Jack Emmert re: CoH - "Tell NCsoft to call me"

[dwturducken]

Unless, you know, trying to save a really awesome game with a great community is an indicator of a loss of sanity, in which case, SQUIRREL!

[Illusionss]

I don't think anyone here is losing their minds. No one is breaking out mids getting their next build for their main ready because the game will be back NEXT WEEK CAUSE JACK SAID SO.

I think it's a bit much to say people chasing a lead that could, maybe, probably won't but possibly get our game back are "losing their minds."

That perhap came off harsher than it was meant, and for that I apologize.

[Captain Electric]

I think it's a bit much to say people chasing a lead that could, maybe, probably won't but possibly get our game back are "losing their minds."

Well I think a lot of people will walk into this with their defenses up and their expectations low, and because they take a practical view of things, they might suggest we all do the same.

And then there are the nut bags who come in here all wide-eyed, who really ought to keep at least one foot on the ground. But no. They're going to wave their optimism and hope around everywhere like they have some kind of reality-bending device. Tsk! Yeah haha. Nerds!

*Slowly puts his Mids away...*  :-[

(Seriously though I haven't read a "wrong" post here yet. Calculated Iron-Men, Strategically minded Captain Americas, foolish open-hearted Spider-Men. Love you all.)

All heroes.

[Lightslinger]

That perhap came off harsher than it was meant, and for that I apologize.

No need for an apology, I know you meant no ill will.

However, I do want to keep this discussion on an even-keel. Basically, no, this is not a guaranteed sign our game is coming back. Also, this is not a fool's errand either.

What is Jack's comment ultimately? It's something. Which, as evidenced by the response, is very big for the CoH community right now and we're going to do our best to look into it.

[JaguarX]

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I think it's a bit much to say people chasing a lead that could, maybe, probably won't but possibly get our game back are "losing their minds."

Wait a sec. Didn't that how the entire movement started? Small chance but hope? On the old forum many expressed and seemed angry that people kept telling them they was nuts and it was a small chance. And yet now its here? Ironic.
Jack has bigger chance of working than many of the ideas that have been sought and pursued and supported.

[Aleksandros]

Nothing would make me happier than to see CoH return in this fashion.  I can guarantee 2 paid subscriptions (myself, and one for my now 7yo son who was heartbroken that the City closed before he ever got to play alongside me) for the foreseeable future, however they want it - monthly, quarterly, annually.

Sorry if this sounds like a desperate grasping at straws for any glimmer of hope, but that's where I am.  As much as I want to support TPP and HAV, the City is where I first believed that a man could fly.

[Ironwolf]

It is a LOT more than just one man saying call me.

The entire board at that Con said no way in hell should the City have been shut down.

Jack Emmert who had a PARTNERSHIP with NCSoft and shared game profits with then for several years - said I would like the game to be back call me please. I am not dizzy with joy but I do feel our movement and keeping the game in peoples faces has had an affect.

Don't be so jaded with life that you cannot recall John Carter's motto - WE STILL LIVE!

Life = hope no matter what.

[ObsidianPhoenix76]

Ok.  So I read the forum thread here...  Watched the video...

I really do not have a issue with Jack running CoH again if it does work out.  But I am kind of biased on this, as I met him when CoH came out and we had a good discussion over CoH, and I was really impressed with him at the time.  Also, as for the playerbase disregard he had.  He sent me a personal note when my daughter died, since he did remember her from when we met at Chicago WW.  Yes, he did have an ego and he wanted to do what he wanted.  I was a little peeved at his attitude at the time.  But...

People do change.  I tried CO, but it just does not work for me.  I tried STO when it was in beta.  Cryptic has done a wonderful job with STO.  I have the lifetime sub on that game, and it just keeps getting better in my opinion.

If somehow NC listens and Jack does pull off the deal, I would be fine with Cryptic back at the helm for CoX. 

[Lightslinger]

Summoning Ko...

...would it be possible to make a City of Heroes "relaunch" trailer, as it might be made if Cryptic was relaunching City of Heroes? It would certainly have a spoiler tag at the beginning or end saying "This isn't happening but could be. MAKE IT HAPPEN NCSOFT!"

Something like that going viral could help out a lot  ;D

[JaguarX]

Ok.  So I read the forum thread here...  Watched the video...

I really do not have a issue with Jack running CoH again if it does work out.  But I am kind of biased on this, as I met him when CoH came out and we had a good discussion over CoH, and I was really impressed with him at the time.  Also, as for the playerbase disregard he had.  He sent me a personal note when my daughter died, since he did remember her from when we met at Chicago WW.  Yes, he did have an ego and he wanted to do what he wanted.  I was a little peeved at his attitude at the time.  But...

People do change.  I tried CO, but it just does not work for me.  I tried STO when it was in beta.  Cryptic has done a wonderful job with STO.  I have the lifetime sub on that game, and it just keeps getting better in my opinion.

If somehow NC listens and Jack does pull off the deal, I would be fine with Cryptic back at the helm for CoX.

Cool stuff.


Yeah most people that I met that was the head of something had egos some inflated with hot air. But I suppose that is how they got to where they are. Then again I know people with nothing with big egos. Some it crosses yhe line into a great feeling of self-entitlement. I see this often with military spouses.  I gather an ego us one if those normal things that humans have. (Not really talking about the psychology definition where it gets into ego/id thing.)

[blacksly]

Except that enhancements are actually powers (of Type=BOOST instead of AUTO or CLICK or TOGGLE or whatever)...

From a game designer's viewpoint, a POWER and the ENHANCEMENTS to powers are not the same thing.

[TonyV]

Honestly I'm kinda confused why people are so excited from this :(
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But does it seem likely?
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I think getting so excited about a 1% chance is unhealthy.

I think everyone here is pretty realistic about the chances of anything coming of it.  I'm seeing excitement, but not really undue excitement; certainly no one claiming that this is anything close to a certainty to happen.

To me, I think it speaks volumes that not just Jack, but several people within the industry, some with no connection at all to City of Heroes, openly acknowledged that there was no reason City of Heroes shouldn't be up and running.  It also speaks volumes to me that the CEO of a development studio expressed willingness, even if in an offhand manner, to take over running the game.

But most of all, I'd be lying if I said that it doesn't irritate me yet again that NCsoft laid their "exhausted all options including the selling of the studio and the rights to the City of Heroes intellectual property" line and their "we were unsuccessful in finding a suitable partner that we thought would support City of Heroes' fans in a manner they were accustomed to" line.  So they exhausted all options...but didn't talk to Cryptic, apparently.  So they were unsuccessful in finding a suitable partner...and I suppose the developers who had run it for years and the guy from whose head most of the game came weren't suitable partners, I guess.  In short, NCsoft needs to get over themselves already, sit down to some serious talks with some folks, and sell this property.

[jeangray]

Alright, finally felt decent enough to watch the video.  I think it's incredibly cool that entire panel stood up for COH.  Yeah, it may have been more self-serving in trying to prevent the same from happening to their games (okay-obviously Jack being the exception since COH is his baby in many ways).  Thanks for posting the link and my sincere thanks to the panel for sticking up for our game!

[Sugoi]

Summoning Ko...

...would it be possible to make a City of Heroes "relaunch" trailer, as it might be made if Cryptic was relaunching City of Heroes? It would certainly have a spoiler tag at the beginning or end saying "This isn't happening but could be. MAKE IT HAPPEN NCSOFT!"

I could just see a trailer that starts with a gloved hand clawing it's way out of it's grave, ending with "Statesman Returns!"
Then a massive AP33 style group shot...  "And he's bringing his friends with him!"

Ah, that's what I get for watching Army of Darkness yesterday, and then running across the mini-poster someone made satirizing the movie... "States...Go Hunt!... Kill Skuls!"

Ok, so it may be a little crazy... but that was part of the draw of the game.   :D

At least I haven't broken out Mids to make new characters lately.. oh wait, I did.
While watching Wreck-It-Ralph with a friend of mine, he mentioned how much he loved the Spicette candies (especially the gigantic ones on the screen). Knowing how much he also loves Fusionette, I whipped together a Kin/Rad Def build for him to use in the future.
Name, of course was Spicenette.

Now I just have to figure out what donut would be best sprinkled with Spicettes for him....

[Cobra Man]

Summoning Ko...

...would it be possible to make a City of Heroes "relaunch" trailer, as it might be made if Cryptic was relaunching City of Heroes? It would certainly have a spoiler tag at the beginning or end saying "This isn't happening but could be. MAKE IT HAPPEN NCSOFT!"

Something like that going viral could help out a lot  ;D

+1

It would indeed be fun if went viral ......

[srmalloy]

Heh, looking at the Wikipedia entry for City of Heroes, I just had to laugh at this:
"Computer Gaming World hailed the game saying "City of Heroes blows a super powered gust of fresh air into an increasingly stale sword-and-sorcery MMO world" in August 2004."

Has the air in the MMO world gotten any fresher since then?  I don't think so.

Judging from the way the basic features that Blizzard pioneered in WoW have apparently become the standard for all MMOs, it seems as if it's become more of a Dutch oven.

[Samuraiko]

Summoning Ko...

...would it be possible to make a City of Heroes "relaunch" trailer, as it might be made if Cryptic was relaunching City of Heroes? It would certainly have a spoiler tag at the beginning or end saying "This isn't happening but could be. MAKE IT HAPPEN NCSOFT!"

Something like that going viral could help out a lot  ;D

With as many demofiles as I have, plus the I-24 functionality changes for demorecording... hmm...

EXTERIOR - ATLAS PARK, NIGHT

Several heroes stand with torches on the steps, patiently waiting. Others are seated in the lotus position (on the ground and in the air), while others are waving protest signs.

At the foot of the stairs are several of the Crey MIBs. A couple are holding blueprints, others are using tablets. The rest are talking to the heroes, and it looks like they are in the middle of a rather heated argument.

MALE CREY MIB:

"You don't understand. It's OVER. You and the others are required to depart.
Your leaders are gone. Your options are exhausted. NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE YOU."

For a second it looks like the bad guys have won. Then...

Several of the heroes look startled. Then a few start to laugh, while a large number of them begin cheering and applauding.

MALE CREY MIB:

*leaning forward and looking rather hostile*
"WHAT?"

Johanna, standing near the front of the crowd, points at something over the MIBs' shoulders.

The MIBs turn around.

A faint ghostly figure has appeared just above the fountain... then it becomes solid.

It's Statesman, floating there in true heroic pose.

STATESMAN:

"You were saying?"

FADE TO BLACK.

WHITE TEXT slowly appears over the black background.

It's not over yet.
#SAVECOH

Michelle
aka
Samuraiko/Dark_Respite

[Cobra Man]

^^^

A million times - Yes!!!

[Kistulot]

I'll acquiesce to people being more reasonable about it that I implied, looking at all of the posts at once might have colored my interpretation a scoshe.

[Captain Electric]

It's not over yet.

...Wow.

Neither are your masterpieces, apparently. Reading that gave me a bit of a chill--in a good way.

The only thing that could make it better would be if it then cut to Jack Emmert in person (real camera footage), talking about buying the game, explaining his and Cryptic's involvement/relation to it (for all those who came in later years), and personally welcoming CoH's fans to "come on back home".

Hey I can dream, right?