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Avengers: Endgame
« on: April 27, 2019, 11:43:18 PM »
OMG! This movie is a MASTERPIECE!!!! I was bawling my eyes out at the end of the movie!!! GO SEE IT AND BRING SOME TISSUES!!!!

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2019, 04:50:11 PM »
Saddest thing: I truly don't think there will ever be another movie that comes near it.

I don't think I ever cried and laughed as much as this movie, and about things I never thought I would cry and laugh about. DC should just give up now.
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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2019, 05:58:34 PM »
Officially, biggest opening of all time.  $1.2 Billion worldwide, largest domestic opening in history.  By the end of today, it'll hit the Top 10 movies of all time if it goes past $1.3 Billion to overtake Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 2.
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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2019, 06:46:36 PM »
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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2019, 01:18:55 AM »
I liked most of it but it felt like a cool action movie bookended by something peter jackson edited. i think they were just trying to see if they could hit 3 hours and get away with it.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2019, 01:29:04 AM »
My theatre did not laugh when Thor proclaimed "I knew it!", nor did they cheer at the event that prompted the line, and this was extremely disappointing to me.

But that scene happened, so that made it an overall enjoyable experience.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2019, 06:51:03 AM »
My theatre did not laugh when Thor proclaimed "I knew it!", nor did they cheer at the event that prompted the line, and this was extremely disappointing to me.

But that scene happened, so that made it an overall enjoyable experience.

I had a theatre full of Normies who didn't see it coming, they went dead silent for that moment followed by some one nearbye me whispering to someone

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2019, 03:29:29 PM »
My theatre did not laugh when Thor proclaimed "I knew it!", nor did they cheer at the event that prompted the line, and this was extremely disappointing to me.

But that scene happened, so that made it an overall enjoyable experience.
My theatre laughed for that...

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2019, 07:04:16 PM »
A quickie question - hopefully not to many spoilers.,

I have not seen it yet but know the gist of it.

Where do you think they will go for the next phase?

I know we got Spider-Man, Black Widow, Eternals and a few other sequels with people that made it out alive.

Of course this leaves room for merging the FF and X-Men back into the MCU.

And if we get an FF and Evans is looking for work again, I heard he makes a pretty good Human Torch...

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2019, 11:42:06 PM »
Evans has stated (going back a few years now) that he wants to shift his focus to directing.

I think it would be really interesting to see him directing an MCU film, but he's going to need more than director one credit to his name.
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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2019, 12:57:51 AM »
Evans has stated (going back a few years now) that he wants to shift his focus to directing.

I think it would be really interesting to see him directing an MCU film, but he's going to need more than director one credit to his name.

Well you have to start someplace. Maybe his experiences being in many MCU films would give him an edge.

Many Star Trek actors that went on to full time directors started by directing Trek episodes first.

Sad to see him go. He WAS Captain America to me. But then again there have been about 17 Caps in the comics so .....


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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2019, 03:11:28 AM »
Endgame is the very definition of a non-repeatable event.

I wonder how many fans will use this as a jumping off point?

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2019, 11:35:10 AM »
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Where do you think they will go for the next phase?

If they are smart, before they start "Phase 4" they will have a Phase 3.5 that resets the "Cosmic" scale of the conflicts and returns things back down to where they were in Phase 1. They just had the culmination of a decade of build up and aren't going to top that in Avengers 5. If they are smart they will keep Captain marvel out of it (because she is over powered against anything that isn't Cosmic Scale) and like have The Avengers fight against Doctor Doom in a conflict that in universe lasts half a day at most, like.

Doom shows up in New York, Beats up Spiderman and Strange..then they have to get Sam and Black panther to help, Legion of Doom Bots, Doom vs Strange in a magic Duel.

then once people have gotten hungry for a new "Infinity War" level story line.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2019, 12:52:10 PM »
If they are smart they will keep Captain marvel out of it (because she is over powered against anything that isn't Cosmic Scale)

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except large numbers of ground troops. How will this woman who just flew through a giant space battleship ever get past these ground troops? It can't be done without help!

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2019, 02:18:45 PM »
Endgame is the very definition of a non-repeatable event.

I wonder how many fans will use this as a jumping off point?
It's definitely non-repeatable, but there are other Marvel cosmic threats to use.
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  • AvX? CM vs Phoenix? Or Onslaught?
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It'll be a while before any former Fox things get brought into the MCU, if ever.
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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2019, 01:17:25 AM »
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except large numbers of ground troops. How will this woman who just flew through a giant space battleship ever get past these ground troops? It can't be done without help!

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2019, 01:29:54 AM »
thankfully yes, cuz otherwise i wouldn't be able to get that on a shirt

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2019, 01:55:42 AM »
A quickie question - hopefully not to many spoilers.,

I have not seen it yet but know the gist of it.

Where do you think they will go for the next phase?

I know we got Spider-Man, Black Widow, Eternals and a few other sequels with people that made it out alive.

Of course this leaves room for merging the FF and X-Men back into the MCU.

And if we get an FF and Evans is looking for work again, I heard he makes a pretty good Human Torch...

I suspect they will go in directions most people aren't really expecting, and I believe Feige has demonstrated he has the patience to set up the long game over a very long period of time.  We've been calling these movies "phase one" and "phase two" but really they are all one big ten year story: the Infinity Saga.  I expect to see less "phase four, phase five" distinctions (even if they call them that) and instead I think they will be constructing another ten year long mega story that we aren't even going to see the full extent of in phase four.

Here's an idea.  I'm not saying this will happen, but it could happen, and it is mostly to suggest just how much room Marvel has to go in any direction they want.  Endgame sets up the Marvel multiverse.  We know there are alternate realities and alternate timelines, and we have hints that some of those are or become different universes, and some diverge and then collapse back.  Some are created and then destroyed.  Suppose there's a scientist in an alternate reality, and he discovers his reality is actually just a splinter universe from the MCU, and it will collapse and disintegrate.  So he decides he's going to try to escape that universe and enter the main one.  But when his ship escapes the end of his universe and he makes it into the MCU cosmology, he's altered by the process and becomes an MCU celestial being, like Ego.  Except this celestial being has a cosmic hunger, and a need to feed on the cosmic energy of the universe. 

Fortunately, the MCU is filled with the energy released from the Infinity Stones, and he can consume that energy on every world where it has collected.  Thus he becomes a world-destroying threat that attracts the attention of Captain Marvel, the Guardians of the Galaxy, and Thor: the space faring Avengers.  But eventually, he seeks the source of that energy and creates a herald who can search the cosmos for the strongest source of that energy, which happens to be the last world where the Infinity Stones were used.

There's easily ten years of material in there, and the new threat wouldn't just appear, it would be referenced and hinted at, then start affecting the MCU, then finally become an existential threat.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2019, 02:03:06 AM »
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except large numbers of ground troops. How will this woman who just flew through a giant space battleship ever get past these ground troops? It can't be done without help!

Comic book logic of course, but to be fair:

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The problem wasn't flying through the ground troops, it was delivering the Stark Infinity Gauntlet intact.  Think of a football linebacker trying to force his way through a crowd while cradling an egg.  We see the infinity stones aren't impossible to remove - Thanos uses the space stone against Danvers - so having help clearing a path through the crowd wasn't completely without purpose.  Those troops might not have been able to stop her, but they could have jarred the gauntlet out of her hands or even just knocked a single stone off of it.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2019, 02:11:41 AM »
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well she could just fly over them, cuz, y'know, ground troops.
but sure why not.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2019, 06:29:14 AM »
Comic book logic of course, but to be fair:

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The problem wasn't flying through the ground troops, it was delivering the Stark Infinity Gauntlet intact.  Think of a football linebacker trying to force his way through a crowd while cradling an egg.  We see the infinity stones aren't impossible to remove - Thanos uses the space stone against Danvers - so having help clearing a path through the crowd wasn't completely without purpose.  Those troops might not have been able to stop her, but they could have jarred the gauntlet out of her hands or even just knocked a single stone off of it.

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Them splitting the stones and trying to get each one to the van individually would have made for a far better sequence. The only bad part of the movie was how everyone not Captain Marvel, Tony Stark or Captain America was completely wasted.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2019, 04:24:12 PM »
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How do you put the Soul Stone back to Vormire in 2014 when Bruce just said they can't reverse Black Widow's death? So that means Black Widow and Gamora are trapped in the Soul Stone?

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2019, 10:12:50 PM »
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Them splitting the stones and trying to get each one to the van individually would have made for a far better sequence. The only bad part of the movie was how everyone not Captain Marvel, Tony Stark or Captain America was completely wasted.

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That would be problematic due to the fact that it has been pre-established that attempting to wield or even hold a single bare infinity stone can kill most beings not strong enough to contain the power.  There was no immediately obvious way to take the bare stones off the gauntlet without potentially killing most of those characters.  And there's an additional tactical problem that if you split up the stones you have to defend all of them: if Thanos gets even one of them he probably becomes too powerful to stop very quickly.  Splitting them up makes sense if Thanos must get them all.  But in this situation, he really only needs to get one to make life really difficult for the Avengers.

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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2019, 06:08:03 AM »
I suspect they will go in directions most people aren't really expecting, and I believe Feige has demonstrated he has the patience to set up the long game over a very long period of time.  We've been calling these movies "phase one" and "phase two" but really they are all one big ten year story: the Infinity Saga.  I expect to see less "phase four, phase five" distinctions (even if they call them that) and instead I think they will be constructing another ten year long mega story that we aren't even going to see the full extent of in phase four.

Here's an idea.  I'm not saying this will happen, but it could happen, and it is mostly to suggest just how much room Marvel has to go in any direction they want.  Endgame sets up the Marvel multiverse.  We know there are alternate realities and alternate timelines, and we have hints that some of those are or become different universes, and some diverge and then collapse back.  Some are created and then destroyed.  Suppose there's a scientist in an alternate reality, and he discovers his reality is actually just a splinter universe from the MCU, and it will collapse and disintegrate.  So he decides he's going to try to escape that universe and enter the main one.  But when his ship escapes the end of his universe and he makes it into the MCU cosmology, he's altered by the process and becomes an MCU celestial being, like Ego.  Except this celestial being has a cosmic hunger, and a need to feed on the cosmic energy of the universe. 

Fortunately, the MCU is filled with the energy released from the Infinity Stones, and he can consume that energy on every world where it has collected.  Thus he becomes a world-destroying threat that attracts the attention of Captain Marvel, the Guardians of the Galaxy, and Thor: the space faring Avengers.  But eventually, he seeks the source of that energy and creates a herald who can search the cosmos for the strongest source of that energy, which happens to be the last world where the Infinity Stones were used.

There's easily ten years of material in there, and the new threat wouldn't just appear, it would be referenced and hinted at, then start affecting the MCU, then finally become an existential threat.

You're as prescient as ever...

In Endgame, the Sorcerer Supreme says the stones are needed to keep time coherently moving forward. But they're gone, so... oopsie.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2019, 08:51:28 AM »
I feel we need to take that Far From Home example with a very large grain of salt.

Erhem I want to rant about this.

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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2019, 06:23:18 PM »
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That would be problematic due to the fact that it has been pre-established that attempting to wield or even hold a single bare infinity stone can kill most beings not strong enough to contain the power.  There was no immediately obvious way to take the bare stones off the gauntlet without potentially killing most of those characters.  And there's an additional tactical problem that if you split up the stones you have to defend all of them: if Thanos gets even one of them he probably becomes too powerful to stop very quickly.  Splitting them up makes sense if Thanos must get them all.  But in this situation, he really only needs to get one to make life really difficult for the Avengers.

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Only the Power Stone is dangerous to the wielder on its own. Banner held the Time Stone and Hawkeye the Soul Stone with no ill effects, but even Thanos seemed to be in pain when he had to take the Power Stone out of the gauntlet to use it against Captain Marvel.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2019, 09:13:36 PM »
Agents of SHIELD spoiler

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A doppelganger from what appears to be an alternate universe breaks into SHIELD's universe.

The multiverse is happening.

Yeah, looking forward to how this season plays out.

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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2019, 05:18:10 AM »
I feel we need to take that Far From Home example with a very large grain of salt.

Erhem I want to rant about this.

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WHY ARE YOU TAKING ANYTHING MYSTERIO SAYS AT FACE VALUE, HE IS MYSTERIO. His entire shtick is being full of crap! He is lying to make himself look good!

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Well yeah Mysterio lies but I don't think Fury would just accept he was from another dimension unless there were breakthroughs happening in other locations.  It is however entirely possible that Mysterio knows about breakthroughs and took advantage of that to come up with his story.  I actually got excited at the SHIELD scenes because it showed that they were at least trying to still tie together the TV and movie universes.

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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2019, 11:40:42 AM »
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Well yeah Mysterio lies but I don't think Fury would just accept he was from another dimension unless there were breakthroughs happening in other locations.  It is however entirely possible that Mysterio knows about breakthroughs and took advantage of that to come up with his story.  I actually got excited at the SHIELD scenes because it showed that they were at least trying to still tie together the TV and movie universes.

Though one of the actors said in an interview SHIELD is now basically removed from the MCU.

But now we could have an explanation because of all this.

And I agree about Fury - he's not that gullible. 

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2019, 11:54:19 AM »
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Though one of the actors said in an interview SHIELD is now basically removed from the MCU.

The Writers didn't get that note, because the Finale of the Last Season of SHIELD occurred just as Infinity War was starting.

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« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2019, 03:53:53 PM »
The Writers didn't get that note, because the Finale of the Last Season of SHIELD occurred just as Infinity War was starting.

She meant starting this season - which is odd considering the multiverse was mentioned in the Spidey trailer and this season has people from an other reality invading.

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« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2019, 04:25:10 PM »
At this point, SHIELD has done more monkeying with time than Endgame did. And they didn't even need any stones.
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« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2019, 05:54:33 PM »
I just keep looking forward to any explicit reference SHIELD might make to being post-snap.

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« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2019, 08:46:59 PM »
At this point, SHIELD has done more monkeying with time than Endgame did. And they didn't even need any stones.

I am still trying to figure out the timeloop - they were able to change the future and get back to 2018 because frozen Fitz helps them in that future to get back.

Now if they go and find him and he never gets to the point 75 years later to do what he did, then would they be able to change that future?

I guess its the same logic in EndGame - and probably wont even be addressed - much like the Flash TV series doesn't even bother explaining.

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« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2019, 09:46:09 PM »
I guess its the same logic in EndGame - and probably wont even be addressed - much like the Flash TV series doesn't even bother explaining.

It's more like in both of those that they make a point to explain then do something else anyway :D

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2019, 10:10:06 PM »
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Now if they go and find him and he never gets to the point 75 years later to do what he did, then would they be able to change that future?

They already did change the future by Earth not blowin up

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« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2019, 12:03:57 AM »
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Now if they go and find him and he never gets to the point 75 years later to do what he did, then would they be able to change that future?

They already did change the future by Earth not blowin up

Right - but they were only able to do that because of frozen Fitz helping them 75 years in the future to get back to their present to stop it.

If he isn't there in the future to help them..........

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« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2019, 06:06:01 AM »
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Shield (Fitz and Simmons) has made the point many times that the past and future can't be changed. However, they didn't account for the Inhuman power of the girl who can see past and future who set in motion a time loop. Once inside the time loop, information was shared from future to past on how to break the loop (let Coulson die). Coulson broke the loop by giving away his cure to Quake who then used it to defeat Graviton who then was unable to break the Earth.

To tie it into Endgame, there's now two timelines: one with Earth destroyed and one not. The one not destroyed saved itself with information from the other timeline. Is that timeline now gone? Who knows. In the timeline where Earth wasn't destroyed, Fitz was put into cyro-sleep now for no good reason, so, they're trying to get him back.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2019, 11:29:31 AM »
Right - but they were only able to do that because of frozen Fitz helping them 75 years in the future to get back to their present to stop it.

If he isn't there in the future to help them..........

But they won't need help to get to the past to help them after the Kree take over because the Planet is already not blow'd up because the blow'ding up of the planet would have already happened so the kree won't ever take over the planet and the Agents will arrive at a happy shiny un Kree'd un Snappe'd world.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2019, 11:44:07 AM »
The huge battle they had near teh end of the movie was like to me HOLY FUDGE ITS THE MOTHER OF ALL MOVIE SUPER BATTLES!!! THIS IS LIKE SOMETHING STRAIGHT FROM THE COMICS!!.  They did a hell of a job and i liked the way they went canon and made falcon into the next cap but will cap get back his youth like he does in marvel comics thatnks to some huge event?  Only time will tell.  And as for the ending yeah I also really liked it

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2019, 01:58:48 PM »
Canon would be Bucky, then Steve again, then Sam. But yeah he could be interesting as cap in the movie continuity.

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« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2019, 09:08:20 PM »
Canon would be Bucky, then Steve again, then Sam. But yeah he could be interesting as cap in the movie continuity.

Especially since he is just a regular guy that has those wings. Would he have the strength and ability to even use the shield properly?

Sure he has combat training but he has no special abilities like Steve had from the serum.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2019, 05:44:30 AM »
Finally got to see this today.  There was some great stuff in it, but I didn't enjoy it as much as Infinity War.

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And I'm not sure it was meant to be enjoyed as much.  It started out on a somber note, proceeded at a somewhat lethargic pace, and largely maintained that somber tone throughout. Even the look was dull and desaturated (with purpose).  And it all existed as a slow build to an epic battle tinged with sadness - I've a vague notion to call it Wagner-esque.  Now for some specific bits and bobs:

I didn't care for Banner's voice coming out of the Hulk.  It seemed like it should be deeper.  Loved that we got that version of the character, though.

The girl power moment was cheesy and contrived but I loved it.

I often don't notice product placement even when people say it's blatant in a film, but what is it with these movies and Audi?

One wonders about Cap not being worthy previously.  Was that one really a Skrull filling in?  Or perhaps Cap felt Mjolnir start to move and then pretended not to be able to lift it so as not to elevate himself above the others.  In any case, his moment of worthiness here was brilliant.

I nearly cheered for Thanos' farm.

I was really hoping Nebula would use the Gauntlet to stop Thanos.  I could see where they were going, but I still kept hoping.

I look forward to Asgardians of the Galaxy vol. 3.
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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #43 on: May 25, 2019, 02:16:52 AM »
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I tend to think Cap started to lift it and then pretended he couldn't so not to make a scene.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2019, 12:07:37 AM »
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I tend to think Cap started to lift it and then pretended he couldn't so not to make a scene.

In the comics it was a big deal when he did it. Not many other people can.

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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2019, 05:44:14 PM »
Finally got to see this today.  There was some great stuff in it, but I didn't enjoy it as much as Infinity War.


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And I'm not sure it was meant to be enjoyed as much.  It started out on a somber note, proceeded at a somewhat lethargic pace, and largely maintained that somber tone throughout. Even the look was dull and desaturated (with purpose).  And it all existed as a slow build to an epic battle tinged with sadness - I've a vague notion to call it Wagner-esque.  Now for some specific bits and bobs:

I didn't care for Banner's voice coming out of the Hulk.  It seemed like it should be deeper.  Loved that we got that version of the character, though.

The girl power moment was cheesy and contrived but I loved it.

I often don't notice product placement even when people say it's blatant in a film, but what is it with these movies and Audi?

One wonders about Cap not being worthy previously.  Was that one really a Skrull filling in?  Or perhaps Cap felt Mjolnir start to move and then pretended not to be able to lift it so as not to elevate himself above the others.  In any case, his moment of worthiness here was brilliant.

I nearly cheered for Thanos' farm.

I was really hoping Nebula would use the Gauntlet to stop Thanos.  I could see where they were going, but I still kept hoping.

I look forward to Asgardians of the Galaxy vol. 3.


Likewise,  I finally just saw this (tough to do with a newborn, but my wife and I managed to sneak away for a matinee with only 3 other couples in the theater.... was great).


But, yes,  my wife and I were chatting and I admit that I loved infinity war slightly more,  but that doesn't detract from how good endgame was, especially tying up so many things over 10 years.  My wife's point was that infinity war seemed to skew more toward action whereas endgame was drama-heavy.

I pretty much agree with all of the above that I quoted.
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  I loved that Cap got to wield Mjolnir and that Thor cheered him on ("I knew it!!").  In Ultron, maybe Cap had that moment where he was about to succeed,  realized it,  then pride made him fumble it ("oh $@#%, I think I can pick it up") and it dropped back in place. At least in my head,  that is more reasonable than him spontaneously deciding to fake not being able to lift it. )


Not a fan of Sam as the new Cap, just because he literally is a guy with mechanical wings, but I understand the story arc.


I see potential for another cap movie just returning the stones,  if Chris Evan's needs a cash infusion at some point.


I didn't get to see Captain Marvel, but she seemed like such a disposable character here.


I was prepared to leave the MCU after endgame due to fatigue,  but suggestions of the next big bad have me curious [/font]
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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2019, 06:59:46 PM »
I was thinking - 2023 Nebula gets part of her arm burned off getting the stone from the vault in 2014.

Rhodes was there and saw that.

He poofs back to 2023, she gets stuck behind and captured by 2014 Thanos.

2014 Nebula takes the gold plate off 2023 Nebula to pretend to be her.

She poofs back to 2023 and the way things were set up she returns the same time as everyone else.

Rhodes does not notice that her arm that was burned off was is just fine all of a sudden?

And also come to think of it - isn't the 2023 Nebula arm more metallic anyway, and 2014 Nebula's is not, and not one person noticed that either?


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Re: Avengers: Endgame
« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2019, 11:21:35 PM »
It sure took me long enough to realize this.

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