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Dude! I saw that! And the name of the airfield!
And once again the name of this episode is "City of Heroes", just as 2nd season Arrow premier. Also a later episode (4?) is called "Going Rogue". :'(Spoiler for Hidden:
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Also in the flashback (doh) did anyone else notice both red and yellow blurs around his mother? Was Flash fighting Zoom, in the past? Did he save himself?
Also in the flashback (doh) did anyone else notice both red and yellow blurs around his mother? Was Flash fighting Zoom, in the past? Did he save himself?
O_O Interesting, though, I didn't think much of the red and yellow blurs since The Flash himself leaves a red and yellow blur. Figured that was a trait of anyone that was powered by the speed force. But with Barry being "warped" away from the house, that would make sense.
The flashes of a man who is pretty clearly in a Flash-style suit but yellow seem to me to suggest it's Zoom.
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There was an interesting article I read responding to speculations about foreshadowing of major DC comics events. Essentially, the article said: "No way will DC allow the CW to build up a bunch of connected series that culminates in something like an Infinite Crisis 2-hour special event, because that would take away from what they want to do with the movies." So it is interesting to see things that clearly reference major events in the comics, with the knowledge that the article is probably correct - the CW's scope is just not high enough on the DC totem pole to warrant big things like that.
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Then it should've been up Thursday. Yet here it is Saturday and still not available for the app. And even more irritating is the fact that it's up on their website. And has been since at least Thursday. And now I'm going to borrow a copy from a "friend" who was kind enough to record the broadcast sans commercials.
I definitely like Joe West's acting (I don't know the actor's name - when I saw him in the first episode, I thought "hey, the Law & Order guy is playing another cop!").Jesse L Martin. He's pretty awesome.
Still waiting for this to come up on the CW app. FOX puts the new eps of Gotham up on their app the day after it airs. If CW doesn't speed it up, I may have to resort to downloading the episodes.
I must be old. I watched the episodes on something called a "television" or TV for short.Yeah, I used this thing called a DVR to record it, then watched it when I didn't have to work. I do the same thing for Doctor Who, NCIS, Big Bang Theory, and Agents of Shield.
Yeah, I used this thing called a DVR to record it, then watched it when I didn't have to work. I do the same thing for Doctor Who, NCIS, Big Bang Theory, and Agents of Shield.
And the new episode... Every time Barry stops running, his mask flies off? Could be a problem. Stagg is dead? Might impact any chances of a Metamorpho appearance. "Ronnie"? Perhaps Firestorm is in the cards?
I think Arrow has done a passable job of including comic book elements. Especially in The second season. The only reason I don't love that show is the incessant flashbacks. They were a mild annoyance in the first season, but they got increasingly irritating in the second season, culminating in a very irritating final confrontation with Deathstroke that kept flipping confusingly back and forth between past and present. I'm mildly concerned that The Flash is going to start overplaying the flashbacks.
They need to come back to try again, that's a central plot theme for superhero comics.
Assuming that they, "Gotham" and "Arrow" stick around, the addition of the planned live-action Supergirl, X-Men and Teen Titans series will make for (by my recent experience) a packed viewing schedule.
Haha... he does have a habit of taking it off when he gets winded. It's probably annoying, if you haven't worn a mask, to suddenly start wearing one. I do wonder how it fits, though, since it doesn't look like a hood when he has it off - looks like it almost split down the middle.
There's actually talk of the CW wanting a 3rd superhero show (http://www.cinemablend.com/television/CW-Wants-Third-DC-Comics-Show-Here-Latest-67746.html).
This has been the case in every superhero show in recent years, and it's bugged the crap out of me. Even going back to that show that was on NBC, The Cape, that guy seemed to have his mask off more than on.
I have trouble watching programs on the TV's schedule, and I don't have a DVR. And I got rid of my VCR ages ago. Luckily, all these newfangled devices exist to aid me in various ways. The companies that figure out how to properly exploit that fact will still get ad revenue from my viewing.
And the new episode... Every time Barry stops running, his mask flies off? Could be a problem. Stagg is dead? Might impact any chances of a Metamorpho appearance. "Ronnie"? Perhaps Firestorm is in the cards?
And what's with the assemblage of Scoobies? Gotta collect a group of relatively normal people who are in-the-know. Never mind that the more there are, the more it defeats the purpose of a secret identity.
The mask thing always bugged me. It's as if their contract says they need to be maskless in X% of televised footage. I certainly hope it's not the assumption that the audience is too stupid to remember who's behind the mask.
As others have noted, there may be an agreement to show the actor's face as much as possible while in costume, causing all the ripped-off mask scenes. We'll know it's gone to far when they start duplicating the technique in the comics themselves.
And what's with the assemblage of Scoobies? Gotta collect a group of relatively normal people who are in-the-know. Never mind that the more there are, the more it defeats the purpose of a secret identity.
I've been looking forward to the Flash since I heard rumors about Barry showing up on Arrow, and the only disappointment I've had with the show is the fact that they couldn't get Barry's hair color right. (of course, the fact that the first comic I bought for myself was a copy of Flash #121 (June 1961) might have something to do with that.) But they've been doing a great job with the characters so far, and dropping all sorts of easter eggs to long-time followers of his adventures.
I didn't get into the Flash until the first series, with John Wesley Shipp as Barry, so I always think of him as having brown hair anyway.
I found it interesting that during the flash back (heh) Dr. Wells mentioned it felt like he was waiting for centuries for the moment the particle accelerator turned on. That's probably not a figure of speech.
Heh... From the future... Harrison Wells? Middle initial G, perhaps?
I just realized - it'd be pretty funny if every episode for the first season involved a stunning Wells action in the last scene.
Also wish the "freak of the week" thing would go away. Someone at WB must have said "Hey...Smallville stayed on the air for 10 seasons...let's do it like that!" I would like to sit them down and point out that the big hits these days don't do it that way....check out Game of Thrones and Walking Dead guys.
And they better not be planning to copy the irritating Clark/Lana thing from Smallville with Barry/Iris. Starting to smell that way. "I can't be with her...must protect her from my secret...but I love her sooo much!" Bleh....
So I just watched the episode (missed it Tuesday) and I laughed when the last scene was indeed a Wells scene. 3 for 3!
Let's take bets on what the next one will be (not having one is also a legit bet to choose). I think he'll anonymously offer to fund or break Captain Cold out.
Does anyone know which episodes, if any, of Arrow we need to watch? Or are all the crossovers going to be during The Flash's time slot?My plan is to look up which Arrow episodes the Flash actor appears in and watch those. :D
Well, at least this week the bad guy didn't die. Although I wonder if he'll need to be fed. The freak of the week thing has been done for ages - it seems to me like there's a certain requirement for closure that the writers have to put in to each episode, even as there are one or two larger arcs for the whole season or show.They didn't do it this week so I'm happy.
As far as Barry / Iris, Joe told him not to tell her. I'm sure she'll figure it out - but even so, the unrequited and oblivious nature of her relationship to Barry was there well before he got fast. I mean, he was going to tell her he had feelings in the first episode, but she was completely unaware and unintentionally shot him down.Oh I know the story. There was a story for Clark/Lana too. Just wish they weren't doing that Clark/Lana thing. Feels like they are trying to appeal to teen girls with that. (no offense to teen girls...but I'm not one)
My plan is to look up which Arrow episodes the Flash actor appears in and watch those. :D
By "freak of the week", I mean "all the bad guys come from the same event"....like Smallville and the meteor rocks. It was "the big explosion" here for the first 3 episodes. Tonight they went a different way...thank god.
Feels like they are trying to appeal to teen girls with that. (no offense to teen girls...but I'm not one)
Lastly, from a storytelling perspective, I think it has more emotion to have Barry attempt to save his mother and fail (or choose not to because of the future consequences!) than to have it simply as a fait accomplis and he only has revenge/justice to go forward with. He still has those options if he goes back in time as well, and there's more drama.
I paid closer attention to the opening montage where the red/yellow blur surrounds his mother. It's not so much a yellow blur with red streaks so much as an alternating blur between red and yellow.
This makes me think that Barry will be there and was probably the one to remove his younger self from the house. If the Reverse Flash were to threaten lil Barry, the Flash would have no option other than to remove himself from danger or cease to exist.
There is, of course, the gap between when lil Barry gets removed from the house and when he returns. Who knows what happens in that gap.
Lastly, from a storytelling perspective, I think it has more emotion to have Barry attempt to save his mother and fail (or choose not to because of the future consequences!) than to have it simply as a fait accomplis and he only has revenge/justice to go forward with. He still has those options if he goes back in time as well, and there's more drama.
Also: More Grodd!Yesssss.
Ran up a building and across water. Now he just needs to vibrate through something. Also: More Grodd!
Personally, I would of preferred if they had gone the route of him running up 20 flights of stairs in the blink of
an eye instead.
Best joke of the episode was Catlin saying "What were you thinking?" to Cisco while holding a boomerang as they were testing Bette's ability of turning objects into bombs and tossing them. This was going on in the background as Barry was talking to Bette.
Best joke of the episode was Catlin saying "What were you thinking?" to Cisco while holding a boomerang as they were testing Bette's ability of turning objects into bombs and tossing them. This was going on in the background as Barry was talking to Bette.
I liked the logo for it, with the Arrow's ...er, arrow through the Flash's name, instead of the lightning streak.
Apparently the last Arrow episode with Cupid had a special title card with his arrow replaced with her heart shaped one.Yup. That made me laugh.
Welp, now we know Batman already exists in this universe.
If you're referring to when Wells said "that man" in such a way that everyone thought he said "Batman," I am so sorry.
On the plus side, Wayne's company does exist, so you've got that going for you.
Well at least I'm not alone....
Name dropping Batman right there really didn't make a lot of sense, seeing as they were talking about Oliver, but Wells' description of that style of justice fits both Arrow and Batman.
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@KennonGL^
Are you really wondering how a (supposed) time traveller can be at two places at the same time? ;)
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Are you really wondering how a (supposed) time traveller can be at two places at the same time? ;)
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Are you really wondering how a (supposed) time traveller can be at two places at the same time? ;)
But he killed all the police except for Eddie. My assumption is Wells is not the Yellow Flash but the suit has the power (based on the tachyon tech from Mercury Labs) and the Yellow Flash is Thawne from the future.
If Reverse Flash is Eddie Thawne, why would he need Wells to specifically point out it was Detective Thawne that was going to read him his rights? Surely he remembers what he looked like. It's far more likely that Wells (and Reverse Flash) is Eobard Thawne, Eddie's descendent.
I can't lie... I love Captain Cold ;D
He's just so cool, always having back up plans and all.
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If you see it like that, there's zero fun to watching or reading The Flash.:roll:
Unless he's fighting another speedster every fight should be over in milliseconds and end with his opponent splashed all over the next wall... yes, even psychic Grodd.
Without a healthy dose of willing suspension of disbelief the whole genre is just dumb.
If you see it like that, there's zero fun to watching or reading The Flash.
Unless he's fighting another speedster every fight should be over in milliseconds and end with his opponent splashed all over the next wall... yes, even psychic Grodd.
Without a healthy dose of willing suspension of disbelief the whole genre is just dumb.
Its the same problem with Superman. People tend to forget he has super speed as well and a lot of the times he could avoid fights or mop up criminals in seconds just as the Flash should. But what the fun in that.With all those other powers, sometimes I think Superman forgets he has it. =D
Also, first mention of the Speedforce.I wasn't sure if that was the first mention or not, but I thought it might be.
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You know, I'm not sure if the people behind the show really understand how problematic it is for a hero to be holding people without a fair trial.Agreed. And the conditions they're holding them in would never do. Are they regularly fed? Do they get exercise? How about facilities? I don't see any bunks, sinks, or toilets in those cells. Changes of clothes? Visitors? How would the flash feel if his father in Iron Heights was treated like that? I guess it's one of those things we have to ignore.
Well it's not like any of them stay locked up for more than a few days. Typical super villain prison.
Meanwhile I'm thinking of a possible future story line and I'm really hoping they do it. I want them to do a variation of the Flashpoint Paradox story line. He saves his mom, and the present winds up screwed up just like in Flashpoint. Only instead of teaming up with Thomas Wayne as Batman he teams up with Robert Queen as Arrow. Central City controlled by the Rogues Gallery and Sterling City under control of the LoA.
Barnes and Noble has a free Fridays thing, and this week has a bonus eBook about DC on TV. Seems like it's probably a purely promotional thing, but it's free, probably until Monday:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dce-on-tv-dc-comics/1120337273?ean=2940045896375
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook-blog/category/free-fridays/
Speaking of book tie-ins, I was glancing at the Flash wiki, and I guess there's a comic (Arrow has one too). Has anyone read it?
One thing bothered me in a recent episode: Why take the Pied Piper to Star Labs at all? He doesn't appear to be a meta-human.
Agreed. And the conditions they're holding them in would never do. Are they regularly fed? Do they get exercise? How about facilities? I don't see any bunks, sinks, or toilets in those cells.
I specifically read this thread just to see if anybody else was as bothered by that as I was. All five of them (including Joe) are looking at life sentences on kidnapping charges -- you don't get to just lock up your enemies because you don't feel like telling the government about super powers -- I mean, you CAN, you're just a criminal for doing it.
They're already almost out of Flash villains as it is.
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They're already almost out of top tier Flash villains as it is.
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Um...technically we got solidly into that territory at the end of the very first episode. It's really only been a question as to when it would manifest more fully into the show.I am hoping this doesn't open the floodgates to wholesale usage.
They can give flash a few of Green Lantern's enemies... Evil Star, Evil-O, or Goldface... Or, Atom villains... Bug-Eyed Bandit or Plant Master!
Who says i'm not including the Top? i said almost out - so top, mirror master and trickster seem like the really prime flash villains they haven't had yet. i'd love if they did some of the lulzier villains though. one of the funnier things in jlu was luthor's reaction to goldface.
I do hope they have some more villains that aren't flash specific. I think vandal savage would be great on there, as it doesn't look like they're going the mastermind direction with grod (at least from last week's teaser. i haven't seen this week's yet).
Vandal Savage is too good for TV. Maybe they could get his cousin Randy.
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And talk about an actor gag... ONCE AGAIN Clancy Brown gets on the bad side of Grodd! :D
Playing two characters who run afoul of Grodd. He really needs to have a talk with his agent; he's being typecast.But when he was Luthor, he did eventually end up spacing Grodd. So you know... he did get payback
BTW - if anyone doesn't get what I meant by "Xanatos Speed Chess", I was referencing the following set of tropes:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit)
If anyone doesn't know they aren't cool enough to be here. :pOn the contrary. We are inclusive here. You don't have to be a comics nerd to like the show.
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Indeed. That was how I read, too. He didn't gloat, and covered himself with the rest of the team afterwards.That's very reasonable, but I would have like to have seen it.
You know, I'm not sure if the people behind the show really understand how problematic it is for a hero to be holding people without a fair trial.Agreed. And the conditions they're holding them in would never do. Are they regularly fed? Do they get exercise? How about facilities? I don't see any bunks, sinks, or toilets in those cells. Changes of clothes? Visitors? How would the flash feel if his father in Iron Heights was treated like that? I guess it's one of those things we have to ignore.
They're already almost out of Flash villains as it is.
And I bet in this alternate timeline the two people he works with will become Killer Frost and Vibe since they are named after those characters.
And I will call it right now: Barry has to either stop himself from stopping his mom being killed or he has to kill her himself to bring the timeline back to the way it was.
My main problem is that I think the guy playing Eddie Thawn would have been a better Barry Allen than the guy playing Barry Allen.
If it had been a team of people that didn't know what they were doing, I probably wouldn't have gotten this role because they would have just cast a blonde guy who was buff. They were looking for somebody who encompassed the heart of Barry Allen and at first, I didn't realize I did. Now that I've explored the character, the comics, read the scripts and talked to [the producers], I understand why I got this role.
I am hoping this doesn't open the floodgates to wholesale usage. [of time travel]
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some meh (Weather Wizard).
The Linda Park thing is making my brain twitch, however.
Watching the show weekly, but already ordered the Season 1 Blu-Ray.
So... Why exactly was Dr. Stein hanging out near the particle accelerator with the Firestorm matrix when they turned it on? I feel like this very relevant question has been glossed over.
Gotta say though I prefer the brandy snifter/interspecies dating Grodd to the lives in the sewers Grodd.
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Nice! I actually just want the DVD, but Amazon is a good place for that too. I see it's a bit expensive though... but it's ok, the 90s show is not! http://smile.amazon.com/Flash-Complete-Various/dp/B004EXWGJW
Also, I just learned that there was a Witchblade series. Who knew? ...not me.
See Amazon's pre-order guarantee. Order now, and when it goes on sale, you will receive it for the lowest price it was listed for between the date you pre-ordered and the on-sale date. In other words, pre-order now for $50 and next week, for some reason, it hits $20, but on sale date it actually sells for $30. You'll get it for $20.
Wow, a LOT of great reveals in this one.
And we finally get the connection with Eddie Thawne!
Of course with time travel now involved - I'm sure some of the things that happened this episode won't stick.
Yeah, "Star Trek" taught me to hate that "reset button".
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Argh! You guys must have cable. My Amazon season pass episode won't be available until tomorrow night.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Him helping Barry to gain speed and then saying he went to kill him in the past doesn't jibe.
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I read that over the weekend they announced that season 2 will include Wally West. No mention if adult Wally through time travel, or child Wally and the possible creation of Kid Flash. Personally hoping adult Wally.
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Ok, finally got to see this from my Amazon season pass. Talk about a wham episode. Revelations everywhere and major plot happenings across the board.
Which the giant Star Trek Voyager reset button of time travel will almost totally erase.But I don't think will erase permanently. The injuries, for sure will be undone.
But I don't think will erase permanently. The injuries, for sure will be undone.
The bit with Iris and Wells/Cisco are there to let us, the viewers, know what's going on and add tension to future scenes where we really know what's going on but the characters don't. Iris/Wells will certainly be revealed (again) in the future.
It's not a Trek style reset where you never see it again.
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Ok, finally got to see this from my Amazon season pass. Talk about a wham episode. Revelations everywhere and major plot happenings across the board.
Sorry for the dupe speculations - made this post and submitted and then saw the others before mine, that weren't here when I wrote mine.
Which will of course never have happened since Barry is in the past before all the revelations.
My guess is he will stop the Weather Wizard before he even gets started so he won't have to reveal himself to Iris, the Captain wont be killed and he will contact Cisco while in the past, so Cisco will be stopped from retrying the containment field and so Wells wont have to kill him.
Thank You Star Trek Voyager - King of the Reset!
Sorry for the dupe speculations - made this post and submitted and then saw the others before mine, that weren't here when I wrote mine.
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I have to agree with a comment on the show's IMDB page: there must be plenty of ways to do time travel on the show without saying "never mind" to an entire episode.
I actually think this was the perfect way to time travel. Because the episode wasn't about time travel it was about revealing secrets not to the characters but to the audience. The minor reveal was that Iris does love Barry and they will probably wind up together. This means that folks won't be quite so bitchy about her causing problems between Barry and Linda.
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Well as he said - to him everyone here has been dead for centuries. Assuming he is from the 25th Century like the comic version.
Well as he said - to him everyone here has been dead for centuries. Assuming he is from the 25th Century like the comic version.
The fact that everybody there has been dead for centuries would make no difference to somebody who wasn't a sociopath. Suppose you were to travel back in time to the middle ages Once there you start a business. You hire an apprentice and work with them for years and have a good relationship with them. Could you casually kill them just because as far as you are concerned they died centuries before your birth?You're leaving out an important part of the equation, which is that you want to get home and this person can stop you from getting home. That changes things considerably.
You're leaving out an important part of the equation, which is that you want to get home and this person can stop you from getting home. That changes things considerably.
It wouldn't change anything for me. You don't kill an innocent person just so you can get home. If you do then you are evil, pure and simple.
No one said he's not evil - but in his eyes he probably doesn't think so.Exactly. The best villains don't think they're evil.
(And what the heck is "Golden Glider's" gun actually DOING? Surely not actually turning stuff to gold or coating them with it?)
I think we can reasonably assume that it isn't shooting actual gold. :roll:
Exactly. The best villains don't think they're evil.
I got the picture that it was 11 year old Barry since he has been stuck there for 15 years and he said he didn't want to kill her.
I get the impression that Wells might not have understood the full consequences of time travel when he first went back, hence his adamant desire to keep things on the same course. There's also some wonky things going on with time travel.
1. If Barry went back in time, why aren't there two Barry's running (heh) around? Why did he go back into his own consciousness?
2. If going back in time puts you into your own body, how did wells get back to 11-year old Barry's place since there's no body for him. How does Barry, since there is a body (his own, albeit 11-years old).
Lots of questions regarding Wells' motivations and goals. I hope we get some real insight before the end of the season.
I think Wells went back to kill the 11 year old Barry and that he would still have had plenty of energy to get back to the future. But then the adult Barry showed up and the resulting fight left his energy levels too depleted to get back.
Well something I didn't notice at the end of the previous episode is how the first Flash faded out of existence as this Flash caught up with him. Welcome to the multiverse interpretation of time travel.
That's probably why there weren't two Barry's back in the past as someone mentioned. The first one went off to a future that no longer exists and I guess disappeared.
I want the TV show to go whole hog on the Multiverse idea, and have all other TV versions of the DC universe to be part of this show's Multiverse. That way we can see this Flash team with the 80's TV Flash, or the Adam West Batman, or the Justice League Unlimited animated Flash... WooHoo!
Well we have Mark Hamill as the Trickster. I sure there will be some sort of inside joke about the first Flash series.
I loved the first series and hoped it had gone on longer. But now of course you can do so much more super hero stuff on TV with the technology then you could in 1992.
I'm betting the inside joke will be something about having met Barry's father.
Barry's father was probably the arresting officer.
And he will say he caught him as quick as a flash or something,
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So there WAS an original Harrison Wells. And a DIFFERENT Eobard Thawn. But now they... merged? Or is the original Harrison dead? Based on the effects (ewww) I think he is. But... this show has surprised me before. (And yeah - there's the time-travel angle too)
And Holy CRAP Mark Hamill was AWESOME. But then he always is. :)
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I have to watch it again but it looked to me like the RF was the one who took young Barry out of the house since he was outside first and Barry chased after him.I think you're confusing the colour of the lightning with the colour of the suits. The yellow lightning (Barry) takes young Barry away, then the red lightning (Thawne) leaves the house.
I think you're confusing the colour of the lightning with the colour of the suits. The yellow lightning (Barry) takes young Barry away, then the red lightning (Thawne) leaves the house.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKlwnZJlrCA
I've gotten so used to watching everything at 1.5-1.7x that regular speed ...:o doesn't that make everyone sound like Mickey Mouse?
So, I just can't wait to see what leads to Green Arrow, The Flash, Black Canary, Firestorm and The Atom all teaming up to face... ????Throw in Green Lantern and I'm a happy critter.
That's the Justice League right there!
I want to see a Flash and Elongated Man team-up. Get on that, quick, CW.
Why not. With computers today it would be super easy to do his powers.
And Ralph was name dropped previously as someone who was killed in the accident, but they thought Stein and Raymond were dead and they weren't.
Pretty sure that joke is already implied in his name nowadays.
Had another random thought.
After The Flash saves his younger self and runs off, what does he do after that? Personally, I would probably go back to the house to see what's going on or try to save Mom. Since Barry's dad was still at the house, did the Flash and Mr. Allen have a conversation?
Does Barry's dad know more about that night than he's saying? Not necessarily anything sinister, but perhaps he's keeping his mouth shut because the Flash asked him to.
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in theory it's a demotion, but once you were in superman returns everything is a step up.
Isn't this a sort of demotion for the actor?
From playing Superman to playing the Atom.
As I understand, they initially wanted Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), but were denied. http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54363
Hmm, wonder what the other plans are for BB. Would prefer having the Jaime Reyes version anyway, but i do remember Kord industries showing up in Flash or Arrow and wondering if they'd stick him in at some point.
Also - This is awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XE_jH2eQl4
Ahem
http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,10787.msg178480.html#msg178480
The way he looked in the photograph toward the end of "Who is Harrison Wells" (episode 19), did Cisco remind anyone else of Dave Lister?
Ha Ha! Yes! I thought that, exactly.
I'm hoping that they can find a way to keep Tom Cavanaugh on as Dr. Wells himself, once they've dealt with the Reverse Flash. When he's not being evil, I like him, and I'd like him to stay on the team.
One of two things could happen - Barry changes the timeline and stops Thawne killing him or he also absorbed Well's memories and personality and somehow Thawne gets suppressed and Well's takes over the body and mind.
One trouble with the first possibility is that the real Wells would then have to get the particle accelerator up and exploding on Thawne's timetable in order to preserve this alternate timeline, with our younger Flash, that Thawne ended up creating.
Okay, have we all remembered to have bananas on hand for tonight's Grodd episode? :) I finally found a ripe-enough one after going to two stores. I hate it when I want a banana now, and they're all as green as Ireland in spring.
Reading this all I could think of was "Escape From the Planet of the Apes" when they try to get Zira an Cornelius to get the banana hanging over them, and then alter when they alone talk about insulting that was.
Are you saying that I'm species-ist? ;)
Actually, I was remembering the first Grodd appearance on Justice League, when he said that he hates bananas.
Iris is a sanctimonious, hippocritical twit.I've been saying that for several episodes now. Alas - she keeps surviving. Isn't this city teeming with superpowered villains? Sigh...where's Captain Mako when you need him...
I've been saying that for several episodes now. Alas - she keeps surviving. Isn't this city teeming with superpowered villains? Sigh...where's Captain Mako when you need him...
Actually, I was remembering the first Grodd appearance on Justice League, when he said that he hates bananas.He still does... ;D
And are we supposed to believe that the cutting edge scientific facility with all the expensive high tech equipment, the illegally detained metahumans and the super hero who just can't stand to keep his mask on has no security whatsoever? They can't even lock a door?Well, unfortunately, this isn't the first time this has happened - heck, it seems to happen fairly frequently there. So at this point, I'm guessing there is no lock on their front door.
a Sheldon quote which revealed that, this far into the season, HE HASN'T BEEN WATCHING THE FLASH! What's wrong with you, Sheldon??He can't watch The Flash, or he'd have to aknowledge that Sisco sometimes wears Big Bang Theory shirts.
True, the "gotta have everybody know the secret identity" syndrome seems especially prevalent on this show, and Arrow. I like them both, but it gets a tiny bit less fun when there are this many people in their lives that know why they are always ducking out of public events early, or always fashionably later.
I think we just got a first glimpse at what the Justice League will look like... but I Firestorm should really get a costume. He looks weird next to the others.
Also, where was Atom? Arrow got to Central City in time from Nanda Parbat, but Palmer couldn't get bothered?
And doc, I really hope you're wrong, a Flashpoint would seriously mess things up... not only for The Flash but also for Arrow.
The cowl looks like a form fitted piece of plastic; not very elastic.
That said, this isn't the first time on the Flash where logic blinked.
The way the cowl stretches when he takes it off indicates some elasticity.
And while I've only seen through the Grodd Lives episode, I've been thinking for awhile that this might end up with Eobard *becoming* Eddie in the same way he became Wells. That that's his "insurance"...
So true. At first I didn't even realize who it was. I just thought he looked familiar, but wasn't sure from what.
And with the being 'so tall' jokes - its only a matter of time he gets to be the REAL Atom like in the comics.
I highly suspect that Wells is still in control of the scenario. That fight at the end was too quick, and he showed up brazenly looking for it, with no seeming plan or strategy at all. I'm all but sure that as he lost consciousness, he had a big 'ol Light Yagami smile on his face as he whispered "All according to plan."
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Yeah it was. Though was it from the future? or the past? or another timeline?
Wells certainly recognized it.
I was wondering as well..Spoiler for Hidden:
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What's a singularity?
Hahaha! Yeah, reddit has a few threads noting that it shouldn't have been Dr. Snow that asked that question (or that it should have been phrased differently if she had to say it).Well she is a biologist ... working at a particle accelerator. Did she always work there or was she visiting Ronny when it went BOOM! and stayed on to study Barry when he was in the coma? I don't remember. If it was the later then there's an excuse for not knowing.
Well she is a biologist ... working at a particle accelerator. Did she always work there or was she visiting Ronny when it went BOOM! and stayed on to study Barry when he was in the coma? I don't remember. If it was the later then there's an excuse for not knowing.
During ep 16, I wondered why the writers decided to have her be the one to advise Barry on how to stop the tsunami.
Edit: Or, rather, why they decided that she'd be ABLE to advise him on something like that.
Well, Wells was busy killing Cisco so that left her. So if you know a killer Tsunami is heading for the city and the only tool you have is someone with super speed ... run back and forth in front of it seems to be the only course of action anyone would suggest.
What's a tsunami?On the off chance that you're serious and not joking...
On the off chance that you're serious and not joking...
This. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Tsunami?s=t)
On the off chance that you're serious and not joking...
This. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Tsunami?s=t)
r.e. Dr. Snow's knowledge base - just read the latest comic where we find out she helped co-design a manned satellite.Which I would guess be the life support system because of her MEDICAL background and not QUANTUM PHYSICS OR ASTRONOMY.
Which I would guess be the life support system because of her MEDICAL background and not QUANTUM PHYSICS OR ASTRONOMY.
Obviously it was there for the stupid viewers at home who may not know what it is, but still it seemed out of place coming from anyone in that room.Wasn't Eddie or Iris there?
Which I would guess be the life support system because of her MEDICAL background and not QUANTUM PHYSICS OR ASTRONOMY.
Another question - is the future Flash maybe from the timeline Barry altered when he DID save his mom, but it turned out worse and his future self warned him off to put things back the right way?
Either way future Flash shouldn't really exist either anymore after Thawne caused Barry to become the Flash years sooner.
Time travel gives me nose bleeds.
And we STILL don't know why Thawne hates Barry so much to try and kill him.
...a manned satellite.
I think this show might be subscribing to the Doctor Who 'timey-wimey' theories of time.
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I think I've gone cross-eyed.
Another mug raised to Chief O'Brien "I hate temporal mechanics"
Word from Comic Con is that Geoff Johns said Jay Garrick will definitely be in this season of Flash.
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