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Started by Ammon, November 03, 2012, 11:51:29 AM

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Quote from: Victoria Victrix on November 15, 2012, 12:29:30 AMWe promise we'll keep you as updated as possible.  Meanwhile, as Rae said, continue the pressure.  Brian told me that NCSoft is definitely feeling the heat over this, it took them completely by surprise and they are very much not happy about it.
*reveals a wide, fang-filled grin*

This is the kind of news that makes this worth fighting for.

You'll have to excuse me.  I must go laugh maniacally about this.

Victoria Victrix

Quote from: Golden Girl on November 15, 2012, 12:32:11 AM
Can we repost this on the official CoH forums?

Yes you may.  I especially want people to know that at least 3/4 of the former Paragonites are not going to have to start living in their cars.
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dwturducken

I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

Victoria Victrix

Quote from: dwturducken on November 15, 2012, 12:48:17 AM
So, not a heist, then?  :(

If this were an action movie, I'd be in trouble.  Unless I was the old-lady decoy, who distracts the marks with her senile fumbling and partial-deafness.
I will go down with this ship.  I won't put my hands up in surrender.  There will be no white flag above my door.  I'm in love, and always will be.  Dido

Terwyn

Quote from: Victoria Victrix on November 15, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
If this were an action movie, I'd be in trouble.  Unless I was the old-lady decoy, who distracts the marks with her senile fumbling and partial-deafness.

Nah, you're the mastermind. :P
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Quote from: Victoria Victrix on November 15, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
If this were an action movie, I'd be in trouble.  Unless I was the old-lady decoy, who distracts the marks with her senile fumbling and partial-deafness.

That's known as the Yoda strategy ;)
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Quote from: Golden Girl on November 15, 2012, 12:57:37 AM
That's known as the Yoda strategy ;)

EH?  WHAT?  THIS IS THE EM CEE SLOTH BUILDING?  I DON'T WANT A RAPPER SLOTH!  I'M LOOKING FOR MY KITTEN!
I will go down with this ship.  I won't put my hands up in surrender.  There will be no white flag above my door.  I'm in love, and always will be.  Dido

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Quote from: Victoria Victrix on November 15, 2012, 01:00:13 AM
EH?  WHAT?  THIS IS THE EM CEE SLOTH BUILDING?  I DON'T WANT A RAPPER SLOTH!  I'M LOOKING FOR MY KITTEN!
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Decoy, yes, but it was way more in the vein of Kathy Bates in Fried Green Tomatoes. Only cooler. Like I said, my recollection is fuzzy, as it was a dream, but you were "the money," and the rest of us were your "assistants and lawyers."
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

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Quote from: Victoria Victrix on November 15, 2012, 01:00:13 AM
EH?  WHAT?  THIS IS THE EM CEE SLOTH BUILDING?  I DON'T WANT A RAPPER SLOTH!  I'M LOOKING FOR MY KITTEN!
This seriously made me laugh rather loudly!  ;D


It's been nice to have some good vibes around my limited CoH time lately. Regardless of the outcome, it has been great standing and fighting alongside all of you. I believe these bonds will continue, regardless.
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Quote from: Victoria Victrix on November 15, 2012, 12:29:30 AM
I had a long talk with Brian Clayton today, and he was encouraging.  He's going to fact-check us and be the go-to guy if it works.  I have to say I feel much better about trying this since he didn't immediately shoot it down, and in fact said essentially that any longshot is worth pursuing at the moment.

For those of you worried about the Paragon staff, they've managed to get jobs for about 60 of the 80.  However...Brian indicated that if CoH rises from the ashes, he should be able to get the core group together again. 

We promise we'll keep you as updated as possible.  Meanwhile, as Rae said, continue the pressure.  Brian told me that NCSoft is definitely feeling the heat over this, it took them completely by surprise and they are very much not happy about it.
If this works out, I'll never have been so happy to have two months of worth flushed down the toilet in my life!

Colette

"I had a long talk with Brian Clayton today...."

Just to clarify for everyone, here's the Paragon Wiki entry.

Brian Clayton is the General Manager of Paragon Studios and the Executive Producer of the "City of" franchise, which includes City of Heroes, City of Villain, City of Heroes: Going Rogue and City of Heroes: Freedom. Brian was the executive producer of the "City of" franchise with NCsoft since the game's inception, and became General Manager of the new NorCal studio once the "City of" IP was fully acquired by NCsoft in 2009.

"Brian told me that NCSoft is definitely feeling the heat over this, it took them completely by surprise and they are very much not happy about it."

Heh heh hehhhh....

However, if NCSoft simply feels obligated to shutdown before selling to another custodian, I feel a little bit guilty about injuring them as much as we have. (They may never live down "NCSoftcore."  ;D ) Granted, poor communication kills. They could have avoided this whole inbroglio had they been forthright with us.

Perhaps it is time to alter course.

Mister Bison

Quote from: Victoria Victrix on November 15, 2012, 12:29:30 AM
Brian told me that NCSoft is definitely feeling the heat over this, it took them completely by surprise and they are very much not happy about it.
This is so much my face right now (and I think many others)
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Yeeessss....

Victoria Victrix

Quote from: Colette on November 15, 2012, 06:53:50 AM

However, if NCSoft simply feels obligated to shutdown before selling to another custodian, I feel a little bit guilty about injuring them as much as we have. (They may never live down "NCSoftcore."  ;D ) Granted, poor communication kills. They could have avoided this whole inbroglio had they been forthright with us.

Perhaps it is time to alter course.

Oh by no means do NOT feel sorry for NCSoft.  And don't alter course.  Every bit of the grief they are getting, they have earned three times over.  It was an hour plus long talk...and I got an earful.

Keep up the pressure; remember that as NCSoft feels the heat, the asking price for City will drop further.
I will go down with this ship.  I won't put my hands up in surrender.  There will be no white flag above my door.  I'm in love, and always will be.  Dido

eviella

And over the past few days I've started to have hope again.  So I'll keep playing the game- I'm sure decent numbers the last few weeks will help keep any BUYERS interested- and keep doing anything I can, expecting updated orders Dec. 1.

My thanks to everybody once again, the community here matters a LOT to me even if I haven't had much to actually say.

Atlantea

Quote from: dwturducken on November 14, 2012, 01:47:03 PM
OK, I was going to make this a PM to VV, because saying, "Hey, [celebrity], I had a dream about you" is general a great way to end up on the express bus to Restraining Order Plaza, but I just find this one too hilarious.

I kid you not, I dreamed, last night, that the "super secret plan" was a heist, and you guys needed me to "crack" the security. It made complete sense, in-dream, and there was this complete, Ocean's 11 type plan that started with Mercedes having an appointment with NCSoft management as the "in" to get us in the building.

Apparently, my dreams are directed by Steven Soderberg. Anyway, I had to share it, because it had me sitting up laughing after I woke up. (Which weirded my wife out a little...)

Ooh ooh! Can I be the wheelman for the Bolo Stealth RV? :D

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Flails at the security goons with her Giant Purse.

HOOLIGANS!  RUFFIANS!  DOES YOUR MOTHER KNOW YOU BEAT UP HELPLESS OLD LADIES?
I will go down with this ship.  I won't put my hands up in surrender.  There will be no white flag above my door.  I'm in love, and always will be.  Dido

dwturducken

Quote from: Victoria Victrix on November 15, 2012, 09:47:44 AM
Keep up the pressure; remember that as NCSoft feels the heat, the asking price for City will drop further.

As much as I hate playing Devil's advocate, this seems counter-intuitive to me, based on my brief time as a car salesman.  So, bearing in mind that I wasn't a very good one, we were told that interest in the product weakened the buyer's negotiating position. Particularly if there is more than one interested party, NCSoftcore (I, for one, am never letting go of that one, even if they "redeem themselves.") may see an opportunity to, if nothing else, stick it to us.

Just because it was the bully's fault for spilling his drink on himself, he's still likely to blame us for bumping into him. (And, that is why I leave the writing to the professionals! ;))
I wouldn't use the word "replace," but there's no word for "take over for you and make everything better almost immediately," so we just say "replace."

Segev

Quote from: Victoria Victrix on November 15, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
If this were an action movie, I'd be in trouble.  Unless I was the old-lady decoy, who distracts the marks with her senile fumbling and partial-deafness.
Congratulations; I just pictured you as Mrs. Weston (the main character of Burn Notice's Mom).