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Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« on: June 08, 2018, 02:42:01 PM »
I think the first two episodes were interesting. So Tyrone and Tandy got their powers from an oil spill? Weird...

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2018, 06:57:36 PM »
Not bad. They've ported the serious pacing problems over from the recent Netflix stuff though. It's almost like they were trying to make two episodes entirely from montages. Still, way better than shield/cw/gotham so far.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2018, 09:47:19 PM »
Still, way better than shield/cw/gotham so far.

Wow you think it's better than those shows? Interesting.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2018, 10:46:01 PM »
Well there's not a lot I don't think is better than those. Legion. Legion is worse. and, ummmm. Lemme get back to you.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2018, 02:30:59 AM »
I think the first two episodes were interesting. So Tyrone and Tandy got their powers from an oil spill? Weird...

Well... an energy spike due to something they (Tandy's Dad and Roxxon) were doing on said platform.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2018, 03:19:00 PM »
Wow you think it's better than those shows? Interesting.
Well, anything is better than Gotham.

Anyway, it dragged in places, but overall, this is coming along good so far.
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2018, 03:36:29 PM »
I have not seen the episode yet, but I understand that their origin has some links to Agent Carter and her S2 adventures with the Darkforce, so the 'oil' might be something more exotic.

http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/did-you-catch-cloak-and-daggers-agent-carter-and-agents-of-shield-connection

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2018, 01:17:43 PM »
Slow going.  Awful music.

When Cloak first showed up on that Roxxon roof and we got a shot through one of the letters of the neon sign, it reminded me of the rooftop at the end of Highlander.

My interest is barely maintained thus far.
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2018, 03:18:14 PM »
Ep 3 fell off a cliff from the first two, which were OK. Looking like it's going to be another trite snooze fest.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2018, 09:29:50 AM »
Ep 3 fell off a cliff from the first two, which were OK. Looking like it's going to be another trite snooze fest.

Finally got back to this after getting sidetracked by Luke Cage.  You weren't exaggerating about episode 3.  It was a boring mess.  Way worse than I expected.  I might be put off catching up with it to watch GLOW season 2 or something.
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2018, 01:09:49 AM »
I get completely pulled out of the show every time they represent her light dagger with that cheap acrylic crystal.  Lightsabers 40 years ago looked better than that.  Kids on youtube are doing much better effects at home.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2018, 03:25:51 AM »
If they just excised all the voodoo stuff it'd be a lot better. It feels forced and completely divorced from the main narrative to me. But at least the story's gaining a bit of momentum now.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2018, 05:51:24 AM »
If they just excised all the voodoo stuff it'd be a lot better. It feels forced and completely divorced from the main narrative to me. But at least the story's gaining a bit of momentum now.

I also think the voodoo stuff is unnecessary. I really don't know how and why it's part of the plot. Maybe because it's in New Orleans and their religious culture?

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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2018, 07:07:59 PM »

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2018, 10:25:20 PM »
Except for one being black and the other white, yeah, there is a certain resemblance.
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2018, 08:51:13 AM »
Except for one being black and the other white, yeah, there is a certain resemblance.

They're both apparently human... and women...
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2018, 01:02:17 AM »
That being said I thought the latest episode was rather interesting with them running around in Ivan Hess' mind trying to find a way to wake him up.

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2018, 01:31:57 AM »
Seemed like the TV version of a PL to me.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2018, 02:47:50 AM »
Seemed like the TV version of a PL to me.

PL?
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2018, 03:01:38 AM »
Power Level. Hess's mind was pretty much an AE farm in need of a nerf.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2018, 07:22:18 PM »
Season 2 greenlit for 10 eps again. Seems like a good number for this. Actually it seems like a good number for a lot of shows that do more too.

Oh and I love the idea of the bank that lets you open safe deposit boxes under fake names, holds the box without the rent being paid for 10 years, then lets anyone who has the key in without an ID.

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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2018, 07:28:26 PM »
It was supposed to be a shocking and horrifying moment, but because of the associated trope I was fully expecting it in the lead up and just burst out laughing at the reveal...

Maybe that's just evidence that I'm a horrible person.
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2018, 05:10:05 AM »
It was the best episode yet although yes the trope was predictable.  Both of them.  I just hope they tie up both the Roxxon and dirty cop storylines and don't drag them through season 2.  I know they can do it but I doubt they will. 

I liked the reference to Misty. At least they aren't pretending they are in a completely unrelated universe.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2018, 06:03:03 AM »
I think I liked the Ivan episode better.
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Tandy's flashback seemed to drag on and lacked relevance.  And the reveal about her father was an eyeroller for me.  That it pushed her to strike a deal where she gives up her leverage for money just made it worse.  Yeah, that corrupt suit you humiliated and threatened who has assassins on call will totally call it even and move on now...
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2018, 04:27:05 AM »
Spoiler for Hidden:
Eh, she's a teen who's been living on the street who's had her whole world turned upside down again and just found out the father she idolized turned out not to be the perfect hero she thought. I can't say it's all that surprising to me.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2018, 07:02:21 AM »
What bothers me the most is Detective O'Reilly doesn't remorse killing Greg. She could've AT LEAST show some of emotion out of her to show that she's made a mistake but, she just brushed it off and continued being a "Good Cop." l liked that Tyrone addressed it to her but, he still trust her for some reason. Gtfo.
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2018, 12:07:10 PM »
Stan Lee cameo in a painting...  it's bugging me because I can't recall the original work and artist...
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2018, 12:41:53 PM »
Well, it's in an Andy Warhol style portrait.
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2018, 01:45:44 PM »
Well, it's in an Andy Warhol style portrait.

Thanks.  For some reason, my brain was stuck on Jackson Pollock.  But that's the drippy guy.  Stupid old brain.
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2018, 09:07:40 PM »
Instead of a bad cover of Come Sail Away, I was hearing The Touch in my head.
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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2018, 05:25:06 PM »
So Detective O'Reilly will be the main antagonist in season 2?

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2018, 06:04:43 PM »
Detective O'Reilly want pants too!

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2018, 09:47:45 PM »
She becomes Mayhem, a vigilante in the comics.  If I recall correctly, it's been a long time since I read them, she's helps C&D more than hinders.

In the comics it's Dagger that resurrects her.  I guess they, the TV people, want to make that Dark Force stuff more important.

In that last episode I thought maybe Dagger would learn to use her light power to drive the fear from the "terrors", trying it out first with Mina.   Oh well.  Her light also heals, but I guess they're dragging that reveal out a little longer.

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Re: Marvel's Cloak & Dagger
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2018, 10:48:39 PM »
I loved how Tyrone absorbed Conners into the Dark Dimension like he did in the comics. I thought that was cool.