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Graveyard => Save Paragon Retirees => Save Paragon City! => Topic started by: Rigo42 on December 21, 2012, 08:38:03 AM
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I commonly only come here to browse the Save Paragon City , and the Task Force Hail Mary section,
Anyways, a question on my mind is, even if a company wants to buy City Of Heroes, do we even know if NCSoft is willing to sell?
Thank you for the replies, I shall sit back and hope.
Hopefully NCsoft gets a clue, I wonder how low their stocks will go.
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The short answer is "we don't know."
Historically speaking, NCsoft has been extremely loathe to sell or even license the IPs for its previous cancelled games. It even prevented the Garriots from obtaining Tabula Rasa in the wake of its closure, and we know for a fact they turned down offers to purchase Auto Assault right after it was closed.
This is the reason why Task Force Hail Mary has its name. It's a shot in the dark; even if we can convince Disney or some other company to approach NCsoft with an overture to purchase CoH, we have no idea whether or not they'd be willing to sell. We're hoping that whatever company we can get will have sufficient clout that NCsoft will find itself between a rock and a hard place - either sell the IP and rights, or risk pissing off their investors when the investors learn that NCsoft refused a solid offer from such a prestigious company.
NCsoft is on shaky ground financially as it stands. Their stock price has lost all of the gains it has accrued in the past two years, and is in danger of slipping even further, despite the launch of Guild Wars 2 and Blade & Soul in China. If we can get a major company with a lot of clout to approach NCsoft, and NCsoft refuses, they'll be in some hot water - after all, they just refused to unload a 'dead-weight' unused IP for what amounts to pure profit.
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I concur with Kaiser Tarentula here.
Also, if there is no buyer, there is no question, it certainly won't be sold.
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Also, keep in mind the Korean Times article, in which the NCSoft spokesperson said no decision had yet been made on the fate of the CoH IP.
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Wonderfully eloquent and poignant, Ms. Lackey. :)
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I don't believe NCsoft would be willing to sell. They've never done so in their history.
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They've also never been in such dire straits as they are now, either. We can't discount the possibility.
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It seems to me that we are moving from hidden skirmishes and ambush tactics into full-scale open warfare.
Metaphorically speaking, of course.
I am quite sure that a sale is the only saving grace they have left to them.
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I don't believe NCsoft would be willing to sell. They've never done so in their history.
If you don't try, you automatically fail.
Now if that is fine with you, then find another game and enjoy yourself. I have no interest in raining on your parade. But please do not come here and issue defeatist statements. It's like trying to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time, and piss off the pig.
There are others of us who are not willing to let this go without the fight of NCSoft's life. And if nothing else, we are changing the way game companies look at their customers.
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If you don't try, you automatically fail.
Now if that is fine with you, then find another game and enjoy yourself. I have no interest in raining on your parade. But please do not come here and issue defeatist statements. It's like trying to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time, and piss off the pig.
There are others of us who are not willing to let this go without the fight of NCSoft's life. And if nothing else, we are changing the way game companies look at their customers.
Also, the way game companies operate. There'll be more on that later. :)
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I know they wont see a reason to sell if we don't give anyone a reason to pay for it.
Three cheers to our new overlords!
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I know they wont see a reason to sell if we don't give anyone a reason to pay for it.
Three cheers to our new overlords!
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woops, wrong game
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It's like trying to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time, and piss off the pig.
*wipes coffee off monitor while muttering something to the effect of needing to clean it anyway*
;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKbFb6TPVEA
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I don't believe NCsoft would be willing to sell. They've never done so in their history.
Certainly the game is rigged. But if you don't play, you can't win.
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woops, wrong game
Clearly CoH would need more supply depots anyway.
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I don't believe NCsoft would be willing to sell. They've never done so in their history.
This is true, but there is always a first time for everything. Maybe not for this IP, this year, this decade, but eventually. One thing is for certain, it wont change if no one demand a change. Sometimes even demanding a change is no guarantee that those demands will be met but it's not certain they will be ignored or wotn have an effect.
While some will view your statement as defeatist and probably will jump on your case about it and tell you to go enjoy some other game and etc other mean attacking statements, I think it's just a mere fact. They have never sold an IP of a game they killed. We are trying to change that.
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And if nothing else, we are changing the way game companies look at their customers.
I think this alone has great value to the future of MMO's, even if efforts get CoH back should ultimately prove fruitless. I know I don't want to go thru another MMO closure and that this is part of why I'm not enjoying my recent attempts at MMOgaming; well that and I don't find anything even remotely close to what we had in City of Heroes.
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I still don't understand why nobody at NC foresaw the financial consequences of shutting down CoH. Do they think that B&S will make up for it or are they intentially commiting financia suicide?
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I'm sure that somebody foresaw the consequences. The people making the decision apparently didn't and/or ignored those who did.
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I'm not sure the loss of revenue is enough for them to care enough. They're clearly banking on making up the cash with their other ventures. And from their wording on the closure of PS they needed to focus better on those other ventures and CoH was somehow preventing them from doing that.
The biggest question is whether or not the sale of the IP would be worth their time filling out the paperwork. The second big question is whether they're willing to look bad if the game they gave up on did well with another publisher.
Until such time as they can be convinced that the answers to those 2 questions are good news for them you'll likely not see a sale.
So you'll need someone to throw heaps of cash at them and/or someone that's a 'friend' buy it so they can smile and say 'good for you'. They won't sell for less than they think it's worth and won't sell to an 'enemy' that would rub it in their face.
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I still don't understand why nobody at NC foresaw the financial consequences of shutting down CoH. Do they think that B&S will make up for it or are they intentially commiting financia suicide?
What "financial consequences"? Their sales are up, their profits are at an all time high for a quarter.
Yes their stock price is down but that doesn't affect them directly or even indirectly by much. Sure their CEO owns about 10% of the stock but he sold 60% of what he had to Nexon back when the stock was 100,000 KrW higher than where it is now so he made out.
Higher profits third quarter and lower stock prices have made a number of analyst indexes more favorable for NCSoft. Over the short term NCSoft is more attractive now than it was pre-Freedom.
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And from their wording on the closure of PS they needed to focus better on those other ventures and CoH was somehow preventing them from doing that.
This is just a PR statement used as a non-explanation. It probably doesn't mean anything.