New efforts!

[BadWolf]

Funniest ones I've seen by far were the ones asking TA defenders if they could heal (and I've seen at least a couple in Defiant and quite a few more in Freedom). I soooo hoped for devs to update that set with the fabled "Healing Arrow"  ;D

Battlechimp (who's usually the GM for our tabletop games) had an NPC with a "Staff of Healing". He applied it a bit more forcefully speaking than was strictly necessary for it to work, on the logic that what the heck, you're getting healed anyway. :)

[Acanous]

TA defenders with Aid Other were the bomb. Especially when they SAID it was "Healing Arrow" >.>

[sindyr]

TA defenders with Aid Other were the bomb. Especially when they SAID it was "Healing Arrow" >.>

ROFL!

[Luna Eclypse]

Its very powerful in the right hands and pretty awful in the wrong ones. Probably the best example of a powerset where differences of player skill are most apparent.

Very true and I played Storm Summoning more than any other Defender primary. The appeal for me was how some of the powers can be so situation-specific sometimes but they were situations where other Def Primaries couldn't pick up the slack which kind of lends a sense of ingenuity to the user when it's their time to shine.

Really, most of the time, you're keeping Steamy Mist up for the party buff and throwing out Snow Storm, Freezing Rain, and Lightning Storm from mob to mob.

Hurricane has that great To-Hit Debuff but it wasn't always ideal with the push back effect, especially in outdoor missions, it needs obstacles to stop the mobs from spreading out too much. Small corridors allow it be used for soft tanking, like the little alcove dead ends in office maps. More than once, I've done so when the Tank had their End/HP crash or was being rezzed. A lot of the time, they find it pretty cool and appreciate it. It's also cool to pair it with Resuscitate from the Medicine Pool, I did this to swoop in for quick rezzing of dead teammates.

Gale was good for momentary relief to make space or get extra mobs away from weaker teammates. Lots of people didn't like it, I always kept it. It's useful when you least expect it.

Tornado could be used to throw/fear/disorient mobs around if you needed to retreat and it was another extra -DEF debuff on EBs and AVs that couldn't be thrown around.

O2 Boost and Aid Other from the Medicine Pool could do a lot to keep a Scrapper or secondary Tank in the fight if the other support on the team are occupied with other tasks. Plus O2 Boost gave them stacking resistance to End Drain, Disorient, and Sleep. This is all after casting your main debuffs, of course, ya never let any jackwagon think this is all you're good for.

Thunder Clap I never really found useful for anything. Yeah, it stunned in a large area but it was hardly ever a game changer for me in a fight. Typically when you think you're about to need something like this, you're fighting something too strong for it to affect so it's pointless. I never take it.

Overall I think the sets one shortcoming is being most of a waste on single regular mods or smaller spawns. It shines against fully packed groups of baddies.

[Nyghtshade]

We don't need more mods.... We need more maturity. ;)

That should be on a T-shirt!

[Acanous]

Storm was not my favorite defender pool >.>
I main'd a Scrapper, and O2 boost was OK, but honestly between Cloak of Fear and Touch of Fear, I could keep a medium size mob mezzed all by myself, in ways that blasters appreciated. On a Mastermind, Storm was as damaging to me as it is to the enemies. Minions chase if you're not micromanaging, and sometimes they chase ANYWAY. Time spent on micro is time not spent on debuff.

Sonic, on the other hand, was probably my favorite. dear god you throw a Sonic defender in a team and just watch everything melt.
Therm/Cold were nice for that, too.

[Ouul]

Storm was not my favorite defender pool >.>
I main'd a Scrapper, and O2 boost was OK, but honestly between Cloak of Fear and Touch of Fear, I could keep a medium size mob mezzed all by myself, in ways that blasters appreciated. On a Mastermind, Storm was as damaging to me as it is to the enemies. Minions chase if you're not micromanaging, and sometimes they chase ANYWAY. Time spent on micro is time not spent on debuff.

Sonic, on the other hand, was probably my favorite. dear god you throw a Sonic defender in a team and just watch everything melt.
Therm/Cold were nice for that, too.

Conversely, any controller with an AoE immobilise with a -KB attribute turned Storm into easy mode. My main is Fire/Storm/Stone. So much potential knockback if controlled well, meant I didn't have to AoE immob. But as you'd remember, Acanous, Ouul's a beast :D

[Mistress Urd]

Storm was not my favorite defender pool >.>
I main'd a Scrapper, and O2 boost was OK, but honestly between Cloak of Fear and Touch of Fear, I could keep a medium size mob mezzed all by myself, in ways that blasters appreciated. On a Mastermind, Storm was as damaging to me as it is to the enemies. Minions chase if you're not micromanaging, and sometimes they chase ANYWAY. Time spent on micro is time not spent on debuff.

Sonic, on the other hand, was probably my favorite. dear god you throw a Sonic defender in a team and just watch everything melt.
Therm/Cold were nice for that, too.

Yeah sonic was very underrated. A tank commented, "oh a sonic! here is where you put the tutu on me?" I said "yep, here is the pink tutu" Gotta love being able to make powers whatever color you want. Of course I remember when sonic dispersion had aggro and everything on the board wanted to kill me. 

[Thirty-Seven]

Harpo, Devil, FFM, please just stop it already. Okay? Please?

Take the argument elsewhere. It is abundantly clear that NONE of you are going to let this go. And I know I'm not a mod, but Gods almighty I am really getting tired of this.

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

Putting on my Mod hat here, which I very rarely do to agree with this.

Seriously, you all need to stop.

[Cailyn Alaynn]

Putting on my Mod hat here, which I very rarely do to agree with this.

Seriously, you all need to stop.

I'm going to put on my...Not-a-mod hat? Er...Well...Anyways, I agree with Samuraiko as well.

Please, and Thank You.

[JaguarX]

I've never known the word "gimp" to be offensive unless you use it in a way that's deliberately a slur.  It's sort of like "gay"--if you're describing someone who is homosexual, I don't know anyone who finds it offensive, and if fact, it's the word most of them use to describe themselves.  If you're using it as a synonym for "stupid", such as in, "That movie was so gay..." (assuming you're not talking about a movie that is literally about gay people), then it is offensive.

I've always known it to just mean crippled, with no negative connotation.  I've actually heard people who are disabled say things like, "I have a gimp right leg because of the accident."  Looking at the Webster's Dictionary definition of the word, I don't see anything indicating that it's offensive.  The Wiktionary definition has one use of it marked derogatory, if it's used to mean "A name-calling word, generally for a person who is perceived to be inept, deficient or peculiar."  I can see why that would be considered offensive, but I don't think that means that the word used in other contexts is verboten.

Anyone who is physically disabled want to weigh in?

Depends on the person. Some dont bother them and as you said use it themselv.

"I havea gimped knee."


Others will and have taken great offense to being called a gimp or gimped or any other varient of the word.


It's one of those things it's best to get to know the person a bit more to know where they stand on the word.  Me personally I dont mind it as long as it's easy to pick up the context of it and they are not obviously trying to use it asa n insult.  To me it's kind of like tool. It's one thing to joke around with a good friend at a bar and call him a tool, or say "hey, hand me that tool while working in a shop" and some nutcase you never meant before come up and say "you're such a tool." Yeah, probably wont necessarily bash that guy's in but wont be looking upon him in a friendly manner. (which do happens quite often when in or affiliated with the military. Mindless tools and grunts that are there to do the gov's bidding no matter if it's right or wrong.)

[Von Krieger]

Likely what is meant by a "Snapshot of I24" is they have the server-side bit for running I24, they have the client side bit for running I24.

Character data, account data, market data, base data, all that sort of thing? More than likely stored in a different format in a completely different location to the core components for running CoH in and of itself.

IE put this thing on a server, put this other thing on a player's PC, and they can talk to each other and theoretically the game works.

Essentially it's the data TO RUN the game, not the data FROM the running game.

[artbunker]

Rikti Mothership Raids were a lot of fun. Early on, when everyone was doing them, I even ended up leading/forming a few teams with my villainous main, Great White Hunter, which was pretty cool. They died off for a bit (as most do, when the novelty wears off), but they were pretty regular things again by the end there, as I recall. At least I remember doing a lot more of them again and there seeming to be no shortage of participants. (As I'm recalling now, it was for the shard drops, I think. Or some other form of currency that you could get for Incarnate stuff- U'kon G'rai dropped a special form of currency, too, IIRC. It was actually kind of a clever way to renew interest in the raids, in any event.)

I also enjoyed the Rikti Invasions, but again, it really depended on level of participation. When you had a whole bunch of folks in-zone who were teaming, they could be a mess of fun. When it was just a few (or one) in-zone, as happened often on my beloved Redside, it wasn't a whole lot of fun, and could be hazardous to your health.  :gonk:

Over in Virtue, there was always Mothership Mondays. When Leagues formed and took on that thing. That in itself was a great PL opportunity

[Ohioknight]

Likely what is meant by a "Snapshot of I24" is they have the server-side bit for running I24, they have the client side bit for running I24.

Character data, account data, market data, base data, all that sort of thing? More than likely stored in a different format in a completely different location to the core components for running CoH in and of itself.

IE put this thing on a server, put this other thing on a player's PC, and they can talk to each other and theoretically the game works.

Essentially it's the data TO RUN the game, not the data FROM the running game.

Yeah, I thought Iron Wolf had previously said that all they had found so far was an I24 backup because it was about to go live -- so per Iron Wolf's idea that we can figure out sign-ins from that... it would suggest that all they have is the Beta environment data.

[BadWolf]

Depends on the person. Some dont bother them and as you said use it themselv.

"I havea gimped knee."


Others will and have taken great offense to being called a gimp or gimped or any other varient of the word.

This is true, but that's also true of a lot of racially-charged words (which I won't repeat here, for obvious reasons). Some people let that slide off or attempt to reclaim the word by using it in a positive manner, others get very upset. It's certainly emotionally-charged enough that as you said, I wouldn't use it around someone I didn't know well enough to know for certain how they'd reaction.

[Mistress Urd]

Very true and I played Storm Summoning more than any other Defender primary. The appeal for me was how some of the powers can be so situation-specific sometimes but they were situations where other Def Primaries couldn't pick up the slack which kind of lends a sense of ingenuity to the user when it's their time to shine.

Really, most of the time, you're keeping Steamy Mist up for the party buff and throwing out Snow Storm, Freezing Rain, and Lightning Storm from mob to mob.

Hurricane has that great To-Hit Debuff but it wasn't always ideal with the push back effect, especially in outdoor missions, it needs obstacles to stop the mobs from spreading out too much. Small corridors allow it be used for soft tanking, like the little alcove dead ends in office maps. More than once, I've done so when the Tank had their End/HP crash or was being rezzed. A lot of the time, they find it pretty cool and appreciate it. It's also cool to pair it with Resuscitate from the Medicine Pool, I did this to swoop in for quick rezzing of dead teammates.

Gale was good for momentary relief to make space or get extra mobs away from weaker teammates. Lots of people didn't like it, I always kept it. It's useful when you least expect it.

Tornado could be used to throw/fear/disorient mobs around if you needed to retreat and it was another extra -DEF debuff on EBs and AVs that couldn't be thrown around.

O2 Boost and Aid Other from the Medicine Pool could do a lot to keep a Scrapper or secondary Tank in the fight if the other support on the team are occupied with other tasks. Plus O2 Boost gave them stacking resistance to End Drain, Disorient, and Sleep. This is all after casting your main debuffs, of course, ya never let any jackwagon think this is all you're good for.

Thunder Clap I never really found useful for anything. Yeah, it stunned in a large area but it was hardly ever a game changer for me in a fight. Typically when you think you're about to need something like this, you're fighting something too strong for it to affect so it's pointless. I never take it.

Overall I think the sets one shortcoming is being most of a waste on single regular mods or smaller spawns. It shines against fully packed groups of baddies.

One thing I was really sad about was not getting more time to play nature affinity.

[Thunder Glove]

I came up with an idea for a hero while reading this thread... He / she is a sworn protector of another planet's prince, heir to the throne. Unfortunately, the prince has left for Earth, and disguised himself as another hero. So the protector, being bred for combat rather than subtlety, decides to just go around and ask every hero he / she sees if they're the prince: "ARE YOU HEEL ZOR??"

In broadcast, in all caps, all the time.

Right before I heard the shutdown announcement, I'd just finished making a Necro/Pain Mastermind, as a poke at people who ask for a "Healer".  ("Sure I'm a healer!  Don't these guys look healthy?" "BRAINS" "Atta boy!")

[Scendera]

Heheh...anyone take you up on it?

[Neutrio]

Over in Virtue, there was always Mothership Mondays. When Leagues formed and took on that thing. That in itself was a great PL opportunity

... sudden urge ... taking over ... to run ... a RMS raid ...


Towards the end, I loved leading and/or just running around in those :)

[blacksly]

The option of no character data is easy, and maybe desirable for those that weren't as loyal to the game as many of us were, but if the new team is seeking support from long time, and loyal subs(money), it's in their interest to make every effort to win them over. This game is old. You will not get many new subs even under I24. Being realistic, if they can't gain the backing of the former base they're screwed. People argue that the hybrid model was more successful, but that's in large part because the existing base dumped money into it! I'd like to see data on how many existing and former subs were making those transactions vs new accounts.

There is no game without the base! No game. Get it, got it, good.

I am really not so sure about that.

One of the main gripes about CoH was how little it was advertised and supported with regards to trying to gain new subscriptions. If it is run by a company that is actively spending money to draw attention, and given the increased current popularity of superhero movies, it is quite possible that a lot of new faces will at least try it.

As a side note, did NCSoft even notice that The Big Bang Theory mentioned CoH, and were they wise enough to talk to the producers/actors about a cross-platform advertising? Putting up TBBT posters in Paragon City in return for another mention or two on the show? Of course not. Or buy advertising around the release of The Avengers? Iron Man? Captain America? Etc?

I think that there are a lot of potential CoH customers out there that were just not exposed properly, or at all, to the game. And that means that it's quite possible to bring in a lot of new faces.