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Title: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on February 26, 2013, 03:45:03 PM
(https://cohtitan.com/img/paypal_help_guy.png) (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=ZVG63TNZFUX3Q)

Hey all, so funny story.  You know Guy Perfect, the guy who wrote Sentinel and Sentinel+, long-time contributor to the Titan Network?  Also one of the guys on the team that is allegedly working on creating a CoH client-compatible reverse-engineered server?  Well, he's moving to Texas!  Or at least he's trying to...

Texas or Bust! Wait, that was supposed to just be a saying...

Shortly after getting underway from Oregon, a cylinder head in his van cracked and he found himself homeless and transportationless, stranded.  The good news is that he managed to rent a U-Haul truck, he ditched his brick of a van, and is back on his way.  As I type this, he has stopped for the night in Lodi, California and will be back on the road tomorrow morning.  The bad news is that this unexpected turn of events has severely impacted his financial situation due to the added expenses of scrapping the van, renting the U-Haul (those things are REALLY expensive for long haul trips like that), gasoline, and once he gets to Texas, car rental until he can get set up and established.

That's where we come in.  Because of his significant contributions to the Titan Network and the City of Heroes community, I am hereby declaring now through the month of March Help Guy Move to Texas (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=ZVG63TNZFUX3Q) month!  What this means is that funds donated to the Titan Network now through March 31 will go to help Guy Perfect defray the unplanned expenses that he's incurred during this move and, once he arrives, keep a roof over his head and wheels under his--*ahem*--undercarriage for up to a few weeks once he gets there.

Okay, you've convinced me!  How can I help?

Easy!  If you have a few bucks to spare, click the button at the top of this post.  Or alternatively, go to our home page (http://cohtitan.com) and click on the "Help Guy Move to Texas!" PayPal button in the Support Our Friends section.  All of the billing information is handled securely by PayPal.  We don't see your billing info or your address.  Your donation will actually go through the Titan Network (we're not holding any back, promise!), and I will forward the donations to Guy where he can thank you appropriately.

Buy what makes Guy so special?

I normally don't like to solicit donations, but I'm making an extra special exception in this case for a few reasons:

In short, he's given a LOT of time and effort to the community over the years, and continues to do so even with the game shut down.  If you want to drop a quick thank you to the Titan Network, I can't think of a better way than by helping out one of its most dedicated contributors.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on February 26, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
Oy, am I weary. But hey, I'm finally back on the road! I had to tow that silly mini-van through the mountains of southern Oregon/northern California since it broke down on Sunday and the junkers happen to be closed on Sundays. But I finally got rid of it and the tow dolly, and swapped out for a smaller rental vehicle, so I'm good to get on the road today!

What sucks is all the money I put into it last week. Oil change, new battery, new tires, tire chains due to Oregon state law... The only thing I was allowed to salvage was the battery. And on top of that was the cost of the rental truck. )-:

I don't want to have to come to you guys and say "Hay gimme cashez!" but I'm honestly out of options. My van was going to be my transportation and a makeshift 24-square-foot apartment once I got to Texas, but it decided to jump ship shortly after the trip began. So hey, any help would be greatly appreciated!

And like Tony mentioned up there, and as I've alluded to a few times, um... Yeah, there certainly are rumors of a reverse-engineered City of Heroes implementation out there, aren't there? (-:
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mysterious J on February 26, 2013, 03:51:05 PM
Done.  And here's hoping for better luck, Guy.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Steele Magnolia on February 26, 2013, 05:02:36 PM
Done. Not much, just my pizza money but I hope it helps.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: DavidMadly on February 26, 2013, 05:22:15 PM
I'm in, as a way of saying thanks for all the work you've done & will do for the community.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Moggie on February 26, 2013, 05:44:56 PM
I may have some crash space for you. I need to get an ETA and some other details. Can you PM me?
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on February 26, 2013, 05:47:49 PM
You guys rock hard.  I can't tell you how much this is helping.  I mean, I could, and I'll probably try at some point, but I'm at work today and can't take too long writing a book of gratitude.  And I'm chatting with Guy as he gets ready to head out for the day to try to make it many hundreds of miles.  This is turning from an "Oh $*+!" experience into a "Hey, I think I'm going to make it!", and of course, it proves yet again just how awesome a community this is.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on February 26, 2013, 05:59:22 PM
Looks like the heroes didn't get shut down with Paragon City. Thanks guys. (-:

I'm getting ready to leave Lodi here, and I want to be in Barstow before I stop again. I'd go a little further, but it doesn't look like a lot between there and, like, Arizona. So I figure I get down to Barstow today, and head across the mountains tomorrow.

Moggie, I've sent you a PM. However, I won't be able to check my messages again for a few hours. Thanks for popping in!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: eabrace on February 26, 2013, 06:13:08 PM
If my house down in Fort Worth wasn't already rented out, I'm sure we could work out an agreement for a rent "discount", but my tenant's actually been pretty good.  That being said, I'll toss up a donation when I get home tonight. :)

Did you at least get to keep the chains for the van since they had that "return them if you don't use them before April 1" policy?

Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Triplash on February 26, 2013, 06:16:08 PM
And done. Thanks for all the hard work Guy! I hope things turn around quickly, and a month or two from now you can't believe how great it's all going! ;D
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kheprera on February 26, 2013, 07:03:46 PM
Done. Owe a lot to Guy. Get here safe! I've made that moving trip myself! Twice!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Electric-Knight on February 26, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
/joking (somewhat)
Oregon to Texas?? But... but... WHY???
Haha, don't answer that! ;D

/serious
I'm not in great shape here, but if I can manage to throw a bit into the pot, so be it!

I hope the rest of your move goes MUCH more smoothly!

I think your van breaking down at the beginning of a long trek and move is good luck, right?? Like rain on a wedding day or something... ;)


Best of luck to you, par'ner!


Oh, and done! I'm happy to chip in and help. Your services to us in the CoH community have been extremely appreciated!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Scrier on February 26, 2013, 08:21:16 PM
Like rain on a wedding day or something... ;)

No, that's just ironic.

Glad to see people rallying to the cause. I'll give when I'm able to, but that may be a little too late.
Title: Re: Help Guy Perfect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Lucretia MacEvil on February 26, 2013, 08:29:31 PM
... Oh my God, this community is awesome.

Gonna scrape up some $ when I get back from work. 

Good luck, Guy!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Captain Electric on February 26, 2013, 10:13:57 PM
Will hit the donate button when I get home in a few hours! Settling in the Dallas/Fort Worth area by chance? Atlantea also lives around here, not to out him or anything.  ;D
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Hejist on February 26, 2013, 11:07:50 PM
Been wondering for a while how to best thank you guys for ALL the work you've put in over yrs, and all the extra fun you added to CoH for me. Mid's, without doubt, was as big a part of CoH as the costume designer for me. Both of which I STILL have thanks to YOU (ooh welling up here  ???). Now seems like a good time say that thanks with meaning.

So here Guy, take this, TY and GL in the move.  ;)

@Ghostchase

Edit:After reading the internet cost, donated a bit more. And no Codewalker, you're wrong...it's you guys that rock!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: SerialBeggar on February 26, 2013, 11:25:37 PM
I've got 2 plots ;D of prime Texas desert wasteland 8) that I bought off ebay :roll: that you can camp out in if you're in the neighborhood.  One at Cochran County and one near Pecos.  All I have are GPS coordinates, though.  :P  If you're passing through, take some pictures for me.  I haven't seen them yet.   :roll:
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on February 26, 2013, 11:28:23 PM
Rockin'!  Thanks a ton, guys.  Like I said, I know this means a lot to Guy, but it also really encourages me to see such support from the community for one of our own!  Last I heard, Guy was in Fowler, but that was several hours ago.  I suspect that he'll reach Barstow in the next 30 to 60 minutes, where he'll probably check back in.  Then starting tomorrow comes the fun part of the trip: hours and hours of nothing but sand and cacti as he makes his way through Arizona. :)

One at Cochran County and one near Pecos.  All I have are GPS coordinates, though.  :P  If you're passing through, take some pictures for me.  I haven't seen them yet.   :roll:

I'd have to let him answer this for sure, but looking at the map, I think that Pecos is going to be way out of the way, and he'll only pass within about an hour of Cochran County.  He'll be out more in Eastern Texas, around the Fort Worth area.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Codewalker on February 26, 2013, 11:42:54 PM
You guys rock!

Guy is good peoples, I'm glad to see so many willing to help him.

With any luck he'll get where he's going without any more unpleasant surprises.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Local Man on February 27, 2013, 12:47:26 AM
Things are tight in the Local Man house, but I donated a few bucks to someone who spent so much time helping us.

Things should be much better in Texas than Oregon.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on February 27, 2013, 12:48:07 AM
Well I think I can pony up enough gas money to get you most of the way across Arizona.  I mean you did once say I had a turnip for a brain, but on the other hand, jeez, Arizona.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: eabrace on February 27, 2013, 01:13:47 AM
Well I think I can pony up enough gas money to get you most of the way across Arizona.  I mean you did once say I had a turnip for a brain, but on the other hand, jeez, Arizona.
But it's a hell of a turnip!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on February 27, 2013, 01:17:35 AM
Wowza, thanks a lot guys. Each donation in is a sigh of relief, and you guys are making me hyperventilate! (That joke made more sense in my head)

Did you at least get to keep the chains for the van since they had that "return them if you don't use them before April 1" policy?

I still have the chains, but there aren't any Les Schwabs in Texas. I'd easily spend the amount of the refund just shipping them back.

Settling in the Dallas/Fort Worth area by chance? Atlantea also lives around here, not to out him or anything.  ;D

That's precisely my destination. Well, North Richland Hills.

I suspect that he'll reach Barstow in the next 30 to 60 minutes, where he'll probably check back in.

Guilty as charged! Also, charged $3 for internet. Eesh.

To drivers in California: stop. Make the world a better place. There are these things called "traffic laws" and "following distance" (I'm totally not joking!), so it's a wonder so many of you were awarded licenses to drive. |-:

I mean you did once say I had a turnip for a brain, but on the other hand, jeez, Arizona.

That doesn't sound like me. I'm much more a raddish kind of person.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Philly Girl on February 27, 2013, 01:18:37 AM
I gave a lil bit as a ty for the sentinal + good luck with the move and hopefully one of the offers for a place to stay works out.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: therain93 on February 27, 2013, 01:39:17 AM
Made a donation -- I chalk it up as money I haven't given to NCsoft since December....jerks  (NCsoft, not titan folks! ; ' )
Best of luck in the move!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kheprera on February 27, 2013, 02:00:17 AM
Word of note: as of Jan 1st all toll roads are by mail. I am unsure how they'll send toll fees in a case like this, but if you can avoid the tollways, do so.

Watch small towns, because you know the DPS and local Sheriffs are watching you, with radar.

I'm in Austin, lived in Dallas and Richardson, have friends in Denton. Seeing if I can find you crash space.

FWIW: Reaper Miniatures (www.reapermini.com) is in Denton. Great group, some were CoH players. Gamer friends at the ready if you need a place to start.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: saipaman on February 27, 2013, 06:04:23 AM
Count me in for a donation.

I find great comfort in my Sentinel Plus files.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Captain Electric on February 27, 2013, 09:11:48 AM
I was going to spend that money on beer and hookers. But, well I guess since I'm a super hero, you can have it instead. As for crash space, it's unfortunate timing and I wouldn't be able to help in that department. Hopefully Moggie or Kheprera can pull some strings.

So, now there will be at least two City of Heroes people who live in my area! Anyone else here live around Dallas/Fort Worth? We could all have drinks or something. Coffee? Icecream? By the way, Kheprera mentioned Reaper Miniatures. There's also a Games Workshop not too far from North Richland Hills. Lots of great comic book shops around here too. And just in general, you can do a lot of cool things around Dallas on a budget.

Also, get ready and hold on tight, the area you're moving to has had earthquake tremors a few times in the past year. I've felt it three times. No joke! In Texas! I grew up here and have lived here most of my life, and never felt a tremor until several months ago. It was so weird! They have all been tiny and brief, like I'll feel my floor or chair "shrug" to and fro just once, and after a second, it's gone. Apparently Irving is the epicenter, right beneath me. And from what I've learned, it's due to fracking. Fracking! I know, right? What's Battlestar Galactica got to do with any of this? I don't know, man...I just don't know.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: eabrace on February 27, 2013, 01:43:45 PM
Anyone else here live around Dallas/Fort Worth?
I was there 1998 to 2008.  (As I've recently discovered, it turns out Codewalker was there during that time frame, too.)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: JaguarX on February 27, 2013, 03:47:16 PM
I was going to spend that money on beer and hookers. But, well I guess since I'm a super hero, you can have it instead. As for crash space, it's unfortunate timing and I wouldn't be able to help in that department. Hopefully Moggie or Kheprera can pull some strings.

So, now there will be at least two City of Heroes people who live in my area! Anyone else here live around Dallas/Fort Worth? We could all have drinks or something. Coffee? Icecream? By the way, Kheprera mentioned Reaper Miniatures. There's also a Games Workshop not too far from North Richland Hills. Lots of great comic book shops around here too. And just in general, you can do a lot of cool things around Dallas on a budget.

Also, get ready and hold on tight, the area you're moving to has had earthquake tremors a few times in the past year. I've felt it three times. No joke! In Texas! I grew up here and have lived here most of my life, and never felt a tremor until several months ago. It was so weird! They have all been tiny and brief, like I'll feel my floor or chair "shrug" to and fro just once, and after a second, it's gone. Apparently Irving is the epicenter, right beneath me. And from what I've learned, it's due to fracking. Fracking! I know, right? What's Battlestar Galactica got to do with any of this? I don't know, man...I just don't know.

Actually believe it or not, earthquakes happen many times in many places people dont think about. You are probably feeling an earthquake. They say Memphis, TN and other cities along the Mississippi river get earthquakes over 1000 times a year. Most are not noticable beyond the measuring equipment, others barely can be felt and not felt by the average person. April 2003 for example, a 4.9 hit the morth east part of GA all the way down and felt in downtown Atlanta. While a 4.9 is small, it shows that LA is not the only place that moves.


I'm in Texas by definition for tax and voting district purposes, but really it's Mexico. Good ol El Paso and Dallas is about a 10-12 hour drive depending on what side of Dallas. I'm closer to LA, three states over, than Dallas which is in the same state as ELP.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: blackjak on February 27, 2013, 05:05:40 PM
Actually believe it or not, earthquakes happen many times in many places people dont think about. You are probably feeling an earthquake. They say Memphis, TN and other cities along the Mississippi river get earthquakes over 1000 times a year. Most are not noticable beyond the measuring equipment, others barely can be felt and not felt by the average person. April 2003 for example, a 4.9 hit the morth east part of GA all the way down and felt in downtown Atlanta. While a 4.9 is small, it shows that LA is not the only place that moves.


I'm in Texas by definition for tax and voting district purposes, but really it's Mexico. Good ol El Paso and Dallas is about a 10-12 hour drive depending on what side of Dallas. I'm closer to LA, three states over, than Dallas which is in the same state as ELP.
Believe it or not, there is a major fault line along the Mississippi there. Legend around here says it made the Mississippi flow backwards once hundreds of years ago. Here in AR and (I believe) Ohio, we've gotten many more quakes in the central/northern area of the state. Non-fault ones, that is, and it is from natural gas well fracking. Strong enough ones to knock stuff off of shelves. My hypothesis, for here at least, is that that area is riddled with huge cavern systems (many are tourist attractions). I figure that these guys are fracking into unknown cavern systems and collapsing them. That would cause some seismic activity I'm sure, since I have been in two cavern that were 7+ stories high. They've probably ruined some treasures down there.

Oh yeah....I hope to scrape up some fundage for the pot. Hope things are still looking up for you, Guy.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Archiviste on February 27, 2013, 05:34:52 PM
Sent a few bucks your way, Guy (well, actually TonyV's and the Titan Network's way....).

Hope everything will turn out all right.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: eabrace on February 27, 2013, 05:38:39 PM
Believe it or not, there is a major fault line along the Mississippi there. Legend around here says it made the Mississippi flow backwards once hundreds of years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone

The amount of energy stored in that fault line will put anything out in CA to shame the next time it cuts loose.  Fortunately, that doesn't happen very often.  Unfortunately, the US Geological Survey thinks there's about a 10% chance that thing's going to slip again in the next 50 years - which could result in thousands of casualties in the Memphis area alone.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: atanman1104 on February 27, 2013, 05:39:19 PM
Donated some money to the cause; should be enough for about half a tank of gas and a decent meal.

But if you're headed through Phoenix, Guy, and you need a place to crash, I could send you my contact info. I've got a comfy couch (my guest bed is, uh, not at home - don't ask), plenty of food in the fridge, and a place to freshen up before hitting the road again.

Happy to help a fellow hero in need!

All the best,
Plas
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: no hero on February 27, 2013, 06:40:06 PM
Done... and to be Done again next month, too!
Safe travels fellow Hero.




I was going to spend that money on beer and hookers. But, well I guess since I'm a super hero, you can have it instead.
Mine was slotted for Red Bull and LEGOS.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on February 27, 2013, 08:21:54 PM
I was going to spend that money on beer and hookers.
If you insist on earmarking, I'm sure Guy would be willing to accommodate you.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Triplash on February 27, 2013, 08:41:55 PM
Red Bull and LEGOS.

The breakfast of champions! ;D
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: blackjak on February 27, 2013, 08:49:13 PM
The breakfast of champions! ;D
Good Gorilla Grodd!!! That combo is like whiskey and a mine field. Possibly more painful!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on February 27, 2013, 08:53:00 PM
Guywatch update, in case you're hoping to vicariously travel with him: He went through Needles, California an hour ago [insert clever reference to Snoopy's brother here] and is well into Arizona now.  I suspect he's passing through, or really close to, Kingman, AZ as I type this.  Still a couple of hours until Flagstaff, and he's hoping to make Gallup, NM by sundown.  I tried to talk him into taking a break and stopping at or at least driving through the Petrified Forest/Painted Desert national park; I went there back in 1997 and it was an awesome sight to behold, but he insists on sticking to the road and not stopping.

Thanks again a ton for all of the help, including the well-wishes.  I think it's really telling how well our community pulls together even now, three months after our game was shut down, that we can pull together like this and help one of our own.  And knowing Guy, I suspect that it will encourage him to redouble his hypothetical efforts on any alleged CoH client-compatible server that may or may not be under development.  Literally the last thing he typed to us before getting underway this morning was, "I want to give them their game back. (-:"  I've told him that I'm supporting him because of all of the help and work he's put in with us and that me pulling for him doesn't have any strings attached, but hey, I won't turn down side development benefits if he wants to even out the karma!  ;)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kuriositys Kat on February 27, 2013, 09:07:56 PM
And Done!  Safe travels, Guy.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Triplash on February 27, 2013, 09:20:56 PM
Good Gorilla Grodd!!! That combo is like whiskey and a mine field. Possibly more painful!

Well... I was just joking. You don't actually swallow the Red Bull. C'mon now.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: SerialBeggar on February 27, 2013, 10:50:34 PM
...and he's hoping to make Gallup, NM by sundown.

Ah, New Mexico.  I own a forested plot at Timberon, NM. 8)  Another eBay win.   :)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Angelus Animi on February 27, 2013, 11:27:35 PM
Done!  Sorry just finally saw this today.  Safe travels  :)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Fantastic Flying Red on February 28, 2013, 12:08:29 AM
Guy please check your PM.  I got you a room in Dallas/Irving.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kheprera on February 28, 2013, 12:22:55 AM
I'm not doing it to get my beloved game back, though that would be a bonus.

It really just falls into my plot of assembling the CoH community in one state for our eventual takeover!!!


Muahahaha!

Wait, did I say that out loud?   8)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kriiden on February 28, 2013, 01:05:39 AM
Guy please check your PM.  I got you a room in Dallas/Irving.

First thing: Wow.

Second thing:

Done. Only ten bucks, hopefully it helps. Good luck on your travels guy!

Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on February 28, 2013, 02:10:04 AM
Holy wowza, you guys are definitely helping on the financial front. Thanks not just one, but two tons!

I was going to spend that money on beer and hookers.

I was going to joke on this, but it seems others have beaten me to it. )-:

But if you're headed through Phoenix, Guy, and you need a place to crash, I could send you my contact info.

I really appreciate the offer, though I'm in New Mexico now. But still, thanks!

And knowing Guy, I suspect that it will encourage him to redouble his hypothetical efforts on any alleged CoH client-compatible server that may or may not be under development.

Darn you, *I* was going to say that tonight! I had this awesome spiel all worked up!

On an unrelated note (as far as you know), does anyone happen to have reeeeeally old "brawl index" numbers, like from the powers on... oh, let's just pick a completely random point in time... launch day? No reason, just... you know, there could be some things done with the launch numbers.

Guy please check your PM.  I got you a room in Dallas/Irving.

I got the message, and it sounds great. Though a week isn't much, it's certainly long enough to catch my breath and make other arrangements. I'm really hoping to be nearer North Richland Hills, but beggars can't be choosers. (-:
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Captain Electric on February 28, 2013, 03:20:58 AM
I'm really hoping to be nearer North Richland Hills, but beggars can't be choosers. (-:

It may actually be pretty close to the mark, depending on where the place in Dallas/Irving is. I was looking at Google Maps last night and it said North Richland Hills was 13 minutes away from Irving around Belt Line Road/Irving Mall/Esters Road (an area where several hotels are that is maybe halfway between North Richland Hills and downtown Dallas). In any case, I wouldn't stress about that first week: it doesn't take too long to get anywhere...unless you're stuck on 635/LBJ Fwy during rush hour. People complain about the highways sometimes around here, but there are always lots of options and "ways to get there" and I don't think they realize how good they have it! If you end up situated near Hwy 183, you're golden. That is like the magic highway. No matter where you're headed, even if it's downtown Dallas, you should be able to get there much faster than you'd expect.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on February 28, 2013, 03:30:20 AM
On an unrelated note (as far as you know), does anyone happen to have reeeeeally old "brawl index" numbers, like from the powers on... oh, let's just pick a completely random point in time... launch day? No reason, just... you know, there could be some things done with the launch numbers.
That's likely to be a research project.  The Brawl Index itself was incomplete deep into I2.

I do, however, have both Ian_of_Moore threads archived.  Shoot me an email or something and I can send those to you.  I also have a version of the Powers Quantification Thread, which has some scattered timing measurements for recharge and activation time.  This amused me reading the thread again:

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It is my question as to how your numbers, if so close to Prima's, show the real time and Prima is wrong. Would it not seem more likely that if your numbers were that close to theirs, that there is simply some aspect of the game your testing cannot measure? Or that there is a small % of error in your test that you cannot quantify without being on their server and seeing their numbers?

This was addressed kind of to me and kind of to TopDoc, in July of 2005.  And it only took about four years to discover the answer to the question.  We now know mine and TopDoc's and other testers were consistently in the realm of being 0.125s too high because of ArcanaTime.  Ironic because it wasn't an "aspect of the game testing cannot measure" but the reverse: an aspect of the game we all were measuring but couldn't explain.  Blast from the past.

Incidentally, the genesis of the Scale value replacement for Brawl Index numbers is iakona's damage table thread, and we all know where he got that from.  That was posted in February 2006.  It would be almost a year before scale values finally displaced brawl index for all but the last of the hold outs.  That thread might also be interesting to have since it has Iakona's posted values for most of the important tables, except of course there are other ways to get a complete picture of the game's state circa I6-I7.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Codewalker on February 28, 2013, 04:59:32 AM
Well I just dug out my copy of the launch client. The good news is that all of the attribute tables and modifier tables are present in classes.bin, though it seems that it wasn't for quite some time after that anyone knew what they meant.

The bad news is that there's no attribmod data clientside (which we already knew, because it first appeared shortly before real numbers were added circa I12). So a launch server would have the same problem that SEGS will eventually face -- recreating all of the power effects from scratch.

At least with the tables you can make an educated guess at the Scales. But yeah, you'll have to extrapolate from whatever information you can dig up in the forum archives. The basic power stats are present and can be gotten easily enough. It looks like the textparser has only changed in fairly minor ways since then, the structure format is quite similar to the ones that your XML schema tool is designed to extract.

Though it does look like all of the *.ms files are included (not even compiled into .bin format), with the contact and storyarc text. Since it's the source files it's even nicely broken down into contact and tasksets, making it slightly easier to figure out which text goes with which missions in order to re-create them.

Still, a lot of things look very similar, albeit more primitive. With our current level of knowledge about how the client works, we could probably rip its code apart in no time. But that's a secondary objective :)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: beveri8469 on February 28, 2013, 05:38:19 AM
i sent a few dollars your way. good luck with the move.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on February 28, 2013, 05:44:44 AM
still inside atlas park hospital waiting to leave

Heh, I like that!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Taceus Jiwede on February 28, 2013, 06:10:05 AM
Here you go Guy, some extra cash I had laying around.  Hope the rest of the trip continues unhindered.  Sorry for the delay, didn't see this until today.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: JanessaVR on February 28, 2013, 08:04:23 AM
Sent him $40.  Let me know what his financial situation is like at the end of the month.  I said before I was willing to financially support the private server development team, and I'll stand by that.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on February 28, 2013, 08:40:01 AM
Well I just dug out my copy of the launch client. The good news is that all of the attribute tables and modifier tables are present in classes.bin, though it seems that it wasn't for quite some time after that anyone knew what they meant.
Actually, I had the reverse problem.  I knew how scale values worked but didn't have access to the tables until Iakona came along, because I wasn't interested in pigg diving at the time.  But that's a long story.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Captain Electric on February 28, 2013, 08:58:31 AM
But that's a long story.

Am I the only person who was like, "Aww, I kind of like Arcana's stories..."  :D
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: MindBlender on February 28, 2013, 11:59:51 AM
Actually, I had the reverse problem.  I knew how scale values worked but didn't have access to the tables until Iakona came along, because I wasn't interested in pigg diving at the time.  But that's a long story.

I would be even more interested in a story about pigg diving.  Did something go so wrong on your last pigg dive?  :o
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Servantes on February 28, 2013, 02:49:00 PM
This guy abids, try not to spend it all in one place.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on February 28, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
This guy abids, try not to spend it all in one place.

O-:

You didn't accidentally add a 0 to the end of that, did you?
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Servantes on February 28, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
O-:

You didn't accidentally add a 0 to the end of that, did you?

Nope I sent with intent, enjoy.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on February 28, 2013, 03:43:50 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=factoryjoe.s3.amazonaws.com%2Femoticons%2Femoticon-0134-bear.gif)

Today's trip leads us to Childress, TX. Then I'll nearly be there!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Lightslinger on February 28, 2013, 04:05:06 PM
Things are tight here too but as soon as I can in March I'll be sending something your way Guy. Thanks for all you've done for our game (and it's hopefully not too far away future). You're one of CoH's real heroes, thanks man and good luck.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Heroette on February 28, 2013, 04:26:30 PM
I donated what I could.  Good luck in Texas!!!!  I hope all goes well.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on February 28, 2013, 04:27:20 PM
So quick update: Once Guy gets to Texas, he's going to have to arrange for transportation.  In the immediate future, that means he'll probably rent a car to get around for a few days.  In the longer term, though, he's going to be looking for a cheap car or, per his preference, a minivan (in his words, "it provides storage, transportation AND shelter") to buy.  If you live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and have a vehicle or know someone who has a vehicle that they're looking to unload, let us know!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: JaguarX on February 28, 2013, 04:50:15 PM
So quick update: Once Guy gets to Texas, he's going to have to arrange for transportation.  In the immediate future, that means he'll probably rent a car to get around for a few days.  In the longer term, though, he's going to be looking for a cheap car or, per his preference, a minivan (in his words, "it provides storage, transportation AND shelter") to buy.  If you live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and have a vehicle or know someone who has a vehicle that they're looking to unload, let us know!
did he specify a price range? There are many vans in the Dallas area but cheap is a relative term.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on February 28, 2013, 05:09:12 PM
did he specify a price range? There are many vans in the Dallas area but cheap is a relative term.

No, other than specifying that he's looking for a minvan, he hasn't really said much about price or other preferences. But you know, I suspect the cheaper, the better.  Knowing Guy, he won't be too picky.  He's just looking to get by as cheaply as he can.  Here's a snippet of actual conversation from Tuesday:

Quote from: TonyV
What about hookers and cocaine?  You probably haven't even thought out how much hookers and cocaine costs in planning your budget.
Quote from: Guy Perfect
I can do without that for now.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: JaguarX on February 28, 2013, 05:27:17 PM
No, other than specifying that he's looking for a minvan, he hasn't really said much about price or other preferences. But you know, I suspect the cheaper, the better.  Knowing Guy, he won't be too picky.  He's just looking to get by as cheaply as he can.  Here's a snippet of actual conversation from Tuesday:
lol in repards to the conversation.


Alright, I'll keep a look out on some good minivans he can check out.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: blackjak on February 28, 2013, 05:36:12 PM
Yeah...I rock 2 minivans. It's good in case you get kicked out and have to live in it....down by the river... ;D
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on February 28, 2013, 05:50:28 PM
Quote from: TonyV

    What about hookers and cocaine?  You probably haven't even thought out how much hookers and cocaine costs in planning your budget.

Quote from: Guy Perfect

    I can do without that for now.
Are you certain Guy wasn't saying he could do without planning a budget?
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Triplash on February 28, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Are you certain Guy wasn't saying he could do without planning a budget?

To be fair, it is difficult to fit those two items into a detailed budget. I mean which one is recreation and which one is office supplies? Can you claim a portion on your taxes? Nono, it's much easier to just lump them under miscellaneous household expenses and be done with it.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kriiden on February 28, 2013, 06:48:43 PM
This is what I love about this community. 3 months after our game is gone, we can still ban together to help each other out.

We are heroes, this is what we do.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on February 28, 2013, 07:56:30 PM
This is what I love about this community. 3 months after our game is gone, we can still ban together to help each other out.
Was Guy banned from Oregon?  I thought he was just looking for a change of scenery.  Although that actually seems more likely now that you mention it.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Electric-Knight on February 28, 2013, 08:30:08 PM
Wait a minute...
I was misled by the thread's title!
I thought we were helping Guy Pefect... not GuyPerfect!!

Can I get my money back? I need a new pack of gum!

(Hehe, happy trails and safe travels, GP!)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on February 28, 2013, 08:55:35 PM
Chipped in. Can't believe what happened to you :-( Have a safe travel. You're courageous to move on your own with just a van.

Enjoy some european euros.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Ironwolf on March 01, 2013, 02:01:18 AM
I sent money and I also want to say State farm Insurance is building a HUGE office in Dallas - and they need EVERYTHING - just saying.

Not like I am a system admin for some insurance company or anything.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 01, 2013, 02:39:31 AM
Okay, I'm in Childress and sacking out for the night. My bottom is sore from sitting!

did he specify a price range? There are many vans in the Dallas area but cheap is a relative term.

With the money Tony sent me and the money PayPal lets him take out of the Titan account each month, I'm gonna be kind of pinched for cash. It'll be there, but the flow is restricted enough that I can't make any hefty purchases all at once. Then again, it also means I get a sort of monthly allowance.

What I think would be best in the short term is if I can get in contact with someone in the area, and "rent" a vehicle from them. If someone has a car or mini-van they're not using or could let me use, I can pay something like $50 a week for the time I'm using it. Buuuuut, that would require someone nearby with a spare vehicle.

I'd like to make it clear that I don't necessarily need a mini-van. Any kind of car will do, and I can rent some self-storage to put my stuff in if I need to. If I have transportation, that's really what can get me the things that I need.

Was Guy banned from Oregon?  I thought he was just looking for a change of scenery.

1) Oregon was banned from me. Whatchoo talkin' 'bout?

2) I have a contact down in North Richland Hills whom I'll be working with doing churchy stuff. For what it's worth, Oregon is much more scenic. (-:
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kriiden on March 01, 2013, 04:44:21 AM
Was Guy banned from Oregon?  I thought he was just looking for a change of scenery.  Although that actually seems more likely now that you mention it.

It took more then 24 hours to understand the fact that this was a joke and a play on words.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Rejuvenatrix on March 01, 2013, 06:40:34 AM
Hey Guy, have sent a small token of my appreciation for all you have done for us.  Thanks for all your dedicated work.  I hope the rough patch is behind you now. Good luck with your new endeavors!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on March 01, 2013, 10:17:13 PM
It took more then 24 hours to understand the fact that this was a joke and a play on words.
It was the typo's fault, I saw it !
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 01, 2013, 10:21:14 PM
Here I am! North Richland Hills, and on a path that didn't have any construction. *Party hat*

I've booked into a hotel for today and tomorrow. My mind is shifting from "get there" mode to "okay, now what" mode. I still need transportation, and I still need a place to stay (though not as much as I need transportation). I'm waiting to hear back from corbis820 about his brother in Irving.

I also just found out a few minutes ago that an entity up in Portland wants some money that I thought was taken care of by another source. But that's not urgent unless they want to come down here to Texas to find me. (-:

So I thank everyone for the donations, and I hope I can continue thanking for donations! And if anyone has any leads on any front(s), please let me know.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Taceus Jiwede on March 02, 2013, 01:35:03 AM
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I also just found out a few minutes ago that an entity up in Portland wants some money that I thought was taken care of by another source. But that's not urgent unless they want to come down here to Texas to find me. (-:

Collections?  Tell em to get in line.  That's what I have always done :P
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kriiden on March 02, 2013, 04:36:58 AM
It was the typo's fault, I saw it !

Sorry to derail the topic Guy,  but...what typo? I've looked over it, didn't see anything wrong...

Back on topic: Excellent to hear Guy! I'd send you moar moniez, but I'm sort of broke (damn you 20 % off at gamestop...)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Aggelakis on March 02, 2013, 04:54:19 AM
Sorry to derail the topic Guy,  but...what typo? I've looked over it, didn't see anything wrong...
... we can still ban together to help each other out. ...
The word you were looking for is "band".
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kriiden on March 02, 2013, 07:28:27 AM
The word you were looking for is "band".

Thought that might be the word, but when I looked up usage for it, it seemed OK.


Then again, I used a google search with a phrase. Prolly not the smartest idea.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 02, 2013, 03:20:27 PM
Just to let you guys know, I'm strongly considering getting an apartment here in town in the next couple of days, then finding a job within walking/biking distance. The rent down here is dirt cheap, and the quality of the apartments is astronomically high. There's a place not even a mile from my contact, and I'm thinking I'll hit them up today.

With the money I already had, the money TonyV sent me and the money all you guys donated (and the price this place is asking), I can already pay for like three or four months rent just with what's already available to me. This is looking like a VERY good option, and it's better than trying to surf couches or hammer out the details of getting a car in Texas (Eabrace told me about the inspections that they require).

I'll keep you guys updated with how exactly everything pans out. But I want you to know that it's looking like I'll have things taken care of, and it'll be taken care of because of how awesome you guys have been. (-:
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Triplash on March 02, 2013, 06:34:06 PM
I'll keep you guys updated with how exactly everything pans out. But I want you to know that it's looking like I'll have things taken care of, and it'll be taken care of because of how awesome you guys have been. (-:

We got your back, Jack. Glad to hear things are looking better!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Nitra on March 02, 2013, 09:51:11 PM
For all things you have done and will to continue to do to make things better for us... thanks guy and here is a small token to help you out!

Nitra
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: SerialBeggar on March 02, 2013, 11:46:59 PM
The rent down here is dirt cheap, and the quality of the apartments is astronomically high.

Just curious, what's the going rate there that it seems cheap to you? 

I've never had to pay rent (outside of the game  ;) ) and the NYC tenement that our family lived in for the first couple of decades was rent controlled, so my perception is a bit distorted.  All I know is that for a little more, I'd rather put the money into a mortgage to build equity. 
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Moonfyire101 on March 03, 2013, 02:51:08 AM
If i can get some hrs at work sometime soon i'd be happy tp donate, especially with all that everyone has done for me....i just havnt worked since my dad and johnny died and they hired ppl while i was away so nothing now...
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on March 03, 2013, 07:51:58 AM
Just to let you guys know, I'm strongly considering getting an apartment here in town in the next couple of days, then finding a job within walking/biking distance. The rent down here is dirt cheap, and the quality of the apartments is astronomically high. There's a place not even a mile from my contact, and I'm thinking I'll hit them up today.

With the money I already had, the money TonyV sent me and the money all you guys donated (and the price this place is asking), I can already pay for like three or four months rent just with what's already available to me. This is looking like a VERY good option, and it's better than trying to surf couches or hammer out the details of getting a car in Texas (Eabrace told me about the inspections that they require).
While internet is naught compared to rent, don't forget food, or you'll soon be a macabre decoration in this somptuous apartment of yours.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 03, 2013, 02:15:07 PM
Just curious, what's the going rate there that it seems cheap to you?

I'm looking at $590/mo for 600 square feet. For my last apartment, in Lakewood, Washington, I paid $750/mo for a smaller unit and I was only paying for half.

However, the place is still occupied for two weeks. Howeverever, there are some similarly inexpensive extended-stay places right around here where I can stay by the week, which will definitely do the trick for putting my body somewhere. All made possible by the generous donations of viewers like you!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: blackjak on March 03, 2013, 02:47:41 PM
Yeah. Property is way cheaper here in the south compared to the coasts. Same money for a 2 bedroom ranch style in cali buys you a friggin' faux mansion in the south.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kistulot on March 03, 2013, 06:44:56 PM
I don't have the money to contribute, but I hope that everything works out for you!
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 05, 2013, 03:40:37 AM
Quick update here... I've got a U-Haul cargo van for three weeks, and I checked into a Studio 6 for a week. I have received all of your awesome donation money too!

But I still need a place to live. And a thing to drive. And preferably, a job to work at. But fortunately, I have some time to get on those things. It's no longer a matter of getting by day to day.

Still! If anyone should happen across a potential opportunity, lemme know.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on March 05, 2013, 08:18:52 AM
Quick update here... I've got a U-Haul cargo van for three weeks, and I checked into a Studio 6 for a week. I have received all of your awesome donation money too!

But I still need a place to live. And a thing to drive. And preferably, a job to work at. But fortunately, I have some time to get on those things. It's no longer a matter of getting by day to day.

Still! If anyone should happen across a potential opportunity, lemme know.
I know someone that's heading to the mainland shortly that I could ask.  Unfortunately, they are actually heading to Oregon.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: SerialBeggar on March 05, 2013, 02:30:49 PM
But I still need a place to live. And a thing to drive. And preferably, a job to work at.

I saw a post at Woot!.com regarding their recruitment page and I see that they have some positions in Dallas, including for a SQL DBA Developer. (http://www.woot.com/jobs#sql-dba-developer)  Is that something you can pass that time with?
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: JanessaVR on March 05, 2013, 06:31:14 PM
I saw a post at Woot!.com regarding their recruitment page and I see that they have some positions in Dallas, including for a SQL DBA Developer. (http://www.woot.com/jobs#sql-dba-developer)  Is that something you can pass that time with?
Heh, that's my day job.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Lightslinger on March 07, 2013, 06:19:16 PM
Hey, here's some opportunities you AND us  ;)

http://us.ncsoft.com/en/jobs/ (http://us.ncsoft.com/en/jobs/)

Don't hurt me...

NCsoft Austin has 8 positions open. Would be handy to have a guy on the inside...near that sweet CoH code...

just sayin', don't shoot me.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on March 08, 2013, 03:49:52 AM
Hey, here's some opportunities you AND us  ;)

http://us.ncsoft.com/en/jobs/ (http://us.ncsoft.com/en/jobs/)

Don't hurt me...

NCsoft Austin has 8 positions open. Would be handy to have a guy on the inside...near that sweet CoH code...

just sayin', don't shoot me.

I like the way you think.  ;)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on March 08, 2013, 09:43:25 PM
Hey, here's some opportunities you AND us  ;)

http://us.ncsoft.com/en/jobs/ (http://us.ncsoft.com/en/jobs/)

Don't hurt me...

NCsoft Austin has 8 positions open. Would be handy to have a guy on the inside...near that sweet CoH code...

just sayin', don't shoot me.
Weren't the NCSoft US reviews on the glass site I don't remember its name (about giving reviews of your job) weren't so good, so I wouldn't wish anybody inside the demon's lair. Though a mole would be very useful indeed.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: JaguarX on March 08, 2013, 09:47:47 PM
Weren't the NCSoft US reviews on the glass site I don't remember its name (about giving reviews of your job) weren't so good, so I wouldn't wish anybody inside the demon's lair. Though a mole would be very useful indeed.
yeah pretty bad reviews abotu upper management. But then again, they are from former employees and usually probably not the most non-biased source. Alot of ex-employees dont think too favorable of their ex-employer, especially if they get terminated. Or else they probably wouldnt have left.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on March 08, 2013, 09:52:14 PM
yeah pretty bad reviews abotu upper management. But then again, they are from former employees and usually probably not the most non-biased source. Alot of ex-employees dont think too favorable of their ex-employer, especially if they get terminated. Or else they probably wouldnt have left.
Wether the situation is very bad, or it is not.
If it is not, then why so many bad reviews and so few good ones ?
If it is bad, then those who stay must be strong or desperate, so they won't speak up either.

A pile of bad reviews are more propably generated by bad management, than if everything was happy and shiny.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: JaguarX on March 08, 2013, 10:26:37 PM
Wether the situation is very bad, or it is not.
If it is not, then why so many bad reviews and so few good ones ?

Well people are more inclined and quick to write bad reviews than positive one. The bad ones doesnt seem to be many if any current employees.


If it is bad, then those who stay must be strong or desperate, so they won't speak up either.

Yeah. or some of them may actually like they job. I'm sure they have more employees than the ones that wrote a review negative or positive. The situation may be terrible and many of them just didnt write a review just as many may love their job and didnt write a review. But if those bad reviews are taken to be absolute truth then it would probably mean they are still the minority of the employees and thus might be the minority feeling overall. People who are angry tend to speak out more and louder than those that are content especially after being terminated or leaving ex-employer because they didnt like it there.

All I'm saying is there is two sides to every story and one side mostly made from ex-employees are probably not the most un-biased source. What they say may be absolutely true. It's like asking ex-military that have been booted what they think about the army, and many will be pissed and speak negative. Does this mean that the army is terrible to it's employees? Maybe. But that judgement probably cant be made asking a group that probably naturally wont have nice thigns to say about them given the situation. Or it's like asking someone that got banned from here how is Titan Network and they speak bad about Titan if someone asked them how is it over there. Should i take their negative view as that is how it really is? In their eyes what they speak is truth but overall it's probably not an un-biased view.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: eabrace on March 09, 2013, 12:31:08 AM
the glass site I don't remember its name
glassdoor.com (http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/NCsoft-Reviews-E23242.htm)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on March 09, 2013, 02:34:05 AM
Well people are more inclined and quick to write bad reviews than positive one. The bad ones doesnt seem to be many if any current employees.

What struck me wasn't that the reviews were mostly negative.  I agree with you on that point--the people who left reviews were a self-selected group that, for the most part, had an ax to grind.  What struck me, though, was that most of the complaints had a very similar theme to them.  I can't just discount that as chance.

What also really struck me is that there was one glowing review posted a month or so before the announcement that City of Heroes was being shut down and Paragon Studios closed.  It was posted from an employee in Mountain View, California.  There's only one NCsoft subsidiary that I know of that was open at that time in Mountain View.  That's right, one poor schmuck posted a glowing review of how cool NCsoft was to work for, and a month later, got laid off.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TimtheEnchanter on March 09, 2013, 03:30:32 AM
That little "expansion" debacle with Arenanet seems to mirror the glassdoor complaints quite nicely as well.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Victoria Victrix on March 09, 2013, 03:56:48 AM
Pitched in a bit.

Little enough considering I have my girls in digital archive.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: JaguarX on March 09, 2013, 07:26:42 AM
That little "expansion" debacle with Arenanet seems to mirror the glassdoor complaints quite nicely as well.

Touche.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Lightslinger on March 09, 2013, 08:05:23 PM
Yeah, working for NCsoft probably sucks. Hey, as long as Guy could stick it out long enough to get back on his feet and find a better job grab that server code, that's all we really need.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Victoria Victrix on March 09, 2013, 11:55:19 PM
Can we have a Guy update please?
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 10, 2013, 03:49:43 PM
Guy will be purchasing another week in Studio 6, and is still waiting to hear back on apartment criteria regarding a lease prior to employment. The place was bought by a different management company, like, a month ago, and prior to that they didn't allow unemployed leases at all. So they're cross-checking the policy with the management company to see exactly what needs to be done. The unit in question will become available this Saturday.

Guy also received an extremely generous donation in an amount sufficient for purchasing a vehicle. If all goes well, the apartment will be sorted out by tomorrow, and the auto later this week.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on March 11, 2013, 06:25:11 PM
There you go!  I would have responded earlier, but I was knee-deep in Neverwinter beta this weekend.  :)

I want to emphasize again that I can't tell you all how much I appreciate the donations, even though I'm not the one getting them.  Our little corner of the Internet has really gotten to feel like a family, and as weird as it sounds, I genuinely care about these folks.  I don't like going to the "Hey everyone, throw money at us!" well, and I probably wouldn't have if I didn't know how much time and effort Guy has put into the Titan Network, and how much he's continuing to put into helping even now.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Kheprera on March 13, 2013, 03:03:55 AM
Agreed, Tony. Everyone here is family.  I've donated what I can even though my own finances are shakey. As I see it, at least I have a roof over my head, food in my kids' stomachs, and a (so far) stable job.

Someday I'll have a working computer again, and maybe will find the heart to finish my stories. Until then, I'll appreciate you all and show support as best I can, and will donate when and where I can.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: beveri8469 on March 13, 2013, 03:15:26 AM
i agree. titan is my home now. and am looking forward to MWM when they release the game. also watching the H&V site too.
i enjoying these forums as much as i did the coh forums all the time.
just wish coh was back, so this little corner of Ga could get back to normal. lol
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 15, 2013, 03:15:19 AM
This is what you guys just paid for. It's $605/mo:

The floor plan, called "The Florence", since I guess it kinda sounds like "floor":
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/TheFlorence_zps255c697a.jpg)

Upon entering, we see the living area:
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Living1_zps99df4f68.jpg)

It's dark out there, but you can see the storage closet:
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/DarkPatio_zps8b88a5aa.jpg)

The flash from the camera is throwing off the balance, but this is the bedroom:
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Bedroom1_zps295b1189.jpg)
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Bedroom2_zps1f89e906.jpg)
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Bedroom3_zpsa25cca34.jpg)
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Bedroom4_zpse16bb7f9.jpg)

The closet is rather roomy:
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Closet1_zpsf2efa00f.jpg)
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Closet2_zpsd447d21b.jpg)
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Closet3_zps7acae30e.jpg)

The water fixtures in the bathroom need work, but it's a good size:
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Bathroom1_zps5acb587d.jpg)
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Bathroom2_zpse6a9972f.jpg)

The holy grail of apartment living: laundry machines right there in the unit!
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Laundry_zps10e1ce53.jpg)

The kitchen is also fairly well configured:
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Kitchen1_zps813970ed.jpg)
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Kitchen2_zps759d19ab.jpg)
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Kitchen3_zps83c6dcaf.jpg)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Heroette on March 15, 2013, 04:10:18 AM
Congratulations on the new apartment!!!!  Looks like its nice (and functional).
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: beveri8469 on March 15, 2013, 04:47:27 AM
congrats on new place. looks nice
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on March 15, 2013, 05:55:07 AM
(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/bgng/Compartment/Bedroom4_zpse16bb7f9.jpg)
Ah, the Monty Haul suite.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: eabrace on March 15, 2013, 07:13:21 AM
Ah, the Monty Haul suite.
And suddenly all of the discussions of the Monty Hall problem I've watched Guy and Tony have over the years are brought into focus.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: FatherXmas on March 15, 2013, 07:17:11 AM
Reminds me of my first apartment but without the 20 ft ceilings and windows (it was in a converted textile mill).

And what a lovely beige.  :roll:
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Aggelakis on March 15, 2013, 07:23:25 AM
And suddenly all of the discussions of the Monty Hall problem I've watched Guy and Tony have over the years are brought into focus.
I had to immediately go searching for this oldie but goodie.
http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,4187.0.html
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: eabrace on March 15, 2013, 10:41:33 AM
I had to immediately go searching for this oldie but goodie.

Man, was it that long ago?  I feel old.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 15, 2013, 01:43:20 PM
And suddenly all of the discussions of the Monty Hall problem I've watched Guy and Tony have over the years are brought into focus.
According to Tony, then after the first door is eliminated, the likelihood of the laundry units being behind the door I selected decreases. (-:
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: eabrace on March 15, 2013, 02:21:35 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=weknowmemes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fnot-listening-otter-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on March 15, 2013, 03:24:44 PM
The only relevant post is this one (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,4187.msg38969.html#msg38969), in which everyone except Guy agreed that I was right.  I even wrote a little program that exactly duplicates the steps I outlined, and it demonstrated beyond any shadow of a doubt that I was right.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: eabrace on March 15, 2013, 04:11:55 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=weknowmemes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fnot-listening-otter-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Aggelakis on March 15, 2013, 06:21:34 PM
Good idea.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=weknowmemes.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fnot-listening-otter-meme.jpg)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Captain Electric on March 16, 2013, 04:35:20 AM
I just wasted valuable time and brain space reading through that entire argument. Wow. Wow.

Seriously? I mean, come on.

The best option is obviously the goat door that has already been opened.

Also, it's obvious that changing observational data causes the scenario to evolve from a 1/3 chance to a 1/2 chance.

Observational data is everything when it comes to quantum mechanics.  :P
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on March 20, 2013, 01:48:49 AM
That game is a classic example of people misapplying probability.  It happens all the time, but rarely with something so pernicious.  The fundamental issue from a mathematical perspective is that Monty Hall is not making a statistically independent choice.  Which means his opening one door is not a statistical change, its a magician's force.

Since Monty *knows* which door has the prize, his opening one of them is a red herring.  He can always do that no matter what, so doing so doesn't add any information to the situation.

Here's one way I've explained that problem to others.  Suppose its three boxes instead of three doors.  And suppose you pick one.  Now Monty asks if you want to switch: you can keep your box or take *both* of the other two boxes.  Switching is obviously the better choice because you get two shots instead of one.  Now suppose Monty takes both boxes into another room and then comes back out with one of the boxes.  He asks again: switch or stick.  Its still obviously better to switch.  And now he shows you the box he brought out is empty.  That changes nothing.

If it still seems like opening that box changes things, lets try again: this time there are one million boxes.  And you get to pick one.  Now Monty takes the other 999,999 boxes into another room and then asks: keep the one, or switch to the other 999,999.    Of course you're taking the other 999,999.  Now he goes back into the room, comes back out with one box, opens it, and says "keep or switch?"  Its obvious that he can do that at least 999,998 times, but no matter how many times he does that it should not affect your choice.  You should switch.  The fact that Monty can show you a bunch of open boxes is irrelevant: he can always do that because there's 999,999 empty boxes and he has at least 999,998 of them.

Still not convinced?  Ok.  Still one million boxes.  You pick one.  Now Monty takes the other 999,999 into another room.  Once there, he tells you all the boxes in the other room have magically vaporized.  In that room is either a prize, or nothing.  Do you keep your one box, or pick the room that contained the other 999,999?

Isn't it obvious that there's an overwhelming chance the prize was in one of the boxes that Monty took into the room, and whether some of the boxes are opened, removed, or vaporize into thin air changes nothing?

Last thing: imagine this game being played with one catch.  The game is being executed by Penn and Teller, not Monty Hall.  And while you can't see inside the boxes the audience can.  Since the audience can see inside the boxes, they can obviously see that the odds you picked the correct box was one in three, and everything that happens after that point is just misdirection.  It doesn't change anything from their point of view.

In a sense, the game is over the moment you make your first pick.  The audience immediately knows if you win or lose.  And the audience, watching game after game, knows its better to switch.  Everything else, including when someone opens a box, is irrelevant to them. 

But the game can't be different just because an observer that isn't involved with the game in any way has x-ray vision.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Rotten Luck on March 20, 2013, 03:55:21 AM
The Myth busters tested this one as well.  Forgot what episode it was on, however they did a side by side test run of switching and non-switching.  Sure enough the one that switched won more times.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 20, 2013, 03:27:44 PM
The problem can be demonstrated with two simple observations:

* If you pick the "right" door first, then one of the wrong doors is eliminated, and switching means you'll pick the other wrong door.
* If you pick a "wrong" door first, then the other wrong door is eliminated, and switching means you'll pick the right door.

Basically, the "pick then switch" strategy fails if and only if you select the "right" door first. And there's only a 1/3 chance of that happening, so it is therefore the most advantageous approach.

The issue that occurred in conversation is that every single time Tony presented the scenario, he did so in the context of, as an example, "door number three". At the beginning of the game, door number 3 either has the good prize behind it or it doesn't. That doesn't change whether I select a different door, one of the doors is eliminated, Monty or the audience knows which is the right door, what Donald Trump had for breakfast, or anything. The prize doesn't move, so the likelihood of it being behind door number three never changes.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on March 20, 2013, 04:22:19 PM
Okay, I defy anyone to read the above and try to justify it, how the scenario I presented or the context in which the question was asked makes any difference whatsoever to the correct final answer, which is that you should switch doors.  Again, here is an exact transcript of the scenario I presented, just to make sure it's not taken out of context:

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TonyV: Well, here's the set up.  You're on Let's Make a Deal with Monty Hall.  He gives you a choice of three doors to pick.  Behind two of them are "goat" prizes--worthless stuff you don't want.  Behind one door is something really nice worth a lot. So you pick a door.  Go ahead, pick a door.  Which one do you want?  Door number one, door number two, or door number three?

Guy Perfect: Let's go with door number one.

TonyV: Okay, now Monty, like me, knows which door the prize is behind.  But like any good showman, he wants to build up the drama and suspense. So when you pick door number one, he says, "Okay, let's open up one of the other doors first.  How about we see what's behind...  Door number two!" Obviously, he's going to open up one of the goat doors. So now there are two doors left.  Monty says, "Okay Guy, I'll tell you what.  Are you still feeling good about door number one?  Because if you want, I'll let you change your mind and go with door number three.  Of course, if you like door number one, you are more than welcome to stick with that one." The question is, statistically speaking, if you want to win the nice prize, should you stay with door number one, or switch to door number three?  Or does it make a difference?

Because it sounds to me like what Guy is saying that in the abstract, the probability is 1/3 for the door you choose and 2/3 for the door you didn't, but that since I gave him a concrete example with actual doors and an actual prize instead of just asking about it in the abstract, the probability for some weird reason breaks down to 50/50.  It's kind of like saying, "Hypothetically speaking, if there were a meteor in this spot out beyond Neptune and travelling in that direction at that speed, the odds that it would hit the earth on its next pass are 0.0000179%," but then if there were an actual meteor there, the odds would suddenly be 50/50 because either the meteor will hit the earth or it won't.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Blondeshell on March 20, 2013, 04:31:06 PM
Soooooooo, Guy, have you put any furniture in your place yet, or are you just camping out on the floor?

</threadjackjack>

 ;D
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Codewalker on March 20, 2013, 06:08:17 PM
He said something a few days ago about 'inflating the mattress', so I think he has a bed at least. As someone who slept on an airbed for around 2 years I can attest that the modern generation of them are not only affordable, but actually really nice, resilient, and surprisingly comfortable.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 20, 2013, 06:46:14 PM
It's a Select Comfort Sleep Number. Of course it's comfortable!

I went to ye olde thrift store a few days ago to buy a couple of folding chairs and something to put my monitor, keyboard and mouse on. Sitting on the floor to use the computer is quite uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on March 20, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
The problem can be demonstrated with two simple observations:

* If you pick the "right" door first, then one of the wrong doors is eliminated, and switching means you'll pick the other wrong door.
* If you pick a "wrong" door first, then the other wrong door is eliminated, and switching means you'll pick the right door.

Basically, the "pick then switch" strategy fails if and only if you select the "right" door first. And there's only a 1/3 chance of that happening, so it is therefore the most advantageous approach.

The issue that occurred in conversation is that every single time Tony presented the scenario, he did so in the context of, as an example, "door number three". At the beginning of the game, door number 3 either has the good prize behind it or it doesn't. That doesn't change whether I select a different door, one of the doors is eliminated, Monty or the audience knows which is the right door, what Donald Trump had for breakfast, or anything. The prize doesn't move, so the likelihood of it being behind door number three never changes.

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The question Tony kept asking, though, is after the first selection was made and two doors remained, "Which of the remaining doors is the better choice?" What this does is funnel down the scenario to the context of two doors, behind one of which is a prize. That means 1/2 chance for either door, and in fact you can flip a coin and be just as likely to pick the prize either way. (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,4187.msg38964.html#msg38964)

Suppose someone starts playing the game, and gets to the point of Monty asking if they want to switch.  At that point another person is led into the studio, and independently asked which box they want to pick.  With no other information, that person would be forced to conclude the choice is 50/50.  But if they were watching the game up to that point, then asked to pick one of the two boxes without having initially participated in the game, the information available would compel that person to pick Monty's box, for the same reason the first player should switch.  The odds are only 50/50 if you know nothing about how the game evolved to that state.  But if you know, it doesn't matter how the choice is presented.

The initial pick itself is also a smoke screen.  Imagine a game where Monty Hall puts a prize in one box, mixes that box up with two other boxes, then divides the boxes up into two groups: one box to the left, two boxes to the right, randomly.  Then Monty Hall looks inside the two boxes, and opens an empty box.  Now which group do you pick: the left or the right.  Answer: the right.  The initial pick, the switching choice, and Monty opening empty boxes are all distraction.  There's only one statistically important fact: the left side has one in three chances of having the prize and the right side has two out of three.  No matter when you're given the opportunity to choose a box, that fact never changes.  As long as you are aware of the initial split in boxes: one this way and two that way, and *that* choice is effectively random, everything else about the game's mechanics is irrelevant to the optimal strategy.  You should pick the side that had the most shots at the prize.


So here's the real test of probability mastery.  You're looking for the bathroom, but you've forgotten which door leads to the bathroom.  You really, really need to use the bathroom and you can't wait long enough to open all three doors.  You mentally pick the door you guess is the right door, but as you run up to that door the wind blows open one of the other two doors, showing its the washing machine.  Should you switch doors?
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on March 20, 2013, 08:42:08 PM
So here's the real test of probability mastery.  You're looking for the bathroom, but you've forgotten which door leads to the bathroom.  You really, really need to use the bathroom and you can't wait long enough to open all three doors.  You mentally pick the door you guess is the right door, but as you run up to that door the wind blows open one of the other two doors, showing its the washing machine.  Should you switch doors?
Depends on wether or not a god exists and played a Monty Hall on you at that time or not :P

In the two problems, the solution is the same, you should change your door. That's not because the opener knows the solution. It's because he opened a wrong door. If he opened the good door, you wouldn't have to choose anymore, it wouldn't matter.

To solve the problem picture the global outcome. In absolute terms, because it's pure random, you had two chances to be wrong, and 1 chance to be right when choosing your door, out of three chances. Then the wind (assuming the opening was random) also had 2 chances to open the bad door and 1 to be right. You being right and the wind being wrong has probability 2/3*1/3, and you being wrong and the wind was wrong is 2/3*2/3.

Bayes' rule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayes_rule) gives that probability you were right knowing wind is wrong (which is the probability we are interested in... I guess), is the probability that you were right and the wind was wrong divided by the probability the wind was wrong, which gives 2/3*1/3 / (2/3) is 1/3.

The (null) difference in the Monty Hall's problem, is that the probability of Monty being right (in his good prize guessing) is 0, whatever the conditional probability. So, in the beginning, the probability of you being right and Monty being wrong is 1/3. Formula gives that probability of you being right knowing Monty was wrong, is probability of you being right and monty being wrong divided by his chance to be wrong, hence, 1/3 / 1.

Also, the magic happens when the outcome, in the end, where magically the only other choice you have, is to switch being right and being wrong. Since a wrong door was opened, that's why "changing door" transforms 1/3 to 2/3 in both cases.

But in your case Arcana, I wouldn't count on chance of being right being only 1/3. It may be in the concious' mind eye, but the unconcious mind has the troublesome habit of skewing you own choice to the one it thinks is the good one, and generally it has a far better memory and statistics.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on March 21, 2013, 03:43:28 PM
So here's the real test of probability mastery.  You're looking for the bathroom, but you've forgotten which door leads to the bathroom.  You really, really need to use the bathroom and you can't wait long enough to open all three doors.  You mentally pick the door you guess is the right door, but as you run up to that door the wind blows open one of the other two doors, showing its the washing machine.  Should you switch doors?

I'd probably switch because, hey, it couldn't hurt, and it beats standing there trying to work out whether the wind opening up one door is a statistically significant event....

But statistically speaking, it doesn't matter.  Since the the wind doesn't know which door is the bathroom, the 1/3 probability of it being the door it opens is shifted equally to the other doors, which now makes it 50/50.  That's why in the Monty Hall problem, it's critically important that you make it crystal clear that Monty knows which door has the prize behind it, and he deliberately opens a door that has a goat.  If you mess that part of the scenario up, then the person you're presenting it to has a legitimate complaint in that you presented it wrong.  But in spite of *ahem...* certain people acting like it's voodoo that affects the probability, it REALLY DOES affect the probability.  If Monty doesn't know which door has the prize and randomly opens one of the other two doors, you have the wind situation above and it makes no difference if you keep your original door or switch.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on March 21, 2013, 07:34:32 PM
But statistically speaking, it doesn't matter.  Since the the wind doesn't know which door is the bathroom, the 1/3 probability of it being the door it opens is shifted equally to the other doors, which now makes it 50/50.  That's why in the Monty Hall problem, it's critically important that you make it crystal clear that Monty knows which door has the prize behind it, and he deliberately opens a door that has a goat.  If you mess that part of the scenario up, then the person you're presenting it to has a legitimate complaint in that you presented it wrong.  But in spite of *ahem...* certain people acting like it's voodoo that affects the probability, it REALLY DOES affect the probability.  If Monty doesn't know which door has the prize and randomly opens one of the other two doors, you have the wind situation above and it makes no difference if you keep your original door or switch.
Tony, I think you're wrong. Even if the wind didn't know which door was the good one, it doesn't matter. What matters, is: 1/ You have a flat chance of 1/3 of being right 2/ the opened door is not yours, and 3/ The opened door is not the good choice.

Obviously, if any of the 1/ to 3/ changes, the problem is fundamentally different (you don't have any choice left, or the probability is different, but if they all hold, the result is the same.

Let's take the problem with 4 doors. You have one chance to be right, in the beginning. In the second try, you then have 3/4 chance that one of the remaining doors is the good one, and that is the same as being distributed evenly among the remaining unopened doors. What's important here is that the initial choice of being right is a set probability, and that the remaining set of choices gets reduced.

Or, said in another manner, you can't go against maths. Unless they are badly applied (which you have to prove).

In fact, it's the choice that sets all hells loose. Just the choice.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on March 21, 2013, 07:59:44 PM
Let me do a double post here because the concept is pretty different, and I wish to split the threadjack.

You can solve the problem with a "quantic" approach. Let's say you get 3 selves, each one selects a door, so you have 1 that is right, and two that are wrong.

Now, the one you that is right gets one of the wrong door opened (wether by random, or by choice, what matters is the result that one wrong door is opened, which is always possible. You don't need to measure the gain of changing your mind if your door was opened, right ?). He has another choice to change his door to open, so he splits again, the staying right and the changing right. Only one of them wins.

Now remember the two you that were wrong? Now the remaining wrong door gets opened (Again, doesn't matter if it was random or not, you wouldn't be asking this question if they opened the good door, you would know). They have a choice, again, so they split, too. the staying wrongs, and the changing wrongs.

The problem is, those are three you. So either you are staying, or you changing. So, where are there more "you" winning ? When you stay, or when you change ?

Again, what matter is how many "you" were here at the first choice, and how your second choice will affect all of them.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Codewalker on March 21, 2013, 11:50:47 PM
But statistically speaking, it doesn't matter.  Since the the wind doesn't know which door is the bathroom, the 1/3 probability of it being the door it opens is shifted equally to the other doors, which now makes it 50/50.  That's why in the Monty Hall problem, it's critically important that you make it crystal clear that Monty knows which door has the prize behind it, and he deliberately opens a door that has a goat.

Actually, the wind does know which door the bathroom is. Arcana stated the problem as such:

So here's the real test of probability mastery.  You're looking for the bathroom, but you've forgotten which door leads to the bathroom.  You really, really need to use the bathroom and you can't wait long enough to open all three doors.  You mentally pick the door you guess is the right door, but as you run up to that door the wind blows open one of the other two doors, showing its the washing machine.  Should you switch doors?

Emphasis mine. The way the problem is stated rules out any possibility that the wind can blow open the bathroom door, so it's effectively the Monty Hall problem in disguise. The given information completely excludes 1/3 possible sets of circumstances right off the bat, just like Monty opening a door he knows is wrong excludes them.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on March 22, 2013, 08:32:56 AM
Actually, the wind does know which door the bathroom is. Arcana stated the problem as such:

Emphasis mine. The way the problem is stated rules out any possibility that the wind can blow open the bathroom door, so it's effectively the Monty Hall problem in disguise. The given information completely excludes 1/3 possible sets of circumstances right off the bat, just like Monty opening a door he knows is wrong excludes them.
Well, the wind did not know, but now you do know which door the wind opened.

That's what problematic in probabilities, it's knowing how to interpret the problem, and this can make a whole world's worth of difference.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on March 22, 2013, 08:22:33 PM
The way the problem is stated rules out any possibility that the wind can blow open the bathroom door, so it's effectively the Monty Hall problem in disguise. The given information completely excludes 1/3 possible sets of circumstances right off the bat, just like Monty opening a door he knows is wrong excludes them.
Actually, the problem as stated eliminates 2/3rds of all possibilities.  Since the wind is presumed to open a door at random (the wind didn't and can't explicitly select the wash room) it isn't the same problem.

The easiest way to look at this is that initially there are six possibilities.  There are three possibilities for my choice: washing room, bathroom, bedroom.  And for each of those possibilities, there are two possibilities for the other two doors: the wind opens one of them or the other.  These six possibilities look like this:

My Choice, Wind, Other
wash, bed, bath
wash, bath, bed
bed, wash, bath
bed, bath, wash
bath, wash, bed
bath, bed, wash

That's all six possibilities, all equally likely, the instant prior to the wind opening a door.  When the wind blows open the wash room, *four* possibilities are eliminated: 1, 2, 4, and 6.  Notice that two of the options that are eliminated are the ones where I picked the wash room.  That's impossible if the door that blows open leads to the wash room.  That leaves 3 and 5.  In one my choice is right and the remaining door is wrong, and in the other my choice is wrong and the remaining door is right.  Therefore, its now 50/50 and it doesn't matter if I keep or switch.

Why is this different from Monty?  Because with Monty, there are only three possibilities:

My Choice, Box 2, Box 3
Prize, Empty, Empty
Empty, Prize, Empty
Empty, Empty, Prize

When Monty opens one empty box, he doesn't actually eliminate any of those possibilities.  All three are still possible (and equally likely), because in all three cases he can open an empty box, and its presumed in the Monty version that Monty knows where the prize is so its always *guaranteed* he opens an empty box.  So his action adds no information, or alternatively you can say it eliminates no possibilities.

It matters that Monty knows where the prize is.  Suppose in Monty that a random audience member is chosen, and they are asked to open one of the boxes you didn't pick, and its empty.  You might think that increases the likelihood that the remaining box you didn't pick now has a 2/3rds chance of having the prize, same as if Monty opened a box.  But that's wrong, and to see why lets look at the degenerate case again.  Suppose its a million boxes, and you pick one.  At the moment you believe you have a one in a million shot, and there is a 999,999 chance out of a million (almost a certainty) that the prize is in one of the other 999,999 boxes.  But suppose we randomly pick an audience member, and ask them to open one of those boxes, and its empty.  Then another.  And another.  They are asked to open 999,998 of them, and they are all empty.

Question: if the prize *was* in one of those boxes, what are the odds that a random audience member could manage to avoid opening the prize box 999,998 times in a row?  Ah, that's the rub.  If boxes are opened randomly, there's a chance the box that is opened is the prize box itself.  The fact that it does not happen is itself information if the boxes are opened randomly.  But if Monty does it, the odds of the prize box being opened is zero.  And that's what causes the odds of the prize being in the box Monty doesn't open to rise with each box he opens.  He's telling us something we already know - that some boxes are empty - while providing no additional information about whether the remaining box is or is not the prize box.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 22, 2013, 08:27:06 PM
The doors in the picture are actually living, wash, bath.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Risha on March 23, 2013, 01:32:07 AM
Couldn't manage much, but done.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on March 23, 2013, 08:28:29 AM
The doors in the picture are actually living, wash, bath.
That's a lot of edits.  Could you move your bed into the living room instead?
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on March 23, 2013, 01:50:32 PM
<clever word reading skills>
You're twisting the words. Actually, a door, can't be a washing machine. And no probability mastery can make that so.
So here's the real test of probability mastery.  You're looking for the bathroom, but you've forgotten which door leads to the bathroom.  You really, really need to use the bathroom and you can't wait long enough to open all three doors.  You mentally pick the door you guess is the right door, but as you run up to that door the wind blows open one of the other two doors, showing its the washing machineShould you switch doors?
Note that it does not say "Showing the washing machine was behind it/the door".
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on March 23, 2013, 03:21:53 PM
Great, you've done it this time. Now we need to invent a door that is also a washing machine.

Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Triplash on March 23, 2013, 04:36:44 PM
Great, you've done it this time. Now we need to invent a door that is also a washing machine.

Well, I don't have any that are doors... but there's one you could hang on a door, (http://www.gizmag.com/electrolux-shine-concept-washing-machine/15029/) and even one you can carry around with you. (http://www.tomsguide.com/us/electrolux-portable-washing-machine,news-7533.html)

And just think, guys. With a washing machine that small there could be one behind all three doors. Problem solved! :D
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: SerialBeggar on March 23, 2013, 06:18:03 PM
Well, I don't have any that are doors... but there's one you could hang on a door, (http://www.gizmag.com/electrolux-shine-concept-washing-machine/15029/) and even one you can carry around with you. (http://www.tomsguide.com/us/electrolux-portable-washing-machine,news-7533.html)

And just think, guys. With a washing machine that small there could be one behind all three doors. Problem solved! :D

How is the plumbing handled with those portable washers?
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Triplash on March 23, 2013, 06:53:29 PM
How is the plumbing handled with those portable washers?

From the way I read the article, the idea is that the water and electricity hookups would be built into communal locations, and each person brings their own container with their items in it. Like plug 'n play. It's quite an efficient idea actually, with just two drawbacks: (1) remodeling existing buildings to accomodate it, and (2) remodeling existing people to actually use it. That's probably why it's still a lab prototype and not in the market yet.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Arcana on March 26, 2013, 06:16:23 PM
Note that it does not say "Showing the washing machine was behind it/the door".
Well, I suppose technically speaking switching the doors won't change what's behind them either.  And ironically, based on the picture the only two doors you can easily switch from the only room that views all three doors before actually opening them are the two doors that don't lead to the bathroom.

Which makes for an interesting mnemonic: the bathroom is behind the only door you can't switch, if you're asked to pick a door and then given the option to switch the door.

I suppose its also the only door that opens into its room, but that's not nearly as interesting a mnemonic.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Megajoule on March 26, 2013, 09:11:42 PM
And here I figured, seeing three doors all lined up like that, that they were Male, Female, and Huge.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Mister Bison on March 26, 2013, 09:33:49 PM
Well, I suppose technically speaking switching the doors won't change what's behind them either.  And ironically, based on the picture the only two doors you can easily switch from the only room that views all three doors before actually opening them are the two doors that don't lead to the bathroom.

Which makes for an interesting mnemonic: the bathroom is behind the only door you can't switch, if you're asked to pick a door and then given the option to switch the door.

I suppose its also the only door that opens into its room, but that's not nearly as interesting a mnemonic.
Seems to me you can switch all of them, they all revolve the same way (counterclockwise, if you could Hover over them). I guess the right one appearing too small is because it's aligned to the other side of the 20 or so cm of the inner wall of the appartment, because it's made to be pushed.

The problem is the wind always opening the washing room door. Must be a killer when trying to sleep. That and it being another door than the one you whose, basically mean you couldn't choose the washing machine room's door, reducing it to a 50/50 chance of finding the bathroom door.

Personally, I would change the bathtroom's knob to a unique one, and put a lock on the washing machine's. Switch that, Monty !
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: SerialBeggar on March 27, 2013, 11:31:30 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.smbc-comics.com%2Fcomics%2F20130323.gif) (http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2924#comic)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Noyjitat on February 09, 2014, 09:41:54 PM
This guy ever make it to Texas? If so it looks like the titan website needs to be updated and the paypal button changed  8)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: eabrace on February 10, 2014, 12:48:57 AM
He made it.  He's got a job to pay the rent and everything now.

We've pointed Tony in the general direction of getting the button updated.  :)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on February 10, 2014, 01:16:41 AM
You guys were extraordinarily helpful and I continue to be grateful for all the aid you sent my way.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: TonyV on February 12, 2014, 05:11:26 PM
I changed it from "Help Guy" back to "Donate Coffee".  (Metaphorically.  In reality, I hate coffee, and donated funds go towards maintaining hosting.)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Heroette on February 12, 2014, 05:17:09 PM
I changed it from "Help Guy" back to "Donate Coffee".  (Metaphorically.  In reality, I hate coffee, and donated funds go towards maintaining hosting.)

Yay, another person who doesn't like coffee!   ;D
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: JanessaVR on February 12, 2014, 05:19:30 PM
Yay, another person who doesn't like coffee!   ;D
Me, too.  I'm convinced it's genetic, as coffee has always tasted awful to me.  I can't understand how anyone drinks the stuff; I prefer tea.  Oh, well, I guess I save a fortune as I don't frequent Starbucks.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on February 12, 2014, 09:40:15 PM
You can get tea at Starbucks. (-:

Incidentally, cheese and I have never gotten along. I can't fathom what must be different in other people's anatomies to make that stuff appealing in the least.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Heroette on February 13, 2014, 05:20:45 PM
I remember at another job I had they gave everyone a "Starbucks" gift card as a perk.  I'm like, what am I supposed to do with this?  I had it for months before I actually went in and got a strawberry frappuccino thingy.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Aggelakis on February 14, 2014, 03:01:37 AM
I think I would shrivel up in withdrawal if I didn't get my chai at least once a week. Mmm, chai. I can make it at home, but it doesn't taste the same! :'(
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Captain Electric on February 16, 2014, 09:17:09 AM
Starbucks chai is awesomesauce. :)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 17, 2014, 08:58:38 PM
Starbucks chai is awesomesauce. :)
I have tried Chai tea. I prefer my apple cinnamon tea instead.
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Aggelakis on February 17, 2014, 09:25:24 PM
Chai tea isn't terribly interesting. It's a little bite-y-er than regular tea, but that's it. When turned into a syrup and combined with steamed milk, it's amazing. Chai latte. It is love. <3
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Ohioknight on February 18, 2014, 04:29:09 AM
I used to be able to get this wonderful decaf cinnamon stick tea, but I didn't drink tea for several years and now it's apparently gone from the market  :(
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Ohioknight on February 18, 2014, 04:31:33 AM
Recently I've taken up Chai, though (this winter!!!)

Oh and since this is my 99th post, I guess I'm almost a Boss!  :-*
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Ohioknight on February 18, 2014, 04:32:04 AM
Almost, that is ... YAY ;D
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 18, 2014, 09:21:09 PM
I used to be able to get this wonderful decaf cinnamon stick tea, but I didn't drink tea for several years and now it's apparently gone from the market  :(
Similar things have happened with foods I like to eat.  I really liked the Chilli Cheese Burrito from Taco Bell. But, they decided that it was too good for us or something and discontinued it.  Fortunately, it's back (for a limited time only)

For beverages, I'll stick to Raspberry tea, Apple cinnamon, Dr. Pepper, Cream Soda, or Strawberry milk...and water if there's nothing else to drink or I get fidgety from drinking too much Dr. Pepper.


when did I get over 200 posts?
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: GuyPerfect on February 18, 2014, 10:11:12 PM
when did I get over 200 posts?

Your 200th post was this one (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,9016.msg129179.html#msg129179).
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Twisted Toon on February 19, 2014, 05:19:57 AM
Your 200th post was this one (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,9016.msg129179.html#msg129179).
I guess that's a typical 200th post for me...
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: healix on February 27, 2014, 03:46:36 AM
(Hey, Twisted Toon...if you love tea, you should try Market Spice's best seller, Cinnamon Orange tea. It is beyond wonderful. The smell alone is worth the brewing, and the flavor is heavenly!)

Market Spice Tea (http://www.pacificnorthwestshop.com/shop-by-theme/market-spice-tea-same-day-shipping.html?gclid=CO-i2smn57wCFYWWtAodNy8AwA)
Title: Re: Help Guy Pefect (the Sentinel/Sentinel+ Guy)
Post by: Taceus Jiwede on February 27, 2014, 09:54:46 PM
Me, too.  I'm convinced it's genetic, as coffee has always tasted awful to me.  I can't understand how anyone drinks the stuff; I prefer tea.  Oh, well, I guess I save a fortune as I don't frequent Starbucks.

Funny you say that actually.  I have always hated coffee too.  But the funny thing is I drink it all the time lol.  My folks are the same way.  The drink it, but they don't like it.

If I pump it full of cream and sweetner I can enjoy it but other then that its not very good tasting.  I just have the urge to drink it all the time.  I think my genetics doom me to enjoy a beverage I dont enjoy:)