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Started by Ironwolf, March 06, 2014, 03:01:32 PM

Sugoi

Quote from: blacksly on October 27, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
You have to squint your eyes in a very particular manner.

And in order to view all 10 dimensions at once, would you need to get a pair of Quadfocals?

Sugoi

Given the 1/2 hour realtime designation of a day/night cycle in CoH, then Real Time to CoH time was a ratio of 1:48...

So the 8 years, 7 months (and 2 Days) of real time duration the game lasted actually took place during 408 years of CoH history.  Well, I did mention that my main had a daughter later in her career who followed in her mother's leotarded footsteps... 

And just think, the end of next month will be 3 years Real Time for the servers being shut down.  What would Paragon City be like after 144 years of no heroes in town?  Sounds like a prime target for a MegaVillain Beatdown by the New Heroes in Town!

Thunder Glove

Quote from: Ironwolf on October 27, 2014, 07:06:58 PM
It is a hard thing for some people to understand why close a profitable game making $10 million a year gross - When you then look at the rest of the companies offerings and see they were making far more than that and CoH was a distant last place.

You had a merger of Nexon a multi-billion dollar company coming along and NCSoft to make their portfolio look better canned CoH and most of their Western titles to prepare for the merger. It truly was a realignment of their business to a mostly Asian market over being spread across the world.

It wasn't personal, it wasn't meant as punishment - it was flatout business. A few people in the first deal caused some hard feelings and that's why that was axed. The company in general just sees it as property. If you can provide a valid use for the property at a price they like - they will talk to you as Nate has demonstrated.

I still think there was something more to it, especially since, as I recall, some of their other properties (particularly Aion and Lineage) were bringing in more gross, but actually losing money overall and completely failing to meet expectations - but those games are still running.

And I'm still angry, because even if this deal works out, the game will never be back the way it was (and by "the way it was" I also mean "with a major update every few months" - Wind Control and Bio Armor and the Blaster changes and the new origin-based Power Pools and the other four Incarnate slots and all the other things we'd have by now if the game hadn't stopped development more than two years ago).  It will be a shell of its former self.

It sure feels like punishment to me.

Sugoi

The number of alts I'll create when we get the game back will depend on the number of slots we get per server, as well as the number of servers that will be made available.

In the original game I created about 30 different characters, who all had clones on every server, to serve as nameholders until I could get around to running them... I had my retirement plans all made when I got the news that the world was coming to an undeserved end....

I had about another dozen or so one-shot characters that I hadn't bothered to clone to different servers (mainly due to the limited number of slots available at the time.)

Sinistar

Quote from: Teikiatsu on October 27, 2014, 05:48:49 PM
Right now I have 8 planned for me, at least 3 for my wife's account I will also set up, and depending on the cost of accounts I have a few planned for my son too - either on mom's account or his own.

I have approximately 12 planned for recreation when the game is back up.  Any more then that depends on account costs, time, and also things like "can our characters be transferred to the Unreal 4 version of CoH, or is it yet another clean start?"

In fearful COH-less days
In Raging COH-less nights
With Strong Hearts Full, we shall UNITE!
When all seems lost in the effort to bring CoH back to life,
Look to Cyberspace, where HOPE burns bright!

Power Gamer

I have about 30 or so planned for the reopening.
It takes a village to raise a child. And it takes a villain to explain the value of lunch money.

-Random CoHer: "Why does the sky turn green during Rikti invasions?"
-Me:"Rikti Monkey farts"
-Random CoHer: "I'm going to you for all my questions from now on!"

Sinistar

Quote from: Thunder Glove on October 27, 2014, 08:42:20 PM
I still think there was something more to it, especially since, as I recall, some of their other properties (particularly Aion and Lineage) were bringing in more gross, but actually losing money overall and completely failing to meet expectations - but those games are still running.

And I'm still angry, because even if this deal works out, the game will never be back the way it was (and by "the way it was" I also mean "with a major update every few months" - Wind Control and Bio Armor and the Blaster changes and the new origin-based Power Pools and the other four Incarnate slots and all the other things we'd have by now if the game hadn't stopped development more than two years ago).  It will be a shell of its former self.

It sure feels like punishment to me.

This is why in other posts of mine I have suggested that IF this is a complete sell off of the game and the only thing of NCSoft we see is their logo on the launch screen, then that must be made crystall clear to all players. There are way too many of us with a very jaundiced view of NCSoft. 

If NCSoft retains any role in the relaunch of CoH then it will need to be made crystall clear to all players just how much say in the game's life that NCSoft will have.

As to no more updates, well that will depend on how fast the game is converted to U4 and tested (I volunteer for testing duties), and also if they have access to any notes or plans left behind by the former staff, or perhaps some of the former staff may give advice or ideas to the new staff.
In fearful COH-less days
In Raging COH-less nights
With Strong Hearts Full, we shall UNITE!
When all seems lost in the effort to bring CoH back to life,
Look to Cyberspace, where HOPE burns bright!

JennSpace

Right now I only plan to remake Jenn Space but I'm not closing the door on making any alt, I'll see.  :)

As for NCSoft punishing us, well, that's life! :P Sometimes, you can't always get what you want and some other times, things are unfair but that's the way it is and you gotta move on.

In retrospect, I'm glad I was able to play City for so long and I hold no resentment toward NCSoft, that's just not worth it. I'm moving forward, looking completly ahead and when CoH comes back, I'll be ready to return fight crime! ;)
Missed in action in the Rikti War Zone, almost 2 years ago.

LaughingAlex

My plan is remaking Cascavicka Ravicka and Void Spectre.  I do not have any plans for other characters, but I might make a water/storm character, mostly to illustrate some points about alternative play styles.
Currently; Not doing any streaming, found myself with less time available recently.  Still playing starbound periodically, though I am thinking of trying other games.  Don't tell me to play mmohtg's though please :).  Getting back into participating in VO and the successors again to.

dwturducken

Quote from: Power_Gamer on October 27, 2014, 08:53:48 PM
I have about 30 or so planned for the reopening.

Yeah, same here. I have a notebook that I jot ideas down in. I was hoping I wouldn't have more than a couple of pages ready for the reopening...
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

Power Gamer

Thing is I won't be running an SG/VG on virtually every server like I was b4 shut down.

I will be content to let someone else lead.
I'm willing to run TFs, raids and stuff just on day-to-day ops for SG/VG.

:roll:
It takes a village to raise a child. And it takes a villain to explain the value of lunch money.

-Random CoHer: "Why does the sky turn green during Rikti invasions?"
-Me:"Rikti Monkey farts"
-Random CoHer: "I'm going to you for all my questions from now on!"

Sinistar

Quote from: Power_Gamer on October 27, 2014, 11:09:44 PM
Thing is I won't be running an SG/VG on virtually every server like I was b4 shut down.

I will be content to let someone else lead.
I'm willing to run TFs, raids and stuff just on day-to-day ops for SG/VG.

:roll:

I wont be leading any SG/VG either, sometimes it just wasn't worth the hassle. 
I'll still see about building a base though.

Also given alignment changes and the Praetorian zones, it would have been nice to have a base that had teleporters to all the zones, blue, red and gold.
In fearful COH-less days
In Raging COH-less nights
With Strong Hearts Full, we shall UNITE!
When all seems lost in the effort to bring CoH back to life,
Look to Cyberspace, where HOPE burns bright!

Rejolt

Quote from: LaughingAlex on October 27, 2014, 09:52:51 PM
My plan is remaking Cascavicka Ravicka and Void Spectre.  I do not have any plans for other characters, but I might make a water/storm character, mostly to illustrate some points about alternative play styles.

It does beg the question: if you had all issue 23 power sets at COH launch, what would your main have been? My elec/nrg blaster main may become an elec/nrg Dom with two builds (elec epic for teams and force for soloing). My elec/elec brute may become an elec/shield with an elec shield costume piece.

I wonder if overall stats would be the same. If we start over would blasters, scrapers and defenders still be as popular? With no badges, slotting or loot... I'd have some hard choices to make.

And a street justice/energy stalker .... Maaaaybe
Rejolt Industries LLC is now a thing. Woo!

LaughingAlex

Quote from: Rejolt on October 28, 2014, 01:39:39 AM
It does beg the question: if you had all issue 23 power sets at COH launch, what would your main have been? My elec/nrg blaster main may become an elec/nrg Dom with two builds (elec epic for teams and force for soloing). My elec/elec brute may become an elec/shield with an elec shield costume piece.

I wonder if overall stats would be the same. If we start over would blasters, scrapers and defenders still be as popular? With no badges, slotting or loot... I'd have some hard choices to make.

And a street justice/energy stalker .... Maaaaybe

Fire/time manipulation corruptor or time/fire defender, probably.  Though Energy/time manipulation is also high up there(time/energy loses to much damage for me to want to play it as a main).  I can't say I had a main in CoX as I had just enough alts to say I might have had altitus but I didn't have any characters on any server other than virtue and did not have virtue filled.
Currently; Not doing any streaming, found myself with less time available recently.  Still playing starbound periodically, though I am thinking of trying other games.  Don't tell me to play mmohtg's though please :).  Getting back into participating in VO and the successors again to.

Sinistar

Quote from: Rejolt on October 28, 2014, 01:39:39 AM
It does beg the question: if you had all issue 23 power sets at COH launch, what would your main have been? My elec/nrg blaster main may become an elec/nrg Dom with two builds (elec epic for teams and force for soloing). My elec/elec brute may become an elec/shield with an elec shield costume piece.

I wonder if overall stats would be the same. If we start over would blasters, scrapers and defenders still be as popular? With no badges, slotting or loot... I'd have some hard choices to make.

And a street justice/energy stalker .... Maaaaybe

My original hero and villain toons will return as they were before.   My rad/rad corr would return as fire/rad.   A couple of other characters would be modified but for the most part my characters would just return from oblivion.......preferably with a nudge from the Sentinel files, but if not then so be it.
In fearful COH-less days
In Raging COH-less nights
With Strong Hearts Full, we shall UNITE!
When all seems lost in the effort to bring CoH back to life,
Look to Cyberspace, where HOPE burns bright!

Sinistar


Hm, also comes the question about badge hunting toons.  My original hero and villain were my badge hunters for blue and red side respectively then with alignment changing I kept switching them around as needed to get all badges on blue and red side then sent them into Praetoria to rip the place apart and easily obtain the badges from that world.

My main tank, PB and WS sought all the Master badges and all accolades.

Plus every alt was cycled every 21 days for the day jobs...man I hated those badges.
In fearful COH-less days
In Raging COH-less nights
With Strong Hearts Full, we shall UNITE!
When all seems lost in the effort to bring CoH back to life,
Look to Cyberspace, where HOPE burns bright!

Burnt Toast


Just a note: The end of next month will be TWO years that CoH has been shut down.. not 3.



Quote from: Sugoi on October 27, 2014, 08:39:15 PM
Given the 1/2 hour realtime designation of a day/night cycle in CoH, then Real Time to CoH time was a ratio of 1:48...

So the 8 years, 7 months (and 2 Days) of real time duration the game lasted actually took place during 408 years of CoH history.  Well, I did mention that my main had a daughter later in her career who followed in her mother's leotarded footsteps... 

And just think, the end of next month will be 3 years Real Time for the servers being shut down.  What would Paragon City be like after 144 years of no heroes in town?  Sounds like a prime target for a MegaVillain Beatdown by the New Heroes in Town!

Ankhammon

Quote from: Burnt Toast on October 28, 2014, 06:41:00 AM
Just a note: The end of next month will be TWO years that CoH has been shut down.. not 3.
Seems like 12... or yesterday.
Cogito, Ergo... eh?

Teikiatsu

Quote from: Rejolt on October 28, 2014, 01:39:39 AM
It does beg the question: if you had all issue 23 power sets at COH launch, what would your main have been? My elec/nrg blaster main may become an elec/nrg Dom with two builds (elec epic for teams and force for soloing). My elec/elec brute may become an elec/shield with an elec shield costume piece.

I wonder if overall stats would be the same. If we start over would blasters, scrapers and defenders still be as popular? With no badges, slotting or loot... I'd have some hard choices to make.

And a street justice/energy stalker .... Maaaaybe

My Ill/Rad would have been an Ill/Time or Ill/Dark.  My Dark/Elec defender would have been a Dark/Ice.

And soon-ish, they will be :)
Virtue Server - Main: Midnight Lightning Dark/Elec/Psi Defender

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfKUPgy_xH8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EitO6Wq_9A

Sugoi

Quote from: Burnt Toast on October 28, 2014, 06:41:00 AM
Just a note: The end of next month will be TWO years that CoH has been shut down.. not 3.

My mistake... just feels like forever to me... So for those road-block heads remaining in Paragon City, it's been 96 years since they've seen a Player Character Hero or Villain to interfere with.  Wonder if they miss us as much as we miss them? (and the Mysterians!)