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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8740 on: August 13, 2014, 06:18:55 PM »
UPDATE

I did contact the team yesterday and got this reply back:

Things are moving along. We should have things worth showing fairly soon, made a great leap forward yesterday.

The thing is while it is quiet here - work is being done behind the scenes.

Excellent !  Many thanks.

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8741 on: August 13, 2014, 06:23:27 PM »
I know I remember a earlier post saying the image was in bad shape. I do not remember when he posted that, when he just posted that they have it running I was wondering if the image was repaired. :)

Except that he didn't post they have it running.

They [Paragon] were already running the game so competence was a no brainer. I don't know what the project does that this team is working on. It may be taking the original game and reverse engineeering it to get it running or some other display that NCSoft wants to see.

Emphasis and clarification mine. He is not directly involved and does not know what form of competence NCSoft wants to see. He's guessing wildly that it might have something to do with reverse engineering.

Even if it was, it would probably be something like taking a few art assets and doing something with them. I highly doubt that NCSoft would let a potential buyer touch a full image the software they're selling before the deal was complete. Too much risk of a copy of it walking off.

Ironwolf needs to learn to not mix factual updates with speculation if he wants to prevent the spread of misinformation. If it gets misconstrued here, just think of what it will look like by the time it reaches places like Facebook. :)

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8742 on: August 13, 2014, 06:40:03 PM »
That's cool to hear they are running the game, did they have to do a lot of repair on the image? It is ok if you can't answer this question it is enough for me to know they are running it.

That's not what Ironwolf said.  What he said was, " No other group outside of the first effort with the Paragon Studios has gotten this far.

They were already running the game so competence was a no brainer. "

He's talking about the Original Pitch when Paragon Studios tried to buy the game from NCSoft.  THEY were already running the game and as such competence was a no brainer for THAT team.

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8743 on: August 13, 2014, 06:44:45 PM »
That's not what Ironwolf said.  What he said was, " No other group outside of the first effort with the Paragon Studios has gotten this far.

They were already running the game so competence was a no brainer. "

He's talking about the Original Pitch when Paragon Studios tried to buy the game from NCSoft.  THEY were already running the game and as such competence was a no brainer for THAT team.
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8744 on: August 13, 2014, 06:46:36 PM »
Except that he didn't post they have it running.

Emphasis and clarification mine. He is not directly involved and does not know what form of competence NCSoft wants to see. He's guessing wildly that it might have something to do with reverse engineering.

Even if it was, it would probably be something like taking a few art assets and doing something with them. I highly doubt that NCSoft would let a potential buyer touch a full image the software they're selling before the deal was complete. Too much risk of a copy of it walking off.

Ironwolf needs to learn to not mix factual updates with speculation if he wants to prevent the spread of misinformation. If it gets misconstrued here, just think of what it will look like by the time it reaches places like Facebook. :)
It is not his fault, it is mine. I am letting my passion for the possible return of our home, cloud what I thought he said. :)
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8745 on: August 13, 2014, 06:49:54 PM »
UPDATE

I did contact the team yesterday and got this reply back:

Things are moving along. We should have things worth showing fairly soon, made a great leap forward yesterday.

So, we have official confirmation:

Dr. Sam Beckett and Al Calavicci are leading the COH revival effort!  ;D

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8746 on: August 13, 2014, 06:56:48 PM »
UPDATE
August 13 - Direct quote: Things are moving along. We should have things worth showing fairly soon, made a great leap forward yesterday.

this is great news!  I hope that one of the mods here can put the team in touch with the folks on the SCoRE team if there is any need for reverse engineering.  I don't know where they are with their efforts, but the Icon project shows that they have more than a passing interest and more than moderate skills for this kind of work.  It would be nice to see some of the folks who have worked so hard for this community find employment after all of the commitment and ingenuity they have displayed.

If they do put up a statue to commemorate the return of The City, I hope the Icon/SCoRE folks get a plaque!

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8747 on: August 13, 2014, 07:02:53 PM »
So, we have official confirmation:

Dr. Sam Beckett and Al Calavicci are leading the COH revival effort!  ;D

it is secretly being run by Darkwing Duck

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8748 on: August 13, 2014, 07:06:45 PM »
it is secretly being run by Darkwing Duck

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8749 on: August 13, 2014, 07:45:51 PM »
Except that he didn't post they have it running.

Emphasis and clarification mine. He is not directly involved and does not know what form of competence NCSoft wants to see. He's guessing wildly that it might have something to do with reverse engineering.

Even if it was, it would probably be something like taking a few art assets and doing something with them. I highly doubt that NCSoft would let a potential buyer touch a full image the software they're selling before the deal was complete. Too much risk of a copy of it walking off.

Ironwolf needs to learn to not mix factual updates with speculation if he wants to prevent the spread of misinformation. If it gets misconstrued here, just think of what it will look like by the time it reaches places like Facebook. :)

I have put the capital UPDATE in stuff that is actual news from the team. In my other post I was just trying to explain that working on something may not be what people think. It may not be hey, make this code do that - it might be different. It could be as you say animating some artwork or building a demo in UnReal4, it could be more than just programming. Technical expertise is such a general statement that only the team could explain what they were doing and I highly doubt they are free to do so.

I asked very general questions of what was going on so they could at least try and give the folks here something to hang their hats on. The breakthrough on the project is really good news. I try to point out I don't know what they are working on - but it could more than just programming.

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8750 on: August 13, 2014, 08:07:49 PM »
UPDATE

I did contact the team yesterday and got this reply back:

Things are moving along. We should have things worth showing fairly soon, made a great leap forward yesterday.

The thing is while it is quiet here - work is being done behind the scenes.

That things are still 'moving along' is GOOD NEWS.  And if they have things that are 'worth showing' to (presumably) NC Soft as part of the competence test then that is GOOD NEWS too.

It's still forward momentum.  It's progress. 

This seems pivotal in the potential deal succeeding.  So, hopefully we'll know one way or another after this 'competence' phase.

Thanks for the update.  I understand that the updates are in 'general' terms...but given potential NDAs it's understandable.

At least we have 'some' idea that things are moving along.

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I have put the capital UPDATE in stuff that is actual news from the team. In my other post I was just trying to explain that working on something may not be what people think. It may not be hey, make this code do that - it might be different. It could be as you say animating some artwork or building a demo in UnReal4, it could be more than just programming. Technical expertise is such a general statement that only the team could explain what they were doing and I highly doubt they are free to do so.

I asked very general questions of what was going on so they could at least try and give the folks here something to hang their hats on. The breakthrough on the project is really good news. I try to point out I don't know what they are working on - but it could more than just programming.

They've been assigned a project/competence test and the 'team' has made a breakthrough on that.  Fully understood.  It's 'cryptic' (*cough) but it's enough of a clue that we 'get' things are still making progress.

I can't wait for the day to role some Dominators, Tanks, Ice/Ice Blaster etc.  I wish the team every bit of luck in this endeavour.  Hopefully, they succeed...and our community succeeds in bringing CoH back to life.

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8751 on: August 13, 2014, 08:10:33 PM »
I have put the capital UPDATE in stuff that is actual news from the team. In my other post I was just trying to explain that working on something may not be what people think. It may not be hey, make this code do that - it might be different. It could be as you say animating some artwork or building a demo in UnReal4, it could be more than just programming. Technical expertise is such a general statement that only the team could explain what they were doing and I highly doubt they are free to do so.

I asked very general questions of what was going on so they could at least try and give the folks here something to hang their hats on. The breakthrough on the project is really good news. I try to point out I don't know what they are working on - but it could more than just programming.

Thank you for the update: Please pass to them that many of us are excited and appreciate their efforts!

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8752 on: August 13, 2014, 08:11:29 PM »
I asked very general questions of what was going on so they could at least try and give the folks here something to hang their hats on. The breakthrough on the project is really good news. I try to point out I don't know what they are working on - but it could more than just programming.

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8753 on: August 13, 2014, 09:17:42 PM »
... GM's for support. It might not be just a simple

Finally, we have a clue who the new developers are...

Giant Monsters are in support... Babbage? Lusca?

Who is behind this?
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8754 on: August 13, 2014, 09:34:19 PM »
Finally, we have a clue who the new developers are...

Giant Monsters are in support... Babbage? Lusca?

Who is behind this?

It's CoH - make a guess :P
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8755 on: August 13, 2014, 09:35:32 PM »
Finally, we have a clue who the new developers are...

Giant Monsters are in support... Babbage? Lusca?

Who is behind this?

Is there a badge for figuring out which one does what?



Thanks for the update Ironwolf!
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8756 on: August 13, 2014, 09:40:14 PM »
UPDATE

I did contact the team yesterday and got this reply back:

Things are moving along. We should have things worth showing fairly soon, made a great leap forward yesterday.

The thing is while it is quiet here - work is being done behind the scenes.

This is great news to hear, and I am looking forward to seeing what the things worth showing are. Thanks for the update, Ironwolf! :D

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8757 on: August 13, 2014, 09:50:50 PM »
UPDATE

I did contact the team yesterday and got this reply back:

Things are moving along. We should have things worth showing fairly soon, made a great leap forward yesterday.

The thing is while it is quiet here - work is being done behind the scenes.

This is a very good thing to see :).  Can't wait for the next update here.  Big leap forward means to me more things can be done, though thats speculation, might be unlocking another big key leap forward.
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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8758 on: August 13, 2014, 09:52:59 PM »
This is great news to hear, and I am looking forward to seeing what the things worth showing are. Thanks for the update, Ironwolf! :D

We may never see the "things worth showing". I'm okay with that.
We shall see what we shall see, when there is actually something to see.

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Re: New efforts!
« Reply #8759 on: August 13, 2014, 09:55:31 PM »
Finally, we have a clue who the new developers are...

Giant Monsters are in support... Babbage? Lusca?

Who is behind this?

Nemesis is always a safe guess.
But... if they have enough GMs to use them for support, them I'll put my money on Hamidon.