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Shinobu:
First of all... there's a nice stickied post on how to link to a build, but nowhere can I find where it lists the ID for my build in the program.

However, the gist of my problem is this:  a friend worked up a possible build for my scrapper in mids and sent it to me.  I went over it and then downloaded the program and worked up my own build (partly working from what I already have -- I don't have the respects to just yank out every IO I already own, and I don't like a few of the things my friend did in his build anyway).

My problem is that in his build, melee defense shows at some 46%.  In my build, it shows 15% less.  I spent a couple of hours trying to figure out why, because my build actually incorporates some melee defense set bonuses and his does not.  What I eventually figured out was that, when I turned on DA, it added 15% to my build but 30% to his build.

This confuses me because both builds have DA six-slotted with a full Mako's set, and my build has more global recharge built into it (I don't think his has any at all?)   Yet mids insists that his DA would recycle faster and double stack.

From practical experience, I've had DA quadruple stack, so keeping it double stacked in the middle of a battle has never been any problem at all.  Ultimately what mids is telling me just seems really misleading.  It seems to suggest that in his build DA would hit more often and my melee defense would be higher, when I don't see how that's actually the case.  Or else I'm missing something?

Shinobu:
Since I don't know what my build ID is, here's the text version:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Mouse Police: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Katana
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Sting of the Wasp [*] (A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (3) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
[*] (3) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (5) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
[*] (5) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
[/list]Level 1: Fast Healing [*] (A) Healing IO
[/list]Level 2: Flashing Steel [*] (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
[*] (7) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
[*] (7) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
[*] (9) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (9) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
[/list]Level 4: Reconstruction [*] (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
[*] (37) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
[*] (37) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
[*] (48) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (50) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
[*] (50) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
[/list]Level 6: Build Up [*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO
[*] (11) Recharge Reduction IO
[/list]Level 8: Divine Avalanche [*] (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (11) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
[*] (13) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
[*] (13) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (43) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
[*] (43) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
[/list]Level 10: Quick Recovery [*] (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
[*] (43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
[/list]Level 12: Calling the Wolf [*] (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt
[*] (45) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge
[*] (46) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
[*] (46) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
[*] (46) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range
[/list]Level 14: Dull Pain [*] (A) Miracle - +Recovery
[*] (15) Miracle - Heal
[*] (15) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (17) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
[*] (17) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge
[/list]Level 16: Integration [*] (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance
[*] (23) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge
[*] (36) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
[*] (36) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (40) Miracle - Heal
[/list]Level 18: The Lotus Drops [*] (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
[*] (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
[*] (21) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
[*] (21) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
[/list]Level 20: Resilience [*] (A) Aegis - Resistance
[*] (23) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
[*] (37) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
[*] (40) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
[/list]Level 22: Boxing [*] (A) Damage Increase IO
[/list]Level 24: Tough [*] (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (25) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
[*] (25) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
[*] (27) Aegis - Resistance
[/list]Level 26: Soaring Dragon [*] (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (27) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
[*] (31) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
[*] (31) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (36) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
[/list]Level 28: Weave [*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
[*] (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
[*] (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
[*] (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
[/list]Level 30: Swift [*] (A) Flight Speed IO
[/list]Level 32: Golden Dragonfly [*] (A) Obliteration - Damage
[*] (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
[*] (33) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
[*] (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
[*] (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
[/list]Level 35: Health [*] (A) Healing IO
[/list]Level 38: Moment of Glory [*] (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
[*] (39) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
[*] (39) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge
[*] (39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (40) Aegis - Resistance
[/list]Level 41: Stamina [*] (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
[*] (42) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance
[*] (42) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
[*] (42) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
[/list]Level 44: Hover [*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
[*] (45) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
[*] (45) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
[/list]Level 47: Fly [*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
[*] (48) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
[*] (48) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
[/list]Level 49: Stealth [*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
[*] (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl [*] (A) Empty
[/list]Level 1: Sprint [*] (A) Empty
[/list]Level 2: Rest [*] (A) Empty
[/list]Level 1: Critical Hit

Shinobu:
And his proposed build, with fewer sets and fewer bonuses, no global recharge or melee defense bonus that I could find, but somehow claims to give me a higher melee defense:


Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Mouse Police: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Katana
Secondary Power Set: Regeneration
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Concealment

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Sting of the Wasp [*] (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
[*] (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
[*] (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (46) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
[/list]Level 1: Fast Healing [*] (A) Healing IO
[/list]Level 2: Flashing Steel [*] (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (7) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
[*] (7) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
[*] (9) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
[*] (9) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
[/list]Level 4: Reconstruction [*] (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
[*] (11) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
[*] (11) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
[*] (13) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (13) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
[*] (43) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
[/list]Level 6: Swift [*] (A) Run Speed IO
[/list]Level 8: Boxing [*] (A) Accuracy IO
[/list]Level 10: Hover [*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
[*] (15) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
[*] (15) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
[/list]Level 12: Stealth [*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
[*] (19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
[/list]Level 14: Health [*] (A) Healing IO
[/list]Level 16: Tough [*] (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
[*] (17) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
[*] (17) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (19) Aegis - Resistance
[/list]Level 18: Fly [*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
[*] (40) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
[*] (46) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
[/list]Level 20: Stamina [*] (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
[*] (21) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
[*] (21) Endurance Modification IO
[/list]Level 22: Weave [*] (A) Serendipity - Defense/Endurance
[*] (23) Serendipity - Defense
[*] (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
[*] (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
[/list]Level 24: Build Up [*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO
[*] (25) Recharge Reduction IO
[*] (27) Recharge Reduction IO
[/list]Level 26: Divine Avalanche [*] (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (27) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
[*] (29) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
[*] (29) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (31) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (40) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
[/list]Level 28: The Lotus Drops [*] (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (31) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
[*] (31) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
[*] (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
[*] (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
[*] (43) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Recharge
[/list]Level 30: Soaring Dragon [*] (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (33) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
[*] (34) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
[*] (34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (43) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
[/list]Level 32: Golden Dragonfly [*] (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
[*] (36) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
[*] (37) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
[*] (37) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
[*] (37) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
[*] (40) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Recharge
[/list]Level 35: Quick Recovery [*] (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
[*] (36) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
[*] (36) Endurance Modification IO
[/list]Level 38: Dull Pain [*] (A) Harmonized Healing - Heal/Recharge
[*] (39) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
[*] (39) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
[*] (39) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
[/list]Level 41: Integration [*] (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance
[*] (42) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
[*] (42) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
[*] (42) Miracle - Heal
[*] (46) Miracle - +Recovery
[/list]Level 44: Resilience [*] (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
[*] (45) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
[*] (45) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
[*] (45) Aegis - Resistance
[/list]Level 47: Instant Healing [*] (A) Harmonized Healing - Heal/Recharge
[*] (48) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
[*] (48) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
[*] (48) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
[/list]Level 49: Moment of Glory [*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge
[*] (50) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
[*] (50) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge
[*] (50) Serendipity - Defense/Recharge
[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl [*] (A) Empty
[/list]Level 1: Sprint [*] (A) Empty
[/list]Level 2: Rest [*] (A) Empty
[/list]Level 1: Critical Hit

Aggelakis:
You had DA listed as stacking only one time (15% melee/lethal defense). I put DA up to two stacks (30% melee/lethal defense), and it matched.

You can change stacking by dragging the little green slider that has a number beside it underneath the description and above the stats.

Shinobu:

Ah, ok.  I didn't know how do to that.

Now I understand better.  His build was to show me how to get AoE and Ranged Defense, and I'm using some of those ideas.  My build is partly based on the reality that I can't swap out ALL of my IOs that are already slotted, and partly based on my love for set bonuses and desire for a greater base melee defense before I enter combat.  After all, I might need to take an alpha strike and my DA isn't guaranteed to hit immediately.

Thanks.

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