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Title: Fire Control/Empathy Build
Post by: Ceph on April 28, 2011, 04:31:18 AM
Ive always wanted to try out Fire Control (why I haven't yet is beyond my knowledge; I mean Fire Imps? Heck yeah!), and I've always liked Empathy, so I figured, let's give it a go!

Pretty much decided to get everything from the Fire set except Char (yes I'm keeping Bonfire).

My question is - what's a good slotting recommendation for Fire/Emp?

Ideally I'd like to create a well rounded teaming Controller with a emphasis on TFs and the like. Not so much a farming hero, although I wouldn't be opposed to creating a farming build (3 builds, why not).

Any help is greatly appreciated and thanks!
Title: Re: Fire Control/Empathy Build
Post by: WanderingAries on April 30, 2011, 03:47:21 AM
Forgive the length as I haven't a clue how to format these bloody things...
Here's what I have for the only build I've bothered with. The toon is primarily offensive w/ AoE healing & selective buff powers as it's hard for me to selectively buff a person on my config. Most people would probably put more into the team buffs and drop the cloak, but some days I just wanna ghost ya know. Sadly I tried a Pure Fire Corr as well, but I'm disappointed by the lack of attack powers. Almost makes me wanna reroll as a blaster.  :-(

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.93
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Pyromethious: Level 50 Mutation Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Empathy
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ring of Fire Level 1: Healing Aura Level 2: Char Level 4: Fire Cages Level 6: Hover Level 8: Stealth Level 10: Hasten Level 12: Recall Friend Level 14: Fly Level 16: Resurrect Level 18: Smoke Level 20: Cinders Level 22: Clear Mind Level 24: Fortitude Level 26: Flashfire Level 28: Recovery Aura Level 30: Bonfire Level 32: Fire Imps Level 35: Regeneration Aura Level 38: Adrenalin Boost Level 41: Fire Blast Level 44: Rise of the Phoenix Level 47: Consume Level 49: Fire Shield ------------
Level 1: Brawl Level 1: Sprint Level 2: Rest Level 1: Containment
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift Level 2: Hurdle Level 2: Health Level 2: Stamina
Title: Re: Fire Control/Empathy Build
Post by: Ceph on April 30, 2011, 04:51:22 PM
I'm curious why you opted for Char over Hot Feet - Char being a single-target immobilize vs Hot Feet being a slow with mild dmg.
Title: Re: Fire Control/Empathy Build
Post by: DeProgrammer on April 30, 2011, 05:11:23 PM
Char is a hold, not an immobilize.
Title: Re: Fire Control/Empathy Build
Post by: Aggelakis on April 30, 2011, 09:01:56 PM
If I'm going to be frank (not Frank, that's my dad), I really have no idea what WanderingAries is doing with this character. Says it's  a primarily offensive, but power choices are very weird. No Hot Feet on a primarily offensive character? Really?

And then the slotting is just silly. Defense IOs in Stealth? Really, you really want to increase that (approximately) 2.5% defense to 4.something percent? That approximately 2% extra defense is really going to make that much difference? ONE recharge in Fortitude, plus slotting tohit and NO defense?? Recharge in Ring of Fire, which is already only a couple seconds recharge?

It really, honestly, looks like you went "I'll put one of every possible IO in each power, that looks about right." Note: it's not right.

WA, I recommend taking this build back to the planner and doing some serious tweaking.
Title: Re: Fire Control/Empathy Build
Post by: WanderingAries on April 30, 2011, 10:36:34 PM
Quote from: Aggelakis on April 30, 2011, 09:01:56 PM
If I'm going to be frank (not Frank, that's my dad), I really have no idea what WanderingAries is doing with this character. Says it's  a primarily offensive, but power choices are very weird. No Hot Feet on a primarily offensive character? Really?

And then the slotting is just silly. Defense IOs in Stealth? Really, you really want to increase that (approximately) 2.5% defense to 4.something percent? That approximately 2% extra defense is really going to make that much difference? ONE recharge in Fortitude, plus slotting tohit and NO defense?? Recharge in Ring of Fire, which is already only a couple seconds recharge?

It really, honestly, looks like you went "I'll put one of every possible IO in each power, that looks about right." Note: it's not right.

WA, I recommend taking this build back to the planner and doing some serious tweaking.

I think I primarily chose the ranged powers because the toon wasn't a melee character. I had hotfeet once before and probably got too much personal agro instead of letting the pets take it. As for slotting, I'm not quite to the point of wanting to dive into sets yet so the IO's are basically overclocked Enh at this point. I mentioned that single target-ally powers were logistically tricky for my setup in part because of manual dexterity. That's why I flooded the AoE heal and didn't balance out those instead. As for your last comment...you're not terribly far off base, but there's so much I'm trying to relearn since coming back last issue.

SO...what about those recomendations for the OP?