market, to the Vanguard entrance, to the Midnighter club.

Having said that, the hill by the tram in Talos is iconic in a way that nothing in Cap really was.  Cap had iconic stuff lying around, not least of which was the big globe in the middle by the trainers, but it's all a sort of manufactured iconography.  The hill in Talos had a natural elegance which you don't find anywhere in the Rogue Isles, save perhaps in some of the northern sections of Nerva Archipelago.  (Which reminds me:  I really wish they'd updated the mobs around the Thorns tree to a sort of Redside Monster Island.  It was so cool running around that place.)
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: Clave Dark 5 on December 05, 2012, 09:41:50 AM
Quote from: faith.grins on December 05, 2012, 07:27:56 AM
In some ways the Rogue Isles were better designed, and in many cases they were much more complex in layout, which is really cool for someone wandering through the game.  And in terms of having everything useful the players want to get to consolidated in one zone, Cap au Diable was superior to Talos, from crafting tables being right there next to the market, to the Vanguard entrance, to the Midnighter club.

Having said that, the hill by the tram in Talos is iconic in a way that nothing in Cap really was.  Cap had iconic stuff lying around, not least of which was the big globe in the middle by the trainers, but it's all a sort of manufactured iconography.  The hill in Talos had a natural elegance which you don't find anywhere in the Rogue Isles, save perhaps in some of the northern sections of Nerva Archipelago.  (Which reminds me:  I really wish they'd updated the mobs around the Thorns tree to a sort of Redside Monster Island.  It was so cool running around that place.)

The hill looked like a mound of soil to me.  Don't hit!!

I was quite fond of the natural areas on Cap, from the twin mountains themselves to the "Circle Of Thorns forest" above the ferry and even the do-I-really-have-to-swim-around-this-again mote around the center of town.  The Pit in Sharkhead was an impressively massive "manufactured" area that I enjoyed hopping or flying around.  And then there's the really nice area around the old fort on Port Oakes, always liked going through there at night and fighting pirates.

I always had the feeling that I was going to wish to be able to have "one last go round" before I left the game, but now the game has left me instead but I still want that last go.  Damn it.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: faith.grins on December 05, 2012, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: Clave_Dark_5 on December 05, 2012, 09:41:50 AM
The hill looked like a mound of soil to me.  Don't hit!!

I was quite fond of the natural areas on Cap, from the twin mountains themselves to the "Circle Of Thorns forest" above the ferry and even the do-I-really-have-to-swim-around-this-again mote around the center of town.  The Pit in Sharkhead was an impressively massive "manufactured" area that I enjoyed hopping or flying around.  And then there's the really nice area around the old fort on Port Oakes, always liked going through there at night and fighting pirates.

I always had the feeling that I was going to wish to be able to have "one last go round" before I left the game, but now the game has left me instead but I still want that last go.  Damn it.
I agree that all of that stuff was cool, and that's part of what I meant when I said that the Rogue Isles were better designed.  The ghost-infested fort in north Port Oakes looked both creepy and sad, somehow, and I deeply regret that I never collected all the ghost-catching badges.

Still, even though it was just a mound of dirt, the hill by the tram in Talos was a bit of nature that had been left as-is in the bustle of the city.  It provided a unique view:  shops, a train station, skyscrapers, and a view of the bay if you had good vision.  It captured a lot of distinct elements of the city, and it also happened to be near a heavy pedestrian traffic area, so it was also good for people watching.  In spite of all of that, it was still a quiet hill in the middle of a busy city.  The fact that it was small was what made it special.  That's what I meant when I said it was iconic in a way that nothing in Cap was:  not that it was more iconic, but that it captured a feeling that nothing in Cap does.  (There's reasons why nothing in Cap is intended to feel peaceful, both from a Lore perspective and from a design perspective, and they're good reasons.  I was just pointing out why the hill was cool.)
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: johnrobey on December 05, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
Quote from: FatherXmas on December 03, 2012, 06:39:59 AM
Remember way back (before CoV) when the Talos tram station was lag city because it was THE meeting place if you were level 20 or higher.

Talos had all the origin stores within a couple of super jumps from each other.  Access to Paragon Dance Party/Pocket D and later the ferry to PI and the smuggler's ship to Striga Island.  Back when the only way to Founders' Falls was through Talos.

It was Talos where I first ran into DE, BP, Warriors and the every popular Freakshow (cause you get to defeat them twice).  It was the zone where a lot of players got a taste of SOs for the very first time.  And while IP had Lusca (or three) Talos only had the Ghost Ship which kept getting stuck in one place or humorously stuck following a player who could then lead it all over the place.

(https://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f346/zombie_guy/City%20of%20Heroes/Motivational/Yield.jpg)

Bravo! I love your Ghost Ship poster!  ROFLMAO   ;D
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: FatherXmas on December 05, 2012, 10:52:44 AM
Thanks but not my poster.  I just remember seeing it a long time ago and Googled for it.
Title: Re: I Miss Talos Island
Post by: johnrobey on December 05, 2012, 10:55:56 AM
Thanks then to whomever created it and thank you for posting it here.  It made me laugh.   :)