Facebook Superhero Game showing Ghost Widow art

[Candie Firestar]

I had to do a double-take when I saw this on Facebook tonight.  Is someone using CoX images without permission?

[TimtheEnchanter]

B&S has proven that NCsoft pimps. I'm sure they'd have no problem pimping the Widow.

[ArachnosCommander]

A lot of the Facebook "game" companies steal the artwork from popular games in order to trick people into visiting their site or downloading their Apps. This happened with Aion last year and the App maker was served a cease and desist for using Aion images to sell a completely different game.

I've purchased ad space on Facebook, in the past, and there is nothing to keep you from uploading any image you want. There is no question asked if you are the owner of the images you are submitting.

[Lucretia MacEvil]

Does using this pic for a different game count as false advertising?




.... sorry, I tried to avoid this, but....
..............................................................my inner nit-picker demands that I inform you that that is, in fact, a picture of Sister Airlia, Ghost Widow's Cimeroran counterpart.

[Candie Firestar]

my inner nit-picker demands that I inform you that that is, in fact, a picture of Sister Airlia, Ghost Widow's Cimeroran counterpart.

I knew that, but I couldn't remember her name.  So I just typed that it was Ghost Widow.

[Valjean]

That's too funny. I wonder if NCsoft will bother to do anything about it.

[General Idiot]

They've never cared about CoH before, why should they suddenly start caring now?

[Ceremonius]

They've never cared about CoH before, why should they suddenly start caring now?

Cause they could make money out of it?

[The Fifth Horseman]

Does using this pic for a different game count as false advertising?

Yes. And copyright infringement.
... unfortunately, it' still going to work on a lot of their customers victims. Look up "Evony" and despair, cause junk like that is positive evidence there are supervillains in the real world.

[General Idiot]

Cause they could make money out of it?

Again, they've never cared about CoH before... :p

[Ceremonius]

Again, they've never cared about CoH before... :p

Has really nothing to do with CoH. More of that someone uses something wich belongs to them. So they could start milking that cow. CoH is in this case just the major playball they won't care about, as long as it means they can sue someone cause he/she tries to milk their cow. Even if the cow is already dead. The meat can still be sold .

[Valjean]

I think if NCsoft doesn't go after IP violators, it just makes it easier for someone to snap up the IP later. For every IP violator they let go, it weakens their ownership legally.

[Septipheran]

Again, they've never cared about CoH before... :p

Off topic but I sort of feel compelled to comment on this. NCSoft did care about COH quite a bit, the game was never neglected while the servers were up. If you want to see a publisher who truly doesn't care about their games, look at what PW is doing to Champions Online (or isn't doing.) NCSoft was a jerk in the end, but while COH was still alive they dedicated a fantastic amount of resources to it in my opinion.

[pewlagon]

On this topic, same group is claiming City of Steam 2 is accepting beta applications. Funny, the First game isn't out of beat yet!

[Victoria Victrix]

Is it just the angle or is that Sister Arilia with a BnT body?  Those melons look a bit more extreme than I am used to seeing on CoH?

[TimtheEnchanter]

Is it just the angle or is that Sister Arilia with a BnT body?  Those melons look a bit more extreme than I am used to seeing on CoH?

Or someone decided it needed more advertising power and gave her a 2-minute PS job.

[Omega Force 1990]

Hard to tell with her arms crossed over her chest.

[The Fifth Horseman]

I think if NCsoft doesn't go after IP violators, it just makes it easier for someone to snap up the IP later. For every IP violator they let go, it weakens their ownership legally.

*BZZZT*
That's a negative. It weakens their ownership over the trademarks, the IP is always theirs.

[Codewalker]

Is it just the angle or is that Sister Arilia with a BnT body?  Those melons look a bit more extreme than I am used to seeing on CoH?

Those are her gloves.

[TimtheEnchanter]

That's a negative. It weakens their ownership over the trademarks, the IP is always theirs.

Apparently not, which is one of the reasons everyone is scared of 'bootlegging' CoH. They can't claim loss of money because they're not selling the product themselves. But if they don't frivolously pursue copyright infringers,  they supposedly risk losing their copyright. So in short, every business is forced to be a complete a-hole over "sharing", even if they don't want to be.

[JaguarX]

Is it just the angle or is that Sister Arilia with a BnT body?  Those melons look a bit more extreme than I am used to seeing on CoH?

looks the same way as it did in COX to me.

[Aggelakis]

Apparently not, which is one of the reasons everyone is scared of 'bootlegging' CoH. They can't claim loss of money because they're not selling the product themselves. But if they don't frivolously pursue copyright infringers,  they supposedly risk losing their copyright. So in short, every business is forced to be a complete a-hole over "sharing", even if they don't want to be.

You can't lose copyright except by letting it expire through time. It's trademarks that must be defended or lose its legality.

IP is copyrighted, not trademarked.

[Copper Cockroach]

WotC gets away with this, somehow:

[Thirty-Seven]

WotC gets away with this, somehow:

You can't own the IDEA of a girl with white skin and dark eyes.  Period.

[LadyWizard]

unfortunatly I did click on that ad just so I could see what was going on... all it was was basically a page listing free MMOs with the big one being the facebook app Avengers Alliance(yes it's a marvel app put out by disney's latest acquistion in that genre)

[JaguarX]

You can't own the IDEA of a girl with white skin and dark eyes.  Period.

yeah I agree and even if the idea could be owned, it would not have been COX to own it.

That idea of a pale girl with dark eyes is ancient. I'm not even sure personally who created it but it existed before Ghost Widow and met a few people even in the early 90s and as far back as late 80s of real life people looking pale with dark eyes. That is about as far back as my memory go as far as seeing it in person. Seen pictures of people of that style that went as far back as the 60s, and given that, according to some of the real people that I talked to that modeled their appearance on that idea, based it off a style of European Victorian ages. After some research, the pale with dark eye look was mentioned a few times in the books about Victorian fashion although it seemed to be more of niche fashion in those times but pale and dark eyes have been described in European literature that dated as far about witches and vampires that sported that look that dated back to the late 1700s and very early pre-victorian 1800s.

[TonyV]

You can't own the IDEA of a girl with white skin and dark eyes.  Period.

Still, that, with the dark clothing, the black lips, the long, flowing white hair, the eyes without irises or pupils...

There does come a point at which the combination of factors adds to to, "It's infringing."  I hate to say it, but looking at the picture, if I were on a jury, I'd say, "Yeah, that's infringing."

[TimtheEnchanter]

But when I look at that, I don't see GW.

[Aggelakis]

Still, that, with the dark clothing, the black lips, the long, flowing white hair, the eyes without irises or pupils...

There does come a point at which the combination of factors adds to to, "It's infringing."  I hate to say it, but looking at the picture, if I were on a jury, I'd say, "Yeah, that's infringing."

And I'd be on the jury saying "nope."

[FatherXmas]

The look is rather generic

[JaguarX]

The look is rather generic

yep.

I wouldnt be surprised if a GW look alike that predated COX by years pop up.

[Copper Cockroach]

I wouldnt be surprised if a GW look alike that predated COX by years pop up.

You mean like DC's Silver Banshee, dating back to the mid-80s?

[FatherXmas]

Temporal copyright infringement!?  It's a Nemesis plot I tell ya.

[TimtheEnchanter]

I was originally thinking that it was infringement because it might actually be a CoH screencap. Her breastplate would've given it away but its covered by her arms. Just realized she's missing the high-collar turtleneckish thingy though.

[Aggelakis]

I was originally thinking that it was infringement because it might actually be a CoH screencap. Her breastplate would've given it away but its covered by her arms. Just realized she's missing the high-collar turtleneckish thingy though.

It is a screenshot. Of Sister Airlia. She's not missing anything - that's exactly what Sister Airlia looks like.