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Started by Riff, September 18, 2012, 10:08:33 PM

Rae

Quote from: Atlantea on September 19, 2012, 08:29:07 AM

No. Just no. NCSoft will never get my money again. I don't care how shiny it is. How good it looks or plays. NO.


How could you trust them? I feel like I've been in an eight-year relationship with someone and came home to find out that they've moved out and taken all their stuff with them.

It'd be like them coming back and going 'babe, I made a mistake, I want you back!'

The trust would be all gone.

I'm sorry, NC Soft. It's not me, it's you. We need to make a clean break.
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Quote from: TimtheEnchanter on September 19, 2012, 06:02:16 AM
It would be possible, and I can already see how a modified version of Leandro's script for decorating a landscape with a mass of heroes would allow it to work. You could even get a much more uniform parade procession using such a script than you could possibly accomplish with a live recording.

Oh, come now. Leandro will take one look at that, and pull an all-nighter to randomize the movement speeds and directions and make it look more natural. (grin) But, yeah, I was thinking that you could simply paint the street and then assign everyone a walk command in the same direction Wouldn't be surprised at all if Leandro's already thought of something like this.

Segev

Hm. While I could not participate in a parade (I doubt Segev is still even an active character on whatever server I was on), if something as grand as a multi-server parade is recorded, it would be cool to have some official announcers commenting on it, Macy's Thanksgiving style, in the same manner that StarCraft game announcers comment on games.

StarRanger4

Quote from: Atlantea on September 19, 2012, 08:29:07 AM

Even EA?


blutnly, even after reading all the kurfluffle about Mass Effect 3 on our 'home forum' I still dont see how EA could be worse than what NC soft is doing.

But also yes, that scene is EXACTLY the sort of thing why I dont.

Olantern

I didn't find the information about refunds being offered disheartening at all.  We knew NCSoft was planning on shutting the game down, after all.  This shouldn't come as a surprise.  And this means that people are getting compensated for time they won't get to use, so that's good.

Anyway, CoH or its successor ought to shake the dust of NCSoft off its boots, to make the current mess less likely to happen again.

Golden Girl

The pressure needs to be kept up on NCSoft via all available channels - unless they and Paragon Studios have spent the past 2 weeks sitting across a tanle from each other just saying "sell it", "no", sell it", "no", then there's been some kind of movement.
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eabrace

Quote from: Golden Girl on September 19, 2012, 08:04:51 PMunless they and Paragon Studios have spent the past 2 weeks sitting across a tanle from each other just saying "sell it", "no", sell it", "no"
That scenario seems like it needs to be worked in as a running gag somewhere.

Of course, we all know the easiest way to settle that is for Paragon Studios to suddenly switch to "no" and let NCsoft reply with "sell it".  "Well, OK, if you say so!"

(I learned everything I need to know about negotiation from Bugs Bunny.)
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Rae

Quote from: eabrace on September 19, 2012, 08:09:03 PM

Of course, we all know the easiest way to settle that is for Paragon Studios to suddenly switch to "no" and let NCsoft reply with "sell it".  "Well, OK, if you say so!"

(I learned everything I need to know about negotiation from Bugs Bunny.)

Would that be legally binding, as well as awesome?
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Soundtrack

Quote from: rae on September 19, 2012, 08:11:43 PM
Would that be legally binding, as well as awesome?

Yes, the law firm of D. Duck and E. Fudd would be our counsel.

Segev

Quote from: Soundtrack on September 19, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
Yes, the law firm of D. Duck and E. Fudd would be our counsel.
As long as it's not B. Bunny himself. He is on record stating he never studied law.

Copper Cockroach

Quote from: rae on September 19, 2012, 08:11:43 PM
Would that be legally binding, as well as awesome?

It would probably be legally binding within the borders of Toontown. I guess we know where the new offices will be located.

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Technerdoc

All the developers posted her "thank-you-messages", Positron posted all the story lines they was planing and the message today also said to me; "That's it". Positron woudn't show all the cards he got in his hands when there is really any hope that the games goes on. Of course there is still hope, but well... it's hard to keep the head up right now...

Victoria Victrix

Quote from: Technerdoc on September 19, 2012, 09:05:37 PM
All the developers posted her "thank-you-messages", Positron posted all the story lines they was planing and the message today also said to me; "That's it". Positron woudn't show all the cards he got in his hands when there is really any hope that the games goes on. Of course there is still hope, but well... it's hard to keep the head up right now...

/em SMACKS YOU WITH A ROLLED-UP NEWSPAPER

Did it ever occur to you ONCE that Matt was doing this as a teaser-reel?
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Quote from: Victoria Victrix on September 19, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
/em SMACKS YOU WITH A ROLLED-UP NEWSPAPER

Did it ever occur to you ONCE that Matt was doing this as a teaser-reel?

That. But with less newspaper smacking. I'll leave that to VV. ;)
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eabrace

The reality of the situation is that whether or not they are able to wrest the IP away from NCsoft, people have bills to pay and can't wait to start looking for jobs.  There's no telling right now how long the game might or might not be down during a transition to new owners, and the longer it takes to make that transition, the more developers we'll end up losing.

We still might be able to retain some of the developers - even ones who have already said their goodbyes - but better that they say their goodbyes now while they still can rather than just fading away without being able to say anything once its too late.
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DrakeGrimm

Quote from: eabrace on September 19, 2012, 09:22:38 PM
The reality of the situation is that whether or not they are able to wrest the IP away from NCsoft, people have bills to pay and can't wait to start looking for jobs.  There's no telling right now how long the game might or might not be down during a transition to new owners, and the longer it takes to make that transition, the more developers we'll end up losing.

We still might be able to retain some of the developers - even ones who have already said their goodbyes - but better that they say their goodbyes now while they still can rather than just fading away without being able to say anything once its too late.

The reality of the situation, is that nothing will ever be 'as it was.' Things will change. Some of those changes will be for the better, some of them will not. We will weather the storm and carry on. After all...we are heroes. This is what we do. :)
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Technerdoc

Quote from: Victoria Victrix on September 19, 2012, 09:14:27 PM
/em SMACKS YOU WITH A ROLLED-UP NEWSPAPER

Did it ever occur to you ONCE that Matt was doing this as a teaser-reel?

I think that right now there is nothing in the line of sight for the Paragon Studios to keep the game running. No chance that they give us this teaser when there is anything going right now with other publishers and  "We cannot reiterate how tough it was to make the final decision to close this wonderful chapter in our history..." didn't sounds for me that they still have any plans right now so far. Maybe we will see the big surprise and Positron also said, that this story parts aren't final at all, but this must a really a miracle.

Victoria Victrix

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Quote from: Technerdoc on September 19, 2012, 09:31:12 PM
I think that right now there is nothing in the line of sight for the Paragon Studios to keep the game running. No chance that they give us this teaser when there is anything going right now with other publishers and  "We cannot reiterate how tough it was to make the final decision to close this wonderful chapter in our history..." didn't sounds for me that they still have any plans right now so far. Maybe we will see the big surprise and Positron also said, that this story parts aren't final at all, but this must a really a miracle.

Fine.  You go lie down and give up.  Pardon me if I use your prone, defeatist body as a stepping stone to the next level.

Honestly, we don't need dead weight or defeatist crap here.  Move along.
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