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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #220 on: April 26, 2013, 02:34:06 AM »
Heh, don't get me started on that. I don't think there's an Empath player out there who hasn't had a few thousand experiences where a player had to use Team chat to call for help because nobody noticed they were being held.

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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #221 on: April 26, 2013, 05:55:31 AM »
Part of the challenge of being an Empath was to keep up with Team mates.
It was easy to monitor everyone's healthbars but in the heat of Battle, Team mates tended to go off in separate directions. <-  ->

....I was hoping the next Issue would allow Empaths to heal around corners :roll:

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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #222 on: April 26, 2013, 06:16:54 AM »
Part of the challenge of being an Empath was to keep up with Team mates.
It was easy to monitor everyone's healthbars but in the heat of Battle, Team mates tended to go off in separate directions. <-  ->

....I was hoping the next Issue would allow Empaths to heal around corners :roll:

YES. The tendency for groups to behave like a pack of dogs in a park full of squirrels, prompted me to choose Superspeed for my Empath (to run around healing at 3 different locations in a matter of seconds). She also then ended up getting Recall Ally for the one idiot who always ran the wrong way and would be within an inch of death long before I could get to him.

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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #223 on: April 26, 2013, 01:28:47 PM »
She also then ended up getting Recall Ally for the one idiot who always ran the wrong way and would be within an inch of death long before I could get to him.
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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #224 on: April 26, 2013, 02:25:37 PM »
YES. The tendency for groups to behave like a pack of dogs in a park full of squirrels, prompted me to choose Superspeed for my Empath (to run around healing at 3 different locations in a matter of seconds). She also then ended up getting Recall Ally for the one idiot who always ran the wrong way and would be within an inch of death long before I could get to him.

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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #225 on: April 27, 2013, 01:16:26 AM »
YES. The tendency for groups to behave like a pack of dogs in a park full of squirrels, prompted me to choose Superspeed for my Empath (to run around healing at 3 different locations in a matter of seconds). She also then ended up getting Recall Ally for the one idiot who always ran the wrong way and would be within an inch of death long before I could get to him.

That's why I picked up Superspeed too to supplement my Fly.  And I trained for over half a year at the Hollows (when it was still very populated) by covering EVERYBODY in a 4 block radius around the Atlas Gate.  Setting the "Show Player Health Bars" to = Always really helped since I wasn't on anyone's team.  Having to visually keep track of several active street sweeping groups and/or soloists, and rushing back and forth between them was a pretty intense solo mini-game.  From that time on, I favored using Heal Other over the Aura for most situations.
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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #226 on: April 27, 2013, 02:21:33 AM »
I totally remember spending hours in the Hollows XD I hated Frostfire with a passion because my team couldn't kill him :(

so what constitutes as old timers? 6 yrs? I was playing for a mere 3 :D....which is why a piece of my soul died when the servers went down.

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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #227 on: April 27, 2013, 02:29:51 AM »
I totally remember spending hours in the Hollows XD I hated Frostfire with a passion because my team couldn't kill him :(

so what constitutes as old timers? 6 yrs? I was playing for a mere 3 :D....which is why a piece of my soul died when the servers went down.

I played for about 3. The amount of changes they implemented in the last 3 years however I think makes you worthy :)

And Frostfire was such a pain in the butt!! So tough to solo!
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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #228 on: April 27, 2013, 03:01:43 AM »
I can see you didn't play from the beginning as if you did you would have experienced the "We can't do this mission / TF unless we have a healer!" I have been on teams that would cancel doing a mission or TF if they could not find an empath.

It was much later in the games life that people finally realized that most of the defenders actually were more useful then an empath.

And the people begging for PL were bad but I hated people that got to level 50 without ever leaving Atlas Park. Then had no idea what the hell to do.

Of course this was for first time players, only because without real experience in the game 95% of the time they would be useless doing missions or TFs.

I even was on some TF's where an AE baby would quit to change toons thinking he can just come back to the team like in AE, and then get really upset when he finds he can't get back in to the TF.

I've played the game since pre-order beta.  I've NEVER been on a team where they wouldnt start without a healer.  Healing has never been a big need in this game, and this was fairly obvious from the beginning.  IMO, I'd rather have an extra troller or buffer/debuffer.
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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #229 on: April 27, 2013, 03:58:45 AM »
I can see you didn't play from the beginning as if you did you would have experienced the "We can't do this mission / TF unless we have a healer!" I have been on teams that would cancel doing a mission or TF if they could not find an empath.
i was on at least a couple TFs where the healing and medicine pool focused Empath quit because they felt that they had nothing to do and got miffed. As in actually stating that they felt there was nothing to do and promptly quitting the team. Which was true, but also totally their fault. Buff-focused Empaths were a blessing, but always far too rare.

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It was much later in the games life that people finally realized that most of the defenders actually were more useful then an empath.
i fell in with a bad crowd early on in the game (and read the forums), so i apparently came to that realization well before most other players. Playing a Bubbler around Issue 2 was positively broken. Random PuGger:"We need a healer." Me:"Uh, why?"
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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #230 on: April 27, 2013, 04:29:05 AM »
Tanks, Scrappers loved my Endurance Boost....others liked 'Clear Mind' during Rikti invasions. They were life savers.
I didn't always have to Heal people to be a relevant empath.

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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #231 on: April 27, 2013, 04:37:42 AM »
On the flip side, I was running a rad defender, when my team told me to quit "tossing around that green stuff, and concentrate on heals."  It was on Freedom, so I let it slide without any retort...


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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #232 on: April 27, 2013, 05:22:43 AM »
I've played the game since pre-order beta.  I've NEVER been on a team where they wouldnt start without a healer.  Healing has never been a big need in this game, and this was fairly obvious from the beginning.  IMO, I'd rather have an extra troller or buffer/debuffer.

It was probably the need for healers that made me roll one so soon. I've always been a community support sort of guy, I saw a huge need for them, so I rolled one and learned the ins and outs. And I must say there has NEVER been a game besides CoH where I so thoroughly enjoyed being a healer.

Those were amusing times. I couldn't have her logged on for more than five seconds before someone nabbed me.

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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #233 on: April 27, 2013, 03:16:38 PM »
I've played the game since pre-order beta.  I've NEVER been on a team where they wouldnt start without a healer.  Healing has never been a big need in this game, and this was fairly obvious from the beginning.  IMO, I'd rather have an extra troller or buffer/debuffer.

I guess you were just lucky or teamed with smart people. I had made 3 defenders that were not empathy and always had a hard time getting teams. Once I made an Illus / Empath controller - the invites poured in.


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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #234 on: April 27, 2013, 07:22:02 PM »
I guess you were just lucky or teamed with smart people. I had made 3 defenders that were not empathy and always had a hard time getting teams. Once I made an Illus / Empath controller - the invites poured in.

My only defender was a Kinetic/Sonic, and even if all I did was keep up speedboost (which was a priority yes, but hardly rhe only thing I did) people loved me to death. Aiming heals could be tricky given the way Kin's heal works, but even before leveling up enough to get everyone's favorite buff I was adored and invited onto teams when I was standing around in Talos trying to fix colors on my costume. It never felt quite right...

edit: or I was completely out of context! My heart was in the right place? I'm going to go hide in a corner...
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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #235 on: April 27, 2013, 09:14:35 PM »
I guess you were just lucky or teamed with smart people. I had made 3 defenders that were not empathy and always had a hard time getting teams. Once I made an Illus / Empath controller - the invites poured in.

That was just WoW brain-washing.
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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #236 on: April 27, 2013, 11:24:47 PM »
That was just WoW brain-washing.
My main defender was a Bubble/Rad, never had issues getting on teams. Although people laughed because his name includes the word "Doctor" and he lacked any heal-other.

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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #237 on: April 27, 2013, 11:46:11 PM »
I played for about 3. The amount of changes they implemented in the last 3 years however I think makes you worthy :)

And Frostfire was such a pain in the butt!! So tough to solo!

Frostfire was easy to solo (hint: maneuver what you kill to ensure you level up off another mob in his room then bury him under a hail of inspirations), I never failed to solo him on anything I tried using this method.

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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #238 on: April 27, 2013, 11:55:38 PM »
Frostfire was easy to solo (hint: maneuver what you kill to ensure you level up off another mob in his room then bury him under a hail of inspirations), I never failed to solo him on anything I tried using this method.

One didn't always get the Insp bonus at level up. 
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Re: For the old timers in the game: Remember when....
« Reply #239 on: April 28, 2013, 12:23:32 AM »
One didn't always get the Insp bonus at level up.

My issues always came with his imps and frost thingies, combined with his controlling powers. Sometimes if I leveled up mid battle I stillll had trouble :(

Then again I had a lot of blasters. Blasters died fast.
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