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Started by Ironwolf, March 06, 2014, 03:01:32 PM

bugzee

Quote from: Thunder Glove on October 24, 2017, 05:08:58 PM
There was some talk about a server simulator a few years ago (i.e., not the original CoH code, but something which the client would recognize as CoH code), but I don't know if anything ever developed on that front.

They stopped for a while because they got a cease and desist letter from NCSOFT. They recently started development again but the problem is they are only using issue 0. And they are a long way off from anything functional. You can walk around a bit in the city and then it starts crashing. They can't use newer versions due to encryption being a problem. I wouldn't put any hope into that one.

Surelle

Quote from: bugzee on October 28, 2017, 06:14:21 PM
They stopped for a while because they got a cease and desist letter from NCSOFT. They recently started development again but the problem is they are only using issue 0. And they are a long way off from anything functional. You can walk around a bit in the city and then it starts crashing. They can't use newer versions due to encryption being a problem. I wouldn't put any hope into that one.

Well, on the plus side, it's pre-ED!  :P

bugzee

Quote from: Surelle on October 29, 2017, 02:21:04 AM
Well, on the plus side, it's pre-ED!  :P

Yes! 6 slotted damage dumpster diving goodness :)

MegaWatt

i doubt they have it internally......i doubt they even give it a second thought except when people remind them about it some how. they've moved on and are probably just annoyed that we didnt move on with them. they expected us to move to other games they own not realizeing that.....well...we were loyal to the game and not the company.
If we set it on fire it'll burn....but that'd leave evidence...I KNOW ! COMPLETE ATOMIZATION! WOOOO!

Sinistar

Quote from: MegaWatt on October 29, 2017, 05:24:00 AM
i doubt they have it internally......i doubt they even give it a second thought except when people remind them about it some how. they've moved on and are probably just annoyed that we didnt move on with them. they expected us to move to other games they own not realizeing that.....well...we were loyal to the game and not the company.

Plus the other games they have stink.
In fearful COH-less days
In Raging COH-less nights
With Strong Hearts Full, we shall UNITE!
When all seems lost in the effort to bring CoH back to life,
Look to Cyberspace, where HOPE burns bright!

Tyger42

Quote from: MegaWatt on October 29, 2017, 05:24:00 AM
i doubt they have it internally......i doubt they even give it a second thought except when people remind them about it some how. they've moved on and are probably just annoyed that we didnt move on with them. they expected us to move to other games they own not realizeing that.....well...we were loyal to the game and not the company.

Well, I was loyal to a studio. Just not NCSoft as a whole. :p

Sinistar

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This.  Plus if enough people get the code and can set up their own emulation servers and the amount of them keeps growing, good luck shutting them all down.
In fearful COH-less days
In Raging COH-less nights
With Strong Hearts Full, we shall UNITE!
When all seems lost in the effort to bring CoH back to life,
Look to Cyberspace, where HOPE burns bright!

Codewalker

IMO the whole argument is a bit silly. I have not seen a single person say "I would totally code an emulator if only I weren't afraid of legal reprisal."

Biz

I would totally code an emulator if only I weren't afraid of legal reprisal














































































and had the time/resources/experience to do so.

Tahquitz

Quote from: Biz on October 31, 2017, 02:08:17 AM
...and had the time/resources/experience to do so.

Thanks for the honesty! :D
"Work is love made visible." -- Khalil Gibran

Vee

i lack the initiative to even claim i'd code one if i had the skills.

Brigadine


LateNights

Quote from: Codewalker on October 30, 2017, 03:21:06 PM
IMO the whole argument is a bit silly. I have not seen a single person say "I would totally code an emulator if only I weren't afraid of legal reprisal."

Reminds me of that time you posted a hypothetical question about a hypothetical game that was hypothetically able to run on an individual PC & also connect to multiple other users as a way to circumvent such legalities...hypothetically.

Codewalker

Quote from: LateNights on October 31, 2017, 01:11:20 PM
Reminds me of that time you posted a hypothetical question about a hypothetical game that was hypothetically able to run on an individual PC & also connect to multiple other users as a way to circumvent such legalities...hypothetically.

To clarify, that particular thought experiment was actually about a hypothetical design to protect the players from such threats. It was more about trying to design something that can't ever be shut down than fear of risk. COH players have already been through that pain once.

The developers of such a system would probably still be at risk, and the hypothetical situation assumed that they either didn't care or had taken countermeasures.

So while interesting, it isn't really relevant to the current discussion, which seems to be people randomly speculating about why someone else hasn't created something for them.

Keldian

Well, being that we don't have the server code, it wouldn't matter if it were a mess.  To emulate it, you'd have to start from scratch, basically seeing what the client sends and trying to figure out what needs to be sent in response.  It's still a monumental amount of work.

Codewalker

The client code being a mess can affect that, too.

Small example: I originally wanted to make the zombie 'trick' in Paragon Chat con hostile rather than friendly. I wasted probably a good 2 or 3 hours banging my head against the wall, trying to figure out why it would just vanish on the client whenever I set the bits that should cause it to show up with a red name.

Eventually gave up and left it friendly. Only after stepping away for a couple weeks do I finally think I know what might be causing it, but haven't done any real testing to confirm.

Tubbius

Happy Halloween, folks.  People should dress as their characters today.  :)

Granted, I cannot, as I must go get ready to work teaching English and cannot show up in a Santa suit. . . .

Fireheart

Tubbius could go to work dressed as Shakespeare and have the class read aloud/act A Midsummer Night's Dream.

That was a seriously memorable class/day for me!

Be Well!
Fireheart

Vee

Quote from: Fireheart on October 31, 2017, 03:22:32 PM
Tubbius could go to work dressed as Shakespeare and have the class read aloud/act A Midsummer Night's Dream.

That was a seriously memorable class/day for me!

Be Well!
Fireheart

Are you sure that was you and not a Saved by the Bell episode?

GamingGlen

Quote from: Tubbius on October 31, 2017, 02:27:19 PM
Happy Halloween, folks.  People should dress as their characters today.  :)

yeah.. about that....

My main character at the end was a female fox girl... yeah, if I dressed like that it would scare a lot of people and ... be an internet sensation!   muhahahahaha... hah