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Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« on: December 19, 2009, 12:53:08 AM »
I was wondering about editing or replacing the map overlay in atlas.

Since the holiday season is here. And there is an overlay or image from paragonwiki

For Example. Is there a way to save the old atlas park overlay. and add this one to it?

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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 04:18:19 AM »
If you're up to it.

TonyV has an ancient walk-through on how to do it.

http://paragonforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=335
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2009, 04:42:03 AM »
HAHAHHAHAHAHHA

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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009, 05:14:20 AM »
Good to see you got it working. Did you have to use Tony's walkthrough?
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009, 06:25:28 AM »
Yes i did. Very easy.
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2009, 11:36:01 AM »
Wow, that's cool that you got it working!  I've actually thought about producing a map mod with the present locations on it, and I still might.  I'd really kind of want to nail down the exact coordinates, though, which would take me a while (and a lot of poring over demo files).  Maybe I'll at least collect the coordinates to have it ready next year.

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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2009, 03:49:32 PM »
Didn't we generate those maps using demo file data to begin with?

I guess a few presents might have been moved since then, but I bet the maps are still pretty accurate for the most part.
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2009, 05:26:16 PM »
Probably, but it doesn't have my patented (not really) AccuDot system.  ;)  That was the thing that I always felt set the Paragon Maps apart from VidiotMaps.  Some of the VidiotMaps maps, I would get to the location marker, look around, and still not see the badge/plaque I was looking for.  With Paragon Maps, if you're standing on that dot, it's about to reach up and bite you in the ass.

Not that the glowing wouldn't give it away, but still...

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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2009, 08:56:34 PM »
You dont have to find them...

http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Winter_Event/Presents

scroll down. thats what i used.
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2009, 09:12:50 PM »
Those are by GuyPerfect, and knowing him as little as I do... I'm pretty sure on the overall accuracy of his maps.
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2009, 09:47:27 PM »
I'm not saying they're not accurate; I'm sure they are.  I'm just saying that the red blob in the middle of the present is difficult to nail down to a specific location.

On the Paragon Maps maps, each location is indicated with a single white pixel, surrounded by black pixels (or for plaques, the exact opposite) so that there's no "hmm, I'm here, where's the [whatever]?  Maybe I'm not standing right in the middle.  Is it over here?..."

Keep in mind that on most of these maps, a single pixel is 10.3125 in-game feet.  A 3x3 pixel area covers almost 93 square feet, which makes it difficult to tell, for example, whether a present is next to a building or on its roof a hundred feet in the air.  That was my main problem with VidiotMaps--not that it wasn't accurate (though some of the markers were a bit off), but that once I got to the marker, I couldn't find what I was looking for because I couldn't really tell very well where the exact center of the marker is.

When I get home this afternoon, if I have time, I'll try putting together a map so that you can clearly see exactly what I'm talking about.  You'll say, "Wow, that is a lot easier to find!"  ;)
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2009, 09:55:29 PM »
LoL i ahve no problem finding them with that map. But thats cool too :D
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2009, 11:18:27 PM »
Badges are one thing. Presents stick out like sore thumbs. lol
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2009, 06:10:46 AM »
GuyPerfect made those presents maps with demo record info, IIRC. So they're as accurate as you're going to get, unless they've added/moved presents since they were made (entirely possible).
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2009, 11:23:52 AM »
GuyPerfect made those presents maps with demo record info, IIRC. So they're as accurate as you're going to get, unless they've added/moved presents since they were made (entirely possible).
Again, I'm not disputing the accuracy of the data on the maps, just the precision.

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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2009, 02:49:10 AM »
Well, crud, in shuffling stuff around and upgrading to Windows 7, I seem to have broken my old copy of PiggViewer, the one that can create image files, and the new copy I'm using to extract file doesn't create new files yet.  I'm also working on something else that I want to have a higher priority and I don't want to get distracted the hours (or days) it would take to get this working and some new maps created.

I have asked Belle to collect demorecord files of the presents for me to verify existing locations and see if there are any updated locations.  It will probably be after the holidays before I can get to it, but I'll try to have some maps ready before next year.  Sorry about that.  :(

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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2010, 11:40:23 PM »
Well to let you know the accuracy of the image i put up. The Center of the present that is the bow, that looks like a red dot, is the exact location. i checked them all that day. But if you still want to make your own. GL. But from what i ran through, the center of the present is the present location.
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2010, 04:06:23 AM »
Well tonyV's thread is gone because the website is gone. And i forgot where and how to replace the map... *Sadface*
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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2010, 05:49:06 AM »
Well tonyV's thread is gone because the website is gone. And i forgot where and how to replace the map... *Sadface*

The site isn't gone.  ;)  I let the domain expire because we're using these forums now instead of maintaining a separate set for just the Paragon Wiki.  Here's the link to the old forum with the map FAQs.  Have at it!

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Re: Replace/Edit Map Overlay
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2010, 02:02:34 AM »
Awesome. Thanks tony!
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