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Title: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: Thunder Glove on October 05, 2013, 02:11:59 AM
... how much I just want to play CoH again.  Tonight.  Right now.

Even after all this time, there is literally no other game I want to play.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: MaidMercury on October 05, 2013, 03:33:21 AM
yezz.....even visited Livestream and felt like the good 'ol days of Paragon Coffee talks. :D
I may donate to this. I wish anyone luck trying to create something they believe in.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: Thunder Glove on October 05, 2013, 05:02:39 PM
Oh, yeah, I definitely wish MWM the best of luck, and the same for VO.  Heck, I even wish GG the best of luck with HaV.  I can't wait to try all of them out, to see which one (and let me be honest, if any) will finally be the replacement for CoH that I'm looking for.

But knowing that there'll be a new game in a couple of years (assuming everything goes according to plan and there's no disasters or simple loss of interest) doesn't help me when I'm having a long sleepless night where I want to play CoH to help me wind down.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: johnrobey on October 06, 2013, 04:00:28 AM
Quote from: Thunder Glove on October 05, 2013, 02:11:59 AM
... how much I just want to play CoH again.  Tonight.  Right now.

Even after all this time, there is literally no other game I want to play.

I understand.  This is exactly how I feel also.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: JaguarX on October 06, 2013, 04:02:39 AM
Quote from: Thunder Glove on October 05, 2013, 02:11:59 AM
... how much I just want to play CoH again.  Tonight.  Right now.

Even after all this time, there is literally no other game I want to play.

Yup soon you might have three choices or playing three games of the sort at the same time. Hang in there the day is near...well closer than the end of the earth by being swallowed up by the sun. 
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: Mouse-Man on October 07, 2013, 01:58:30 AM
I automatically read the title of this thread as The Circle of Thorns Kickstarter.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: Zombie Man on October 07, 2013, 03:38:13 AM
Quote from: Mouse-Man on October 07, 2013, 01:58:30 AM
I automatically read the title of this thread as The Circle of Thorns Kickstarter.

They need funding to research contract disputes.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: Harlequin565 on October 07, 2013, 12:02:46 PM
Quote from: Zombie_Man on October 07, 2013, 03:38:13 AM
They need funding to research contract disputes.

They need funding to move out of Oranbega and into an office building.

All my heroes would donate!

-H
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: Triplash on October 07, 2013, 02:06:28 PM
Quote from: The_Laughing_Man on October 07, 2013, 12:02:46 PM
They need funding to move out of Oranbega and into an office building.

But where would you even find an office building in the "maddening frigging labyrinth" style? I mean, they're so used to those caves by now; in the straight lines of an office building they'd probably get as hopelessly lost as I always did in their caves.

...... Actually yeah, that sounds fair. Let's see how they like it. In fact, if I could I'd install elevators that randomly teleport them into a janitor's closet. Just because. >:(

Soone enough though, life above ground would take its toll. After a few years they'd rename themselves Circle of Accountants and list themselves in the phone book. They'd have Tax Mages and Mortgage Mages, and Possessed Executives. Instead of Behemoth Overlords they'd summon Attorney Overlords. (Still demons, just with nicer suits. Tailored.) I pity the poor sap who has to teach the Hordelings how to make coffee.

Life moves on, I guess. Even ancient civilizations have to keep up with the times.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: MWRuger on October 07, 2013, 02:52:43 PM
Quote from: Thunder Glove on October 05, 2013, 02:11:59 AM
... how much I just want to play CoH again.  Tonight.  Right now.

Even after all this time, there is literally no other game I want to play.

So very much this.

I pledged, I'll play. BUT I WANT CITY OF HEROES BACK.

There. I said it. I'm hopelessly bound to it, gods help me.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: The Fifth Horseman on October 07, 2013, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: Triplash on October 07, 2013, 02:06:28 PMSoone enough though, life above ground would take its toll. After a few years they'd rename themselves Circle of Accountants and list themselves in the phone book. They'd have Tax Mages and Mortgage Mages, and Possessed Executives. Instead of Behemoth Overlords they'd summon Attorney Overlords. (Still demons, just with nicer suits. Tailored.) I pity the poor sap who has to teach the Hordelings how to make coffee.
I'd pay to see that. I mean, the idea is hilarious and offers some very interesting possibilities - and not all of them comedy.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: OzonePrime on October 07, 2013, 03:45:17 PM
Hoping City of Titans really turns some heads, and that the big companies see what a determined community can do.  :)
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: JaguarX on October 07, 2013, 06:55:06 PM
Quote from: OzonePrime on October 07, 2013, 03:45:17 PM
Hoping City of Titans really turns some heads, and that the big companies see what a determined community can do.  :)
Indeed.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: Hellgeist on October 08, 2013, 02:35:43 AM
Hellgeist likes this.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: PSI-on on October 08, 2013, 12:36:19 PM
Me and my friends feel the same. Nothing compairs. We might play H&V and CoT, but we don't "want" them. We want CoX back, that's where the fun and our hearts lie, everything else will be too different, is too different, or can't possibly be the same.


Quote from: Thunder Glove on October 05, 2013, 02:11:59 AM
... how much I just want to play CoH again.  Tonight.  Right now.

Even after all this time, there is literally no other game I want to play.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: Spellcaster Hana on October 08, 2013, 01:55:46 PM
When I saw the concept sketches of the city, It does have some similar vibe as CoX. But it's hard to conclude something right now and I'll be waiting for the finished product before I could truly decide. I wish MWM good luck!  :D
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: downix on October 08, 2013, 01:58:59 PM
Quote from: PSI-on on October 08, 2013, 12:36:19 PM
Me and my friends feel the same. Nothing compairs. We might play H&V and CoT, but we don't "want" them. We want CoX back, that's where the fun and our hearts lie, everything else will be too different, is too different, or can't possibly be the same.
I know what you mean. One problem all of the planZ projects have to face is mistaking the communities enthusiasm for a successor as enthusiasm for the project. That is a trap too easy to fall into for some.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: PSI-on on October 08, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
Don't get me wrong. It doesn't mean they won't be great games themselves by any means. I do mean though, if they aren't build with CoX as a base, and then built upon it then they won't likely hit that magic "note" and give the same feel. By this I mean stuff like, same sidekick/exemplar system, AE, a big world with nearly as many zones, all the same power sets (read as yes to water blast, but not every power and animation copied), inventory handled same, zones for open PVP (as much as I hated it), badges, well fleshed out AT's, amazing story arcs and ideas, as much customization in powers and costumes, and more as the foundation, and then more added or slightly tweaked to give that special original flavor then it will be hard to live up to the feelings, emotions, and over all experience CoX spent 8 years etching into our hearts and minds. At least that's how I see it. It doesn't mean I won't give these new games a try and neither does it mean that everyone else shouldn't give them a try too, but when i move into those future cities, I don't expect I'll be unpacking my boxes, if you know what I mean. Best of luck to MWM, H&V, and Valiance on however they are going forward on their projects.

Quote from: downix on October 08, 2013, 01:58:59 PM
I know what you mean. One problem all of the planZ projects have to face is mistaking the communities enthusiasm for a successor as enthusiasm for the project. That is a trap too easy to fall into for some.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: Angel Phoenix77 on October 08, 2013, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: Triplash on October 07, 2013, 02:06:28 PM
But where would you even find an office building in the "maddening frigging labyrinth" style? I mean, they're so used to those caves by now; in the straight lines of an office building they'd probably get as hopelessly lost as I always did in their caves.

...... Actually yeah, that sounds fair. Let's see how they like it. In fact, if I could I'd install elevators that randomly teleport them into a janitor's closet. Just because. >:(

Soone enough though, life above ground would take its toll. After a few years they'd rename themselves Circle of Accountants and list themselves in the phone book. They'd have Tax Mages and Mortgage Mages, and Possessed Executives. Instead of Behemoth Overlords they'd summon Attorney Overlords. (Still demons, just with nicer suits. Tailored.) I pity the poor sap who has to teach the Hordelings how to make coffee.

Life moves on, I guess. Even ancient civilizations have to keep up with the times.
can I be the one to train the new heroes? I can yell "come here noobs." :D
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: Triplash on October 08, 2013, 04:52:16 PM
Quote from: Angel Phoenix77 on October 08, 2013, 03:12:59 PM
can I be the one to train the new heroes? I can yell "come here noobs." :D

*thumbs up* Works for me! ;D
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: rezulin on October 09, 2013, 03:22:50 PM
I hope they acutally get enough funding to do the job.  There is another game that is being crowd funded, that I do not feel neccessary to identify at the moment, that just hit its fully funded 21 million mark.  21 million. yeesh!  Now these guys have a new studio, salaries, money for servers, and all the bells and whistles.  And they are still selling digital stuff and adding it to their war chest.

  I would love to see the funding for CoT get to this level.  And H&V. And Valiance.  Just not sure the niche market of a good MMO that actually lets you play with your friends no matter the level difference between them (ya know now that I said that, might be less of a niche market . . .) has enough extra money lying around to fund all 3 projects.

Anyway, Cheers, and congrats of hitting goal.  I know I did my part, though I wonder if I can apply the second part of the duo package to myself . . .

-Fuegocito [Pinnacle]
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: PSI-on on October 09, 2013, 08:52:56 PM
21 MILLION?!! Geez, what game is that?


Quote from: rezulin on October 09, 2013, 03:22:50 PM
I hope they acutally get enough funding to do the job.  There is another game that is being crowd funded, that I do not feel neccessary to identify at the moment, that just hit its fully funded 21 million mark.  21 million. yeesh!  Now these guys have a new studio, salaries, money for servers, and all the bells and whistles.  And they are still selling digital stuff and adding it to their war chest.

  I would love to see the funding for CoT get to this level.  And H&V. And Valiance.  Just not sure the niche market of a good MMO that actually lets you play with your friends no matter the level difference between them (ya know now that I said that, might be less of a niche market . . .) has enough extra money lying around to fund all 3 projects.

Anyway, Cheers, and congrats of hitting goal.  I know I did my part, though I wonder if I can apply the second part of the duo package to myself . . .

-Fuegocito [Pinnacle]
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: downix on October 10, 2013, 01:28:08 AM
Quote from: PSI-on on October 09, 2013, 08:52:56 PM
21 MILLION?!! Geez, what game is that?
Star Citizen.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/ (https://robertsspaceindustries.com/)
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: JaguarX on October 10, 2013, 01:54:59 AM
wow. That is one killer website.

So that crowd funding where they are at 21 million dollars, what website is that funding on and or is it their own set up for crowd funding?
21 million and 240,000 people, remarkable. That number already put them in MMO decent population range already before it even starts.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: downix on October 10, 2013, 02:14:56 AM
They are also a top-notch group of people.
Title: Re: The CoT Kickstarter just reminds me...
Post by: rezulin on October 11, 2013, 01:45:57 AM
Well they started on kickstarter, but after that they went to their own pledge center.  The first Website they had was pretty basic, and it wasn't until they had hmm I think it was around 12 million (umm don't quote me on that, as it may not be correct) that they finally got their current website up and running.

  On the good side, there is LOTS of communication from the Devs [Chris Roberts, who created/designed games like Wing Commander, Freelancer, and Privateer].
 
  On the downside there is still lots of controversy about the level and type of PvP that will be in game, and how it will be looked upon by the ingame athorities.

But enough about that game.  I would also like to get more info from the CoT Devs on how they are doing, with a few more specifics.  Powersets for sale in the store, Archetypes available in the store, Pool Power sets available in the store, and a few other QoL items available in the store that will be earnable ingame.

  Give me a reason to throw more money at this project, because, yes, I actually want value for MY money.  Sure there is the whole altruistic angle, but far, far more good has been done in the name of enlightened self-interest than just about all other reasons combined.  These campaigns are not quite free money, but they are dang close.  The money sent to these projects do not have to be paid back with interest like a loan from a bank or government entity would.  The "return of investment" comes in the form of entertainment, which can be a bit tricky to quantify.

  So Yes, I do want a "Return of Investment", as selfish as it seems, I want to want to invest in these projects, whilist getting something for myself (eventually) when its ready.

-Fuegocito [Pinnacle]