Supergirl TV Series

[Golden Girl]

The Supergirl pilot "leaked" today - in suspiciously high definition and without any watermark - just like the flash pilot "leaked" last year in suspiciously high definition and without any watermarks.

My review - this is the greatest thing ever put on TV :P

[Vee]

I'm downloading now but kind of afraid to watch as I'm still in comic book guy mode over how silly the flash finale was.

[Ohioknight]

Try this then - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj8Ty9TrqYg

I'm with you GG, the show looks awesome -- and this version of the trailer sells it a LOT better.

[Golden Girl]

I'm downloading now but kind of afraid to watch as I'm still in comic book guy mode over how silly the flash finale was.

Just put your mind in a Silver Age place, and you'll be fine ;)

[Vee]

Wasn't too bad. Either they did a quick re-editing job after the reactions to the trailer or they should fire whomever put the trailer together.

Spoiler for Hidden:

Though there's something a bit disturbing about the implication that if Kal wasn't a baby who'd need protecting they'd just have let Kara die on Krypton with the rest of them. Was that the case in the comics? Never read any Supergirl stuff.

[The Fifth Horseman]

The Supergirl pilot "leaked" today - in suspiciously high definition and without any watermark - just like the flash pilot "leaked" last year in suspiciously high definition and without any watermarks.

My review - this is the greatest thing ever put on TV :P

Not everyone seems to agree, going from comments in other places.

My guess? It was leaked on purpose, to see if after the reactions to the first trailer the show needed some retooling.

[GamingGlen]

The Supergirl pilot "leaked" today - in suspiciously high definition and without any watermark - just like the flash pilot "leaked" last year in suspiciously high definition and without any watermarks.

My review - this is the greatest thing ever put on TV :P

...because it has animated hair?

[FatherXmas]

Well I'm 2/3rds of the way through right now, it's buffering so I'm going to let the player finish buffering it but so far so good.  Three minutes for the origin story, a little "but you're a girl so you can't beat me" spiel, like Flash because Kara is new at this, nice setup for villain of the week, special effects what you would expect for TV, higher budget than the CW shows.

Okay.  All done.  Nice twist at the end.  Still a smidge heavy handed with the anti-alien rhetoric from Director Hardass.

And that the Lord that all those female empowerment anthems in the first look are absent.  So we have a newbie superhero fighting off alien escape prisoners who are preparing for the arrival of General Not-Zod.  I can get behind that.

Fears averted.  Misgivings reduced.

As for the "leak", yeah, I know they are trying to target a wider audience but if you lose the fandom up front, you're in serious trouble.  This should assuage their fears.  It has mine.

Still, love the stunt casting, hope they guest star sometime during the season.  And give Dean something to say next time.

[Golden Girl]

...because it has animated hair?

Her hair's amazing - and glorious when she's flying :P

[CG]

And that the Lord that all those female empowerment anthems in the first look are absent.  So we have a newbie superhero fighting off alien escape prisoners who are preparing for the arrival of General Not-Zod.  I can get behind that.

Fears averted.  Misgivings reduced.

As for the "leak", yeah, I know they are trying to target a wider audience but if you lose the fandom up front, you're in serious trouble.  This should assuage their fears.  It has mine.

What exactly is wrong with female empowerment anthems? 

CBS doesn't need "the fandom".  It's a national network, and the number of comic books fans out there is rounding error on their demographics.  The CW doesn't rely on "the fandom" for Arrow and the Flash.  Their target audience is 18-34 year old women, who typically aren't comic book fans.  I suspect CBS is aiming at the same demographic.  They don't need "the fandom" if they can get a chunk of the regular population; it'll be a audience than all the fans put together.

[Mandu]

Good points

Loved her adopted parents.  They couldn't have picked a better couple for the stunt casting.

The show was more than good enough.  Considering how long it takes most series to get up to speed it was a very good first episode.   Now if it doesn't progress beyond this level then it will be just meh overall but I'll still watch it.

Bad points. 

Cat is too cliche and overacted.  Calista is acting like she is in a 70s superhero show.  Even Tracy Scoggins did a better job of being Cat.

The same goes for the prisoners.  I kept expecting one of them to break out in a mwah hah hah hah hah laugh.  It's entirely possible to be a classic villain archetype and even chew the scenery without being hammy.

Worst Point

She knows virtually nothing about her cousin.  In fact the show makes it seem like she hasn't even met him beyond that first scene.  I know that the series can't use him so I don't expect him to show up and hang out.  But it makes it look as if he just dropped her off and then left which means Superman is a real dick.

[Golden Girl]

But it makes it look as if he just dropped her off and then left which means Superman is a real dick.

Maybe he had a premonition? :P


https://i.imgur.com/YhFk4eZ.jpg

[FatherXmas]

But it makes it look as if he just dropped her off and then left which means Superman is a real dick.

Yeah, but that's par for the course.

But as "Jimmy" said, he, Kal, wanted her to make the decision as to when herself.  And you can't have big blue watch over Metropolis and visit the cuz on holidays.

What exactly is wrong with female empowerment anthems? 

CBS doesn't need "the fandom".  It's a national network, and the number of comic books fans out there is rounding error on their demographics.  The CW doesn't rely on "the fandom" for Arrow and the Flash.  Their target audience is 18-34 year old women, who typically aren't comic book fans.  I suspect CBS is aiming at the same demographic.  They don't need "the fandom" if they can get a chunk of the regular population; it'll be a audience than all the fans put together.

Because it turns the show into yet another Felicity or something on ABC Family.  She's FREAKING SUPERGIRL.  That's plenty empowering without her leaning to stand up to either of her "bosses" or how to date guys who aren't jerks.  As for the demographic CBS is desperately looking for a show that can appeal to the younger audience, as you say the 18-34 demo or even younger 18-29.  CBS may have the most watched show on TV in the US with NCIS but it's 18-49 demo tells a different story.  They are barely keeping up in the demo against shows with half the viewers.

You always need fandom to stoke the fires for something as offbeat genre wise as a superhero show in primetime.  CW is a tiny network, they can get away with it and Flash, their number one show in ratings, would be considered a middling success on large networks.  AoS survives on ABC because ABC and Marvel are Disney and they understand the synergy they get with AoS between the MCU releases.  Gotham on Fox, who knows.  It's more of a police/mob drama than anything "super hero".

NBC is bringing back Heroes and CBS needed something to fill that gap in genre and with the same production company that succeeded with The Flash and Arrow that shows the range from light hearted fun to darkly dark dark of the darkness, CBS stepped up and paid the piper for Supergirl.  You don't think WB wouldn't try to make as much as they can from a major network Vs their "own" for a property than can reference Superman without ever saying his name.  They likely presented CBS a list of what's off the table, future movie properties, and told them to pick anything but those.

Yes you need fandom because if there was enough scuttlebutt that the show's terrible, like the Wonder Woman pilot, it wouldn't get off the ground.  At least now it's up to the mundanes to keep the show on the air.

[ricodah]

Maybe he had a premonition? :P

https://i.imgur.com/YhFk4eZ.jpg

Wow, I never seen that issue before.  I wonder how Superman got out of that situation.  Maybe he kissed Perry White and he forgot sort of like what Superman did to Lois Lane in Superman 2.

[Vee]

No need to wonder when there are terabytes of comics just a click away. Turns out Supergirl and Perry were androids sent by the Superman Revenge Squad just to mess with Supes.

[Ohioknight]

Wow, I never seen that issue before.  I wonder how Superman got out of that situation.  Maybe he kissed Perry White and he forgot sort of like what Superman did to Lois Lane in Superman 2.

It's not what it used to be, but the whole thing is out there in the archives and highly recommended:

http://www.superdickery.com/tag/superman-is-a-dick/page/23/

[Vee]

Should start a Bats offshoot of that site. Just for example in good old Batman #1 he goes to elaborate means to kill mutated mental patients minutes after synthesizing a cure for them. #2, not to be outdone has him kidnapping a near-death Joker from the hospital in order to force him into brain surgery.

[doc7924]

Any Helen Slater in this series?

Just like they gave the original TV Flash a role in the new series, I was wondering if any love for the original Supergirl?

[Tenzhi]

Any Helen Slater in this series?

Just like they gave the original TV Flash a role in the new series, I was wondering if any love for the original Supergirl?

IMDB has her playing Sylvia Danvers.

[FatherXmas]

Any Helen Slater in this series?

Just like they gave the original TV Flash a role in the new series, I was wondering if any love for the original Supergirl?

Yep, in the pilot Dean Cain and Helen Slater play Kara's Earth parents.  Stunt casting at it's finest.  Too bad they are on screen for 30 seconds.