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Harpospoke

Quote from: Nyx Nought Nothing on September 07, 2014, 06:44:03 PM
He's close enough to a nuclear detonation to have suffered a lethal dose of radiation unless the fridge was at least 1/2" lead (for no reason, there is no reason to make the compartment of a refrigerator with lead that thick barring storage of radioactive materials inside it), and really, who would make a 1,000+ lb fridge and put it in a wood frame house? And yes, the sort of impacts the fridge undergoes after being hurled hundreds of feet by a nuclear fireball would kill any flesh and blood human. Indy's previous escapes were for the most part highly improbable lucky breaks, not outright ignoring multiple laws of physics, both regular and nuclear. The decontamination/remediation procedure for Indy after that blast would've consisted of pouring his pulped and irradiated remains into a hazardous materials container and replacing it with a fresh Indy clone. (Which might be what really happened considering the aliens and everything else in that movie.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arib8uWMWsM
Yeah but...it's Indiana Jones!  8)  (Kinda like James Bond)   Illogical escape from death is a part of his DNA.

Arcana

Quote from: Nyx Nought Nothing on September 07, 2014, 06:44:03 PM
He's close enough to a nuclear detonation to have suffered a lethal dose of radiation unless the fridge was at least 1/2" lead (for no reason, there is no reason to make the compartment of a refrigerator with lead that thick barring storage of radioactive materials inside it), and really, who would make a 1,000+ lb fridge and put it in a wood frame house? And yes, the sort of impacts the fridge undergoes after being hurled hundreds of feet by a nuclear fireball would kill any flesh and blood human. Indy's previous escapes were for the most part highly improbable lucky breaks, not outright ignoring multiple laws of physics, both regular and nuclear. The decontamination/remediation procedure for Indy after that blast would've consisted of pouring his pulped and irradiated remains into a hazardous materials container and replacing it with a fresh Indy clone. (Which might be what really happened considering the aliens and everything else in that movie.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arib8uWMWsM

Although I've seen many people state this, even some scientists who did calculations for fun, I don't think anyone can assert with any level of certainty that Indiana would have been killed by the radiation from the blast.  Killed by blunt force trama, almost 100% certain**.  Killed by radiation?  Unclear.  There were survivors at Hiroshima and Nakasaki that were only a few hundred meters from ground zero, with less protection from radiation than Indiana had (inside a steel box, itself inside a wooden structure).


** Not 100% certain: people have survived circumstances similar in terms of acceleration and impact, albeit not without significant injuries.

Waffles

Quote from: Arcana on September 07, 2014, 07:41:49 PM
Although I've seen many people state this, even some scientists who did calculations for fun, I don't think anyone can assert with any level of certainty that Indiana would have been killed by the radiation from the blast.  Killed by blunt force trama, almost 100% certain**.  Killed by radiation?  Unclear.  There were survivors at Hiroshima and Nakasaki that were only a few hundred meters from ground zero, with less protection from radiation than Indiana had (inside a steel box, itself inside a wooden structure).


** Not 100% certain: people have survived circumstances similar in terms of acceleration and impact, albeit not without significant injuries.

Surviving the initial explosion won't save you from the fallout.

Trust me, the constitution of the individual won't matter.

Arcana

Quote from: Waffles on September 07, 2014, 07:43:29 PM
Surviving the initial explosion won't save you from the fallout.

Trust me, the constitution of the individual won't matter.

The same people that survived the Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts also survived the fallout from the detonation.  And even if Indiana Jones was injured by radiation effects due to fallout, its not necessarily the case they would have been severe enough to kill him or seriously sicken him on the spot.  He could have died ten years later from cancer, but Indiana Jones and the Last Round of Chemo was not an adventure we saw on the big screen.

LaughingAlex

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Quote from: Waffles on September 07, 2014, 07:43:29 PM
Surviving the initial explosion won't save you from the fallout.

Trust me, the constitution of the individual won't matter.

It really depends on the bomb.  Some nuclear bombs are designed to unleash more radiation, some are designed to release far less.  All of them release some radiation but it really depends on the overall make of the bomb.

Edit: Here are a few types of those bombs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon

The neutron bomb, and the salted bomb, detonate with a smaller blast radious relative to normal nuclear weaponry, however, they release far more radiation, they are made to kill people through the radiation alone.  Judging from the explosion, I'd say the bomb was probably a standard warhead in the film on a lower/smaller yield(judging from the cars position when it left only minutes before and the shockwave barely hitting it, and the fridge trajectory).  Such weapons were also in development.  The smallest of which was the davy Crocket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)

The weapon however, was impractical to use, the blast radius/accuracy was such the operator was more than likely to kill himself by radiation poisoning(the warhead used was especially prone to unleash a LOT of radiation).

Edits: Made a few corrections as I read over the later articles to double check some things.
Currently; Not doing any streaming, found myself with less time available recently.  Still playing starbound periodically, though I am thinking of trying other games.  Don't tell me to play mmohtg's though please :).  Getting back into participating in VO and the successors again to.

Optimus Dex

Quote from: hejtmane on September 07, 2014, 03:12:06 AM
Just sharing the childhood scars  ;D


I remember watching the Star Wars Holiday special- oh the pain. I convinced my wife or coerced her to watch it with me. I had to turn it off. Almost as painful as Shia Laboef in anything.

Minotaur

Quote from: mad skills on September 05, 2014, 04:39:30 AM
Disguise yourself as a janitor at City Hall, and when no one is looking, sweep the dirt under the rug! Oh, but wait, that will not be the actual city hall that you built, never mind. A much funnier thought if it had been the one that you built. Speaking of which, you should put rugs in City Hall if it doesn't already have them (it has been so long that I can't remember) so that the real NPC janitor can be lazy. Can I call dibs on naming the janitor?

Yeah, but you need the "jump into the filing cabinet" costume change animation.

Nyx Nought Nothing

Quote from: Arcana on September 07, 2014, 07:41:49 PM
Although I've seen many people state this, even some scientists who did calculations for fun, I don't think anyone can assert with any level of certainty that Indiana would have been killed by the radiation from the blast.  Killed by blunt force trama, almost 100% certain**.  Killed by radiation?  Unclear.  There were survivors at Hiroshima and Nakasaki that were only a few hundred meters from ground zero, with less protection from radiation than Indiana had (inside a steel box, itself inside a wooden structure).


** Not 100% certain: people have survived circumstances similar in terms of acceleration and impact, albeit not without significant injuries.
Quote from: Arcana on September 07, 2014, 07:50:13 PM
The same people that survived the Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts also survived the fallout from the detonation.  And even if Indiana Jones was injured by radiation effects due to fallout, its not necessarily the case they would have been severe enough to kill him or seriously sicken him on the spot.  He could have died ten years later from cancer, but Indiana Jones and the Last Round of Chemo was not an adventure we saw on the big screen.
Eh, okay, i'll buy that. For now.  :P Still, i agree that there's basically no way he would've survived the impact as it was shown without serious injuries even with the best luck in the world. Indiana Jones and the Chemotherapy of the Mayans would be the logical sequel set a few years after the movie. Or go with the Indy clone created using alien technology angle.
So far so good. Onward and upward!

Illusionss

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Quote from: Remaugen on September 07, 2014, 04:54:04 PM

If the expanded travel powers were offered only at higher levels then up and coming toons would still have to experience the adventures of traveling until they reached those higher levels. Really most players would probably not take them, preferring to save the slots for combat powers. I would probably take advantage of them though as I used to hate having to repetitively cross three different zones to get to a mission and then back!

Run across the zone to get to your contact.

Then run across two zones to get to the mish.

Then run back across the zones to go back to the contact.

Run across the zone to get to mish #2. Look for forks to stab into the back of my hand, 'cause I'd almost rather do that.

microc


GenericHero05

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Quote from: Illusionss on September 07, 2014, 10:08:03 PM
Run across the zone to get to your contact.

Then run across two zones to get to the mish.

Then run back across the zone to go back to the contact.

Run across the zone to get to mish #2. Look for forks to stab into the back of my hand, 'cause I'd almost rather do that.

For me, though, that was the fun of it.  Having to avoid all the evils that lie in between.  It was fun to have to earn everything.  I was glad, however, when they put a first aid station in the Hollows.  Hated ending up at the hospital in Atlas or Skyway which I'm sure I did about a billion times.
If I was a Jedi, there's a 100% chance that I'd use The Force inappropriately.

Tyger42

Quote from: Aggelakis on September 07, 2014, 03:36:03 AM
*air whooshes over your head*

Yeah. It was a joke.

He also maintains that there was only one Highlander movie and a few episodes of a television series.

Don't forget that Stargate was only ever a ( or three ) TV series. No movie ever preceded the series.

Tyger42

Quote from: Hellkat on September 07, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
Zardoz.

Yeah, but that was made specifically to rip on James Bond, as I recall.

Waffles

Quote from: LaughingAlex on September 07, 2014, 07:51:55 PM
It really depends on the bomb.  Some nuclear bombs are designed to unleash more radiation, some are designed to release far less.  All of them release some radiation but it really depends on the overall make of the bomb.

Edit: Here are a few types of those bombs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon

The neutron bomb, and the salted bomb, detonate with a smaller blast radious relative to normal nuclear weaponry, however, they release far more radiation, they are made to kill people through the radiation alone.  Judging from the explosion, I'd say the bomb was probably a standard warhead in the film on a lower/smaller yield(judging from the cars position when it left only minutes before and the shockwave barely hitting it, and the fridge trajectory).  Such weapons were also in development.  The smallest of which was the davy Crocket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)

The weapon however, was impractical to use, the blast radius/accuracy was such the operator was more than likely to kill himself by radiation poisoning(the warhead used was especially prone to unleash a LOT of radiation).

Edits: Made a few corrections as I read over the later articles to double check some things.

Let me rephrase that.


HARRISON FORD is not surviving a nuclear bomb's fallout.

Aggelakis

Quote from: Waffles on September 08, 2014, 02:24:34 AM
HARRISON FORD is not surviving a nuclear bomb's fallout.
Considering his age and grizzle factor, I wouldn't bet money against him...
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Goddangit

Quote from: Noyjitat on September 06, 2014, 07:25:52 PM
I know I'm probably a minority here and I usually don't like new age movies and shows. but I'm more worried about Episode 7 and beyond with it being directed by J.J Abrams... Why you say? Well just watch the new star trek movies and look at how pancakey they are compared to any of the television series or the old movies. Yep I'm probably also a minority there too...

You know, I really like some of the work JJ has done in TV, except he does seem to have a problem finding an end.  He's kind of like an old Greek playwright; writing himself into a corner until things are so convoluted that the deus ex machina (machine of the gods) has to descend from heaven and set everything right.

That said, I have absolutely no interest in the Star Trek franchise since he got his hands on it.  It needed no "re-boot".

Beltor

In case this was already mentioned, I apologize for being too lazy to read back through the dozens or hundreds of the past 3 days of post.
I23 had additions to the travel pools just before the shutdown announcement. Teleport had a 'teleport to another zone' power. It only affected the user. I can't remember the name though. Flight had a power called 'Afterburner'. It didn't actually boost flight speed but it did increase the cap. When used, you couldn't attack but you got a big defence boost as well. Super speed had a power that immediately recharged all non-pool powers. It had a 30 min recharge that couldn't be reduced. Can't remember it's name. Leaping had a targeted area attack that moved you to the clicked area and AOE blasted around you. I didn't use it and can't remember it's name either (i'm lousy at remembering names). More pool powers were on the beta server and planned for I24, I recall one for medical and fighting. May have been others being tested. The 4 in I23 we may still see. The ones in beta......

Waffles

Eh, I liked new Trek...Actually had acting in it.

Yeah, I went there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1eFdUSnaQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFGfWrJR5Ck

Come at me.

I like Trek, but let's not act like it was some perfection-pie on a perfection plate of perfe-

Looks at Wrath of Khan

With one exception.

mad skills

Quote from: Minotaur on September 07, 2014, 08:08:37 PM
Yeah, but you need the "jump into the filing cabinet" costume change animation.
Do current vet rewards allow such a costume change animation, or should I say future vet rewards? I mean, we can't just give that costume change animation to anyone.

FloatingFatMan

Quote from: mad skills on September 08, 2014, 05:23:39 AM
Do current vet rewards allow such a costume change animation, or should I say future vet rewards? I mean, we can't just give that costume change animation to anyone.

Only Hong Kong Phooey is allowed to do that!