Hold Duration

[Mondobone]

I was comparing hold durations between different archetypes and noticed that the durations don't match up with the in game values.  Is that a bug on my end or is something else wrong?  Also, can I change that to match?  I noticed there was a database editor included in the program.

[eabrace]

You can change the values in your Mids database to what you think they should be, but there really is an issue and it isn't fixed by the Mids team before the next update, your changes will be wiped out with bad values again when you apply the next update.

A couple of things you may want to check before you make any changes to the database:

1)  Are you displaying PvE or PvP numbers in Mids?  Does this match the setting of the numbers you're displaying in-game?

2)  Are you displaying numbers in-game with enhancements applied, or are you looking at base numbers?  If you are looking at enhanced numbers, do the enhancements applied in Mids match exactly what you have slotted in-game?  If the numbers are base in-game, do you have any enhancements slotted in Mids?

[Mondobone]

As an example; looking at the stats for a level 1 Gravity Controller in game gives me a 15 second duration on Gravity Distortion.  If I clear Mids' and select just enough to get Gravity Distortion, so no enhancements or other buffs, it gives me a 22.4 second duration.  Those are both on the base magnitude, not the chance for an extra.  I am displaying PvE numbers in both sections, also.

[eabrace]

Ah.  That explains it.  Regardless of how far into your build you are, the numbers you see displayed in Mids are the numbers at level 50.  The base duration of Gravity Distortion's hold at level 50 is 22.35 seconds.

(Magnitude is a separate beast and doesn't change with level.)

[Mondobone]

Ah, well thanks then.  I didn't realize duration went up at all.

[eabrace]

Yeah, that can be confusing.  At low levels, the differences between modifier values between ATs are smaller, making many of them feel very similar as they are just starting out.  As the game progresses, differences in modifiers for things like hold/immobilize/fear/etc. duration, buff magnitudes, hit points, melee/ranged damage, etc become more pronounced.  This is primarily what gives - for example - a Tanker a different feel than a Brute or Scrapper.