So where are your characters now?

[LaughingAlex]

It feels like almost every CO forum goer assumes a CoXer just wants CO to be CoX.  Which isn't true, but the number of people who say that, every thread I made untill the thread that turned into a flame war someone accused me of that.  Consequently, every thread I ended up in, I found myself a little more negative.  I just don't care anymore, they wanna show that kinda prejudice towards me based on the actions of those like golden girl, I ain't gonna worry about it.  Their game shuts down when it becomes a wow clone inevitably at this point, I won't even feel bad with the way I ended up getting battered into a negative tool.  In the end it's what they wanted of anyone trying to be constructive I feel, they don't want the game to improve, they want it to remain stagnant, and they just don't really care.

Edit: Thing is, I never had a chance to begin with.

[JaguarX]

It feels like almost every CO forum goer assumes a CoXer just wants CO to be CoX.  Which isn't true, but the number of people who say that, every thread I made untill the thread that turned into a flame war someone accused me of that.  Consequently, every thread I ended up in, I found myself a little more negative.  I just don't care anymore, they wanna show that kinda prejudice towards me based on the actions of those like golden girl, I ain't gonna worry about it.  Their game shuts down when it becomes a wow clone inevitably at this point, I won't even feel bad with the way I ended up getting battered into a negative tool.  In the end it's what they wanted of anyone trying to be constructive I feel, they don't want the game to improve, they want it to remain stagnant, and they just don't really care.

Edit: Thing is, I never had a chance to begin with.

yup it sucks. And this is what I been saying since I goactually started posting here way back in 2012. COXers were treating other COXers with the same disregard and wonder why they felt that way, as you feel about CO now, about COX. Many people never stood a chance. Even just counting the shutdown notice era. Someone tried to be realistic, they got hammered like you did and assumed they were being trolls because they came across someone who shove it in their face (although they were equally shoving their feelings down people's throats (positive or not)). If they wasnt for crying, hope  and grieving over a game and stuff they got assumed they were trolls and didnt care about COX, even though many been playing since beta. 

Prejudice is not good. And while many COXer seen no big deal about doing it to others that didnt agree with them or didnt cry or grieve to their standard, and some had mindset of hate ncsoft or else you are a "insert negative" insult, and anyone that didnt show anger to ncsoft was automatically put into that negative category, or was posting about hope all the time or tried to look at it rationally, got put into that negative category. Then some people got tired of it, and simply stopped caring, oh then did many of those hopefuls really turned up the the heat. Well, the thing is that type of stuff happens when one do not try to understand the other and assumes. Like they did you. And unfortunately, many COXers made many enemies over the years with their brash bashing "agree with me or you;re  a troll behavior" and telling anyone that complains about the prejudice that they deserve it. No one deserves it, even if they did it in the past to someone else.

Learning how it feels on the other side of how it felt when COX players were doing it to other COX players throughout the years I hoped it would be learned simply by calming down and trying to put themselves in the other person shoes. But it seemed many couldnt see the fault until they started to experience it themselves in other games first hand. And now they realize it's frustrating, make it hard to care about the game or community, and it's simply no fun. but it's extra sad you had to experience that in CO, which is generally I found to be friendly, as I dont remember you doing that to other people in COX.

But now, when people say they dotn care that COX shutdown or stuff, maybe now some understand how they came ot be that way. You aint the first COXer that I seen go through that and probably wotn be the last. First impressions seem to last and people sometimes prejudge wrongly. COXers are known outside this site and other supporting site, as overly opinionated, holier than thou, cant take any sort of critism that isnt praising them, whining, want every game to be exactly like COX, selfish bunch of players. Do some people of COX fit that description. Hell yeas. But majority of  people dont. Think about back in the day how people prejudged WoW community and even recently saying WoW community is nothing but a cesspool of trolls. It's like WoW here cant even be brought up without someone prejudging the entire 7-8 million people that is part of the WoW community. Isnt that doing the same thing you had to go through? Blanket judging due to a relative few's behaviors? Eventually it has to stop somewhere. We are heroes, why not start with us? especially since many COXers now know what it's like to be on the recieving end. Because if we here are not willing to stop it and keep prejudging andn ot giving people a chance and asumming, then we cant be getting mad when it happens to us in other games.

[Kaos Arcanna]

There is a lot I love about Champions Online. In fact, there's a lot I love more about it than I did COH ... things I would have loved to had in COH.

It's not a perfect game.

It's not COH, but then, it was never meant to be.

And little by little, we are seeing new things in CO ... costumes available in the C Store or Drifter Store instead of the lockboxes ... new vehicles ... even the occasional new mission or event.

It's a good game and it has an incredible capacity for character creation ...

I like Champions Online for similar-- but different-- reasons than I loved COH. (Teaming was much more fun in COH and I can't imagine that will change anytime soon.) Even if Valiance Online or City of Tiitans perfectly capture the COH experience (which they won't) I would still also continue to play CO.

[JaguarX]

There is a lot I love about Champions Online. In fact, there's a lot I love more about it than I did COH ... things I would have loved to had in COH.

It's not a perfect game.

It's not COH, but then, it was never meant to be.

And little by little, we are seeing new things in CO ... costumes available in the C Store or Drifter Store instead of the lockboxes ... new vehicles ... even the occasional new mission or event.

It's a good game and it has an incredible capacity for character creation ...

I like Champions Online for similar-- but different-- reasons than I loved COH. (Teaming was much more fun in COH and I can't imagine that will change anytime soon.) Even if Valiance Online or City of Tiitans perfectly capture the COH experience (which they won't) I would still also continue to play CO.

Indeed. I been out of the CO loop for a bit, but didn't add some Earth powers or something?

But teaming so far Been having a hell of a lot better experience with it. No over bearing people, no play my way ot get kicked, no one talking down to you because they don't approve of ya costume choice or power selection or because you are not playing how they would have played that set. And no constant bashing of other games like I experienced in COX that kind of dulled the teaming fun for me. Although I haven't been teaming as much in CO yet as much as I had over the years in COX so maybe I'm just extremely lucky so far to make up for the extremely unlucky of running into seemingly every single butthole on the  virtue server. More relaxed teaming in CO than COX. Too tense. Like people didn't know how to speak with each other or team without being snarky all the time or poking fun at each other or simple yelling at people or a combination of the three. "Ok so the blaster got separated and while trying to get away brought three rooms worth of mobs to us while fighting the AV and we wiped. No big deal, this is his third day playing, lay off of him."  But no, they just dig in more, going on and on and calling all types of names, some I didn't even know existed in the game world until then.


But those types are probably everywhere every game. Which is why CO kind of got the edge with me in enjoyment factor. There is not much team gated content besides alerts, which no one speaks anyways, and the rest I can solo. When I do team, usually the stray lair or something sometimes through references, sometimes random, and such and I think knowing that most characters can hold their own on their own kind of relaxes the settings instead of creating a tense "Heal me! you noob I died because of you! blah blah blah noob, WoW troll blah blah blah." Because then it end up tense not only for the target but also for me. Either I can say something or keep silent and silently condone that behavior like everyone else on the team. All the time I say something, Sometimes we both get kicked. Now what? On victory server that cold mean not even being able to complete the TF unless we deal with people like that. On Virtue, it could mean hopefully another set of people are interested in that TF at the time or else it may as well be like victory and forget about doing that TF or else deal with stuff like that.

CO, no worries, teaming is more for the fun of it, not great rewards, there are none to be had for teaming in CO really, we all probably can hold our own pretty well if mess hit the fan, and thus it becomes more like a social event more than a tense task of "either I put up with these butts or I probably wont get another opportunity to do this team gated TF for another 6 months."