Author Topic: Call to action(?): More missing Paragon Wiki information that needs to be saved!  (Read 21160 times)

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All right, a couple of more things missing from the Paragon Wiki, things that are critical given that the closure date might be September 30 (just 8 days from NOW!), and not November 30 (in two more months):


-The Shining Stars section needs to be added. I know it can be "ripped off your hard drive", but I and probably others don't know how to do that, but WE NEED TO RECORD THIS in case NCSoft doesn't!

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The 6th and 7th chapters of the Who Will Die? story arc are missing (the souvenir clues are there, but nothing else is) The contacts in question are Specialist Greer, Protector Z-958, and Infernia This is a very important part of CoH history, because chapter 6 includes the death of Sister Psyche.

In addition, more screenshots would be very nice: Statesman, who dies in chapter 5, has a series of screenshots showing his death scene. Sister Psyche's death scene, as well as Alexis Cole's death scene, are utterly without any kind of pictures. If we're going to respect our fallen heroes, shouldn't they at least get death scenes? :'(


The sequel arc, Pandora's Box, is also missing content. Contacts without missions and/or dialogues include Lastri Kayumanis, Antonio Nash, Lieutenant Harriman (Just parts of the mission briefing of parts four and five), Flashfire, and Socrates.


Let's get this info while we still can!

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-The Shining Stars section needs to be added. I know it can be "ripped off your hard drive", but I and probably others don't know how to do that, but WE NEED TO RECORD THIS in case NCSoft doesn't!
This?  Granted, the powers aren't listed, but I think Guy Perfect could do that in about a minute or so (and will still be able to grab that info even if he can't access the servers.)  He's just tied up with other efforts in the #SaveCOH campaign at the moment.  Given the ability to obtain this info without accessing the servers, I wouldn't put too high a priority on this.

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The 6th and 7th chapters of the Who Will Die? story arc are missing (the souvenir clues are there, but nothing else is)
That one I'll give you.  Normally I'd have probably grabbed this by now, but 6 months of mandatory OT is taking its toll on my ability to document things right now.

That being said, it's worth noting that even if other people only copy and paste all of the raw text from the missions (at least briefings, debriefings, notable NPC names, any NPC dialogue, clues, etc.), formatting all of it is the easy part for those of us who have been doing this for a while.

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In addition, more screenshots would be very nice: Statesman, who dies in chapter 5, has a series of screenshots showing his death scene. Sister Psyche's death scene, as well as Alexis Cole's death scene, are utterly without any kind of pictures. If we're going to respect our fallen heroes, shouldn't they at least get death scenes? :'(
I'm pretty sure I took several screenshots of both (same as I did for Statesman), but I forgot to upload them.  I'll see if I can find some time this weekend (after I get home from work) to get those uploaded.

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The sequel arc, Pandora's Box, is also missing content.
This too is true.  I haven't even had a chance to play through each of them on both sides, yet.
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Quite a few Alignment/Morality missions are still missing. The ones from Issue 18 have been documented to some extent on the official forum (spread over several threads, but they can be found by searching for the tips already known).

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This?  Granted, the powers aren't listed, but I think Guy Perfect could do that in about a minute or so (and will still be able to grab that info even if he can't access the servers.)  He's just tied up with other efforts in the #SaveCOH campaign at the moment.  Given the ability to obtain this info without accessing the servers, I wouldn't put too high a priority on this.

Also, the later arcs at the bottom of Twinshot's page.


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I'm pretty sure I took several screenshots of both (same as I did for Statesman), but I forgot to upload them.  I'll see if I can find some time this weekend (after I get home from work) to get those uploaded.

Great - I'm glad you have these. Put them up when you have time - what I'm doing here is trying to make sure we have as much of CoH archived as we can before the servers go down (because there will be a delay between our NC's servers going down and somebody else's coming up, even if Plan A succeeds as we all hope).


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This too is true.  I haven't even had a chance to play through each of [the Pandora's Box signature arcs] on both sides, yet.

OK, this is critical, then. Somebody needs to do this, and that somebody can't be me, because my characters are too low-level.


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Quite a few Alignment/Morality missions are still missing. The ones from Issue 18 have been documented to some extent on the official forum (spread over several threads, but they can be found by searching for the tips already known).

Yes, let's get these, too!



Thank you! :)


p.s. How can we rip dialogue, text, etc. off our drives?

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p.s. How can we rip dialogue, text, etc. off our drives?
At one time, if you could match Pstrings to the contacts, you could get some of it from the clientmessages file in the PIGGs.  Much of that text, however, was moved from client to server within (I think) the last year, so you can't anymore.

What you can do, however, is highlight the text in the game, copy, and paste it into a text document to later copy/paste all of it into the wiki, or just paste it directly into the wiki from the game.
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Hmm.  Nope.  I have a bunch of screenshots from those arcs, but not one of them shows the death of Ms Liberty or Sister Psyche.  I do have one from May last year when Freitag appeared in Atlas Park as the Jade Spider, though...
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Can we get those? Do you (or anybody else) have characters of appropriate level who can complete the arcs?


EDIT: I put this in the Save Paragon City page because it's apparent that we won't be able to keep CoH running (there will at the very least be a hiatus while the transfer between companies happens). So, I'm trying to ensure that we archive all that we can.

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given that the closure date might be September 30 (just 8 days from NOW!), and not November 30 (in two more months):

I haven't seen this information anywhere else and could not confirm this with anyone in-game today. Where did this shortened deadline date coming from? It got me to archieve all my characters tonight, but I'd like to know how worried I should be.

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I have 38 characters on my main account.  26 of them have access to those arcs (on either side.)

I just need to find time to run through them - like a week when I'm not working 65 hours.

I haven't seen this information anywhere else and could not confirm this with anyone in-game today. Where did this shortened deadline date coming from? It got me to archieve all my characters tonight, but I'd like to know how worried I should be.
Yeah, I haven't seen that, either.
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I haven't seen this information anywhere else and could not confirm this with anyone in-game today. Where did this shortened deadline date coming from? It got me to archieve all my characters tonight, but I'd like to know how worried I should be.


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One huge caution though: If NCSoft does get bought out, or heavily leveraged, it's highly possible City of Heroes will be shut down way earlier than the Nov 30th ending date - possibly as early as Sep 30th, since it's the end of the quarter.  So if we're aiming for an operations licensing deal, we're running out of time.

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NCsoft hasn't been bought out.
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NCsoft hasn't been bought out.

*Wipes brow*

Well that's a relief - that means we still have two months, nominally, unless something else changes.

Can we redirect anyone to playing these arcs to do it? I mean, you can't be the only player on the forum with characters in the right level range.

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I have several pages with missing info (mostly contacts with poorly documented arcs) noted - they key thing is getting time to run through them. If you see any arcs or pages with missing info, go run that content, take some pictures, and load it to your user page. That'll at least give people the chance to put it on the wiki even after the game servers go down.
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I started on Specialist Greer tonight.  Only had time for the first mission, though.  More when I get the time.
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Great - the more we can get up, the more we can save!

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Greer is all wrapped up.
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Thanks - if I had another ten levels on my character, I might be able to help with some of the Pandora's Box arcs...

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When Nov. 16 rolls around, I may find myself with a whole lot more free time to document whatever's left at that point.  (That's both good and bad.)
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Good and bad? I hope not too bad. :-\


By the way, I found another one: the Lord Recluse Task Force is missing some objectives.

Link here


Also, has anybody noticed that States is dead here... and that Psyche is not? :)

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Protector Z-958 is now complete.
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