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Battle of the Powersets #2
« on: March 29, 2015, 08:35:56 PM »
Invulnerability vs Willpower
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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 03:27:10 PM »
Invulnerability vs Willpower
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Willpower rocks!  Invulnerability, less so.

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 06:55:20 PM »
Invulnerability/Super Strength was my first build.  As much as I loved playing it, I came to prefer Willpower because it was easier to play due to its almost unrivaled endurance pool.

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 09:45:00 PM »
I'm not a huge melee fan, but I did use and like both of these sets. For me it's a bit of a draw, but I think I would have to pick Willpower of the two.

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 11:57:59 PM »
Again it all depends on how you build the sets and what IO enhancements you could use to improve both..

I have made both extremely strong.. I dont think one was better than the other.. I think WP was easier to deal with for most..

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2015, 01:40:13 AM »
While the defensive/resistance toggle powers of both sets were about equal, WP didn't have the problem with toggle crash in the middle of a fight due to lack of endurance to nearly the same degree that Invulnerability did.

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 03:18:23 PM »
While the defensive/resistance toggle powers of both sets were about equal, WP didn't have the problem with toggle crash in the middle of a fight due to lack of endurance to nearly the same degree that Invulnerability did.
pretty much this right here... most WP abilities were either passive or low drain, so you wouldn't suddenly find yourself in need of the blues while smack dab in the middle of a mob of anything. It is less a defnsive set than a self-buffing set.
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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2015, 04:05:29 PM »
Yep.  WP=nonstop mayhem....

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2015, 07:52:34 PM »
Invul.. now... always.. forever..

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2015, 08:22:45 PM »
Never tried WP but my main tank was invuln/ss. Slotting him was a mathematical nightmare, but once it was done he was virtually unkillable. The only drawback I had was very low energy/neg energy resistance. Basically, my tank could stand in front of Reichsman for days if he had to and never die, but he'd become the Faceplant King if he ever went to the Shadow Shard.
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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2015, 04:57:01 AM »
While the defensive/resistance toggle powers of both sets were about equal, WP didn't have the problem with toggle crash in the middle of a fight due to lack of endurance to nearly the same degree that Invulnerability did.

Proper slotting.. never run out of end.. Attacks drain more end than toggles.. Ive never had a toggle crash EVER in the middle of a fight on ANY set.. including Dark Armor when I ran 8-10 toggles

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2015, 06:57:16 AM »
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Had a Willpower Brute never regretted it, he was one tough SoB  :D Also had a Invul Tank which was fun but enjoyed the Brute more!

So Willpower for me.

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2015, 02:23:56 PM »
 Ill just say this.. an Inv Tank softcapped to S/L/E/N and capped resistance to S/L (the most common damage type in the game) with Perma Dull Pain is a thing of beauty to behold.. I tanked Psi AV's with him..
 
 Now as a counter argument a Willpower Tanks  softcapped to S/L/E/N while not having as much resistance as INV that can regen 141 HP per second is prett darn good as well..

 For me is a toss up.. playing both.. they both did very well.

 Willpower of course has less end issues because of Quick Recovery. However a well built toon can avoid any end issues.. If I can mitigate end issues on a Dark Armor/Stone Tank.. everything else is easy..

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2015, 02:04:34 AM »
Ill just say this.. an Inv Tank softcapped to S/L/E/N and capped resistance to S/L (the most common damage type in the game) with Perma Dull Pain is a thing of beauty to behold.. I tanked Psi AV's with him..
 
 Now as a counter argument a Willpower Tanks  softcapped to S/L/E/N while not having as much resistance as INV that can regen 141 HP per second is prett darn good as well..

 For me is a toss up.. playing both.. they both did very well.

 Willpower of course has less end issues because of Quick Recovery. However a well built toon can avoid any end issues.. If I can mitigate end issues on a Dark Armor/Stone Tank.. everything else is easy..

My inv/ss tank had endo issues if he was attacking alot, so it made me a better tank - I'd just taunt and stomp a lot to hold agro. Made me pay attention to the team to let them do the killing.
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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2015, 02:09:01 AM »
My inv/ss tank had endo issues if he was attacking alot, so it made me a better tank - I'd just taunt and stomp a lot to hold agro. Made me pay attention to the team to let them do the killing.

What always amazed me about this game was people would complain about their toggles draining end but they never seemed to realize that attacks drain more end than toggles.. yet many rarely slotted attacks with end redux..

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2015, 04:53:49 PM »
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You mean Regeneration vs. Willpower?  ;)

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2015, 12:57:09 AM »
Invul was absolutely worthless on scrappers (ended up unslotting and deleting several different characters after trying numerous builds) but great on tanks and somewhat for brutes.

I found willpower to be better than invul when surrounded by lots of foes that normally kill invul. But you also need some near softcap defense to get there.

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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2015, 03:26:31 AM »
I think the positive feedback on crash less nukes was going to lead to crash less t9 defensive powers for some sets, but that was mostly scuttlebutt.
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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2015, 03:27:24 AM »
accidental double post - carry on.
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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2015, 11:33:59 PM »
Ill just say this.. an Inv Tank softcapped to S/L/E/N and capped resistance to S/L (the most common damage type in the game) with Perma Dull Pain is a thing of beauty to behold.. I tanked Psi AV's with him..
 
 Now as a counter argument a Willpower Tanks  softcapped to S/L/E/N while not having as much resistance as INV that can regen 141 HP per second is prett darn good as well..

 For me is a toss up.. playing both.. they both did very well.

 Willpower of course has less end issues because of Quick Recovery. However a well built toon can avoid any end issues.. If I can mitigate end issues on a Dark Armor/Stone Tank.. everything else is easy..

Why not F/C?
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Re: Battle of the Powersets #2
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2015, 04:59:36 AM »
Why not F/C?

There were not many enemies with pure F/C damage in the game after level 35.