The Shot Heard Around Paragon City - SCORE Public Release

[Noyjitat]

Its a race to get something that works at this point. Once that os established we should vote on a top 3 list and make one our home server. Can use fakebook or something to do that poll. I know anything related to it will simply get deleted here.

[Ultimate15]

Its a race to get something that works at this point. Once that os established we should vote on a top 3 list and make one our home server. Can use fakebook or something to do that poll. I know anything related to it will simply get deleted here.

Agreed about the home server. Obviously beggers can't be choosers, but I dunno how I'd feel about there being, like, a million small servers out there ya'know? I'd rather us all be playing together in one big / centralized world.

[Kyriani]

Just from the hardware and financial requirements I've seen bandied about, a bunch of smaller servers seems more realistic than only a few giant servers. A bunch of smaller servers is also "safer" too. The bigger a server is, the bigger a target it has on its back for NCSoft to shut it down.

[Eiko-chan]

You think I have a condescending tone?

I think what you need to start doing is reading my posts in papa smurf's voice.

Papa Smurf was condescending as heck.

[undeadsuits]

Agreed about the home server. Obviously beggers can't be choosers, but I dunno how I'd feel about there being, like, a million small servers out there ya'know? I'd rather us all be playing together in one big / centralized world.

Oh absolutely. People are going to congregate to the server that can hold the most people. So really, it's whoever can get a stable highpop server up first. And with the code now free to use It's a better shot of someone with the right hardware and knowhow than ever.

[Arkasas]

The server code is, from what I understand, entirely NCSoft's, I24 edition - to the point that it contains literal instructions for the authserver to phone home to an NCSoft email if something goes wrong. SCoRE's server, as I understand it, is modified, but still relies upon NCSoft proprietary code. So if that's a problem for you, wait for SEGS/hypothetical other complete rewrite to finish, I guess.

It's possible you could see something soon, but I wouldn't bet on it - there's progress, but the code is still spaghetti. Leandro's said he'll set up a server if anyone has a spare physical machine lying around tonight, but that's modestly unlikely, and I suspect many of you would refuse to play on it. (Also, fwiw, launch day on any server is going to be like landing on Omaha Beach, except there's only one boat, and it's carrying 15-20k when it's meant to carry maybe 150-200. It's not going to be pretty at all.)

[undeadsuits]

There's a large mountain to climb but we are infinitely closer than we were 4 days ago.

[Sinistar]

Just from the hardware and financial requirements I've seen bandied about, a bunch of smaller servers seems more realistic than only a few giant servers. A bunch of smaller servers is also "safer" too. The bigger a server is, the bigger a target it has on its back for NCSoft to shut it down.

I suspect it will be some mid sized servers and many private secret servers

[Phocks]

There's a large mountain to climb but we are infinitely closer than we were 4 days ago.

It's pretty amazing how sharing and being transparent has done more for the community in under a week than paranoia and gatekeeping has done in 5 years.

[Ultimate15]

Each server should have a silly and ridiculous theme to it lmao. And everyone should be, like, irrationally strict about it.

This is the BATHING SUITS ONLY server, this is the CAT CREATURES ONLY server, this is the ROBOT PEOPLE EVERYWHERE server...

[WolfSoul]

And this is only going to happen because they got caught. Not out of the goodness of their hearts or because it's the right thing to do. They got caught. I'd like it to happen, but I'll believe it when I see it. And it will take a lot of time before they have my trust or forgiveness.

[Taceus Jiwede]

Being real? I never said stop being upset. I don't expect people to "get over it"

I've been attacked, thwarted, disowned, and excommunicated by my blood relative family.

I know first hand that there is no such thing as "just get over it" because nobody ever just "gets over it". I'd never discredit someone's pain.

Healing takes time, so yeah, lets do whatever it takes to heal ourselves.

Heroes can be upset, heartbroken, in pain and still put on that cape and be heroes.

That's really what we all need to do, no matter how much it hurts now, or in the future.

We must steel ourselves for this incoming bumpy ride.

Breaking out the pitchforks and tearing into each other? That's easy.

Putting on the cape? Behaving like the community we SHOULD be? That's hard.

But it's what we should do.

That's why I say avoid the rift. She's a bitch.

Sorry, perhaps that came off more blunt or rude than intended.  I simply meant people have different processes of healing their wounds, for many the first stage is the "pitchfork" stage until they are able to calm down and begin healing their wounds.

[Felderburg]

Papa Smurf was condescending as heck.

Searching for "Papa Smurf is condescending" reveals: https://tcrf.net/The_Teletransport_Smurf

Edit: Due to the migration of posts from "New Efforts" to this thread, the quote above no longer links properly. But it is unmodified, and the original can be found in this thread (I don't want to put the effort in right now).

[Super Atom]

Maybe we should name that anniversary badge "Sunrise" given the circumstances?

[RGladden]

Maybe we should name that anniversary badge "Sunrise" given the circumstances?

Or "Cabal".

[Tivomaniac]

Or "Cabal".

Phoenix

[Leandro]

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[undeadsuits]

It's pretty amazing how sharing and being transparent has done more for the community in under a week than paranoia and gatekeeping has done in 5 years.

Man, Imagine if the original leak back in November hadn't been squashed by score. Thats like 6 months of progress the true community could have had.

[RGladden]

Wow.  The ability to play CoH just went from being a possibility to a probability. 

[Jordan_Lee]

Important, because a lot of people are taking out of their arse.

The source code release is all the source code that I was given access to. I am pretty sure it's all the source code that has ever existed; you can build the game client and all servers, with not a lot of effort if you know what you're doing in Visual Studio 2005.

Things like NPCs, missions and so on are not source code. That's data. The binaries created with the source code load the data from pigg files and/or a data folder, just like the game client. In fact, a lot of the client pigg files are used as-is by the server components, and others are modified variants.

Creating all the server-side data files from scratch could take months even with help. That's why I am out there asking for servers to load working binaries on, so everybody who just wants to play can do it right away, and everybody who has actual interest in development can take a deep breath and start figuring out what to do.

Whatever servers I set up will use the latest binaries and data that SCORE itself was using, internally referred to as "Issue 25: Unbroken Spirit". This is simply because it will be the fastest to deploy, since it already has tools for account creation, all the microtransaction garbage like the Paragon Rewards tree removed, and many other optimizations. I am sure there will be a lot of complaints about it not being a "pure" release that will want a lot of changes stripped. Have some patience. It will take much longer to get a server set up if I have to roll back my repositories to early 2013 and hunt down a version of the data files that would play nice with it and does not have massive gaps in content. I don't even think such a version exists. This was a massive reverse engineering operation that took months to get something usable.

The Issue 25 data files, while they will work to set up as many servers as you want based on Issue 25, cannot be directly used with binaries built from the source code. You could mount an entire operation to decompile those files to get something editable back, or you can just have some patience and wait until I can put together a release. I am moving as fast as I can to get this thing out there because I believe that once a few running servers are out there being managed by different people with no connections to me, people will back off and give me the time I need to make sure that anything else that is released does not put anyone at risk; neither former Paragon Studios developers nor former SCORE members.

On that note, former SCORE members that have access to the data repository: please don't take it upon yourself to release anything. You would be putting others at risk. Have some patience.

Thank you. I don't understand any of that, at all. I just wanted to say thank you. We do appreciate this.