What, if anything, will you be doing to observe August 31; the day we all logged in expecting to while away a long holiday weekend in Paragon City with our friends and our creations, only to see.... THAT MESSAGE.
Quote from: Eoraptor on August 12, 2013, 05:24:41 PMWhat, if anything, will you be doing to observe August 31; the day we all logged in expecting to while away a long holiday weekend in Paragon City with our friends and our creations, only to see.... THAT MESSAGE.
August 31? I don't know. November 30? If there's still no place I can rejoin my friends and acquaintances from the game, I will fire up Icon to load the reconstruction of Pakfront, my first character and the one that I saw the game shut down on, and take her to the Rikti War Zone to the Rikti mothership where she was in the middle of a ship raid when the server was shut down, and then to Atlas Park, and spend some time remembering what we have all lost.
We ought to do a "twitter event" both days! Flood the PC waves!
I considered calling for some sort of event but 1.) I'm not much of an organizer, and B.) with only three weeks to go, it would be hard to arrange much.
I've been thinking of writing a Facebook post in an attempt to explain what the game mean to me. Champions Online's anniversary is 09/01 so I'm hoping that there will be some things going on there to distract me.
I hadn't really thought about it. But now that I am, all I can think of is loading up Icon, going to the City Hall steps, spawning in each and every one of my alts, and holding my own private unity rally.
Either /e holdtorch, or maybe /e laptop to represent reading the terrible news.
... or maybe /e popdance, cause screw them anyway 8)
nothing planned on that day.
That weekend, I will be out of town and, presumably, away from Internet. I made a copy in CO of my CoH main, an Invincible, after the shutdown. I've been playing more frequently in the past couple of weeks. Now I know why. :)
We should get groups of 4 together in other games and spell out AP33 on our chests!
I am currently working on my e-mail list to get some of my old friends to gather. We are looking to gather on September 8, the Anniversary of the Unity rally, possibly on duplicates of our mains (if possible) on Champions Online.
I would love to see how many would like to come.
I can get behind this.
I'm not sure if taking it into other games would be the right choice exactly. If we got to many people on and over loaded their servers I don't think the people who play the game would be overly appreciative. Idk much about servers so maybe this isn't an issue. Whatever we do we should make sure we aren't to bad a nuisance to other players. We should be seen, but not hated, ya? That being said, I would attend a gathering in Champions.
Maybe we could do a unity rally type thing where everyone posts pictures of their mains holding up the torch on facebook and whatever else?
I believe that Champions uses instanced zones if there are too many people, and I have seen hundreds in one zone. That being said, I don't want to cause bad blood with another game and I don't believe this will. Of course, we could max their servers. But That might be wishful thinking...
Wow... a whole year.
*cries* :'(
Quote from: Ellscry on August 14, 2013, 11:23:53 PM
I believe that Champions uses instanced zones if there are too many people, and I have seen hundreds in one zone. That being said, I don't want to cause bad blood with another game and I don't believe this will. Of course, we could max their servers. But That might be wishful thinking...
Yea. As long as we don't go out of our way to crash their servers I think it'd be alright. Maybe just limit the gathering to people who actually play champions? Though that might limit it to much.
Each instance of an outdoor zone takes 100 people.
Please be aware that a new account must have a level 10 character to unlock all basic costume options (I hate this, too.)
Millennium City has a City Hall that should be safe for low level players. There is also a large park overlooking Westside.
I believe Champions Online's Anniversary is 09/01 so be aware of that as well.
Vyolet, who did the newest Legacy site had this idea to do a new letter writing.
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Here's the idea I had. Whatchathink?
Of course, you cannot cut out the eyes otherwise the letter will be returned to you.
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Quote from: OzonePrime on August 12, 2013, 06:25:03 PM
We ought to do a "twitter event" both days! Flood the PC waves!
Personally, I like that idea more than crowding any other MMOs with our rallies for two reasons.
First, not everyone who got dragged kicking and screaming from CoH went to other MMOs, some just lost interest in them entirely because of how NCSoft soured the experience in the end. Then there's the fact that not everyone who enjoyed CoH went to the same MMOs because a lot of people didn't like the vastly different styles those games offered (I know for a fact that most of my SG didn't like CO or DCUO for instance, and only a handful liked STO, most of the rest I think wondered off entirely and I don't think they're really playing any MMOs anymore). This means we might be too scattered in some senses to make a real impact like the unity rally was. Basically, since not everyone plays the same games, any rally we hold in a game would be much reduced, and perceptively relay to those communities that our efforts are failing and losing momentum, even if it's not the case. It's easier to get people to unite in large numbers if it's something everyone can access easily, of which Twitter is, where as not everyone has certain MMOs installed on their computers, let alone have accounts for them. Add in all the chat restrictions for free players in most games, and those people won't really be able to do too much except stand there and look pretty on their level 3-10ish characters(depending on the game and when they let you leave the starting area/tutorial zones).
Second, I doubt that NCSoft would even notice, or care, if we rallied in other games, and it's possible that a majority of players from those games might not care about our rally either since they still have their games at present, so what exactly would it accomplish to hold it there? We want our presence to be known and acknowledged that we're not going away, not shrugged off and ignored because our organized efforts are too scattered and uncoordinated to make a real impact.
Quote from: Shenku on August 15, 2013, 03:00:03 PM
Personally, I like that idea more than crowding any other MMOs with our rallies for two reasons.
First, not everyone who got dragged kicking and screaming from CoH went to other MMOs, some just lost interest in them entirely because of how NCSoft soured the experience in the end. Then there's the fact that not everyone who enjoyed CoH went to the same MMOs because a lot of people didn't like the vastly different styles those games offered (I know for a fact that most of my SG didn't like CO or DCUO for instance, and only a handful liked STO, most of the rest I think wondered off entirely and I don't think they're really playing any MMOs anymore). This means we might be too scattered in some senses to make a real impact like the unity rally was. Basically, since not everyone plays the same games, any rally we hold in a game would be much reduced, and perceptively relay to those communities that our efforts are failing and losing momentum, even if it's not the case. It's easier to get people to unite in large numbers if it's something everyone can access easily, of which Twitter is, where as not everyone has certain MMOs installed on their computers, let alone have accounts for them. Add in all the chat restrictions for free players in most games, and those people won't really be able to do too much except stand there and look pretty on their level 3-10ish characters(depending on the game and when they let you leave the starting area/tutorial zones).
Second, I doubt that NCSoft would even notice, or care, if we rallied in other games, and it's possible that a majority of players from those games might not care about our rally either since they still have their games at present, so what exactly would it accomplish to hold it there? We want our presence to be known and acknowledged that we're not going away, not shrugged off and ignored because our organized efforts are too scattered and uncoordinated to make a real impact.
OK, first, it doesn't matter if we play the game. In a F2P game like Champions, we can all make an account, make a character, run through the tutorial (which, granted, is annoying), and then we gather in some large venue where we can just hang out, maybe run around a little (there should be enough of us who do play and have some higher level characters to team with the visitors) and see what the place is like. Think of it as a reunion, rather than a gameplay session. Not everyone who goes to a reunion is there for the venue.
Second, who gives a flying touque about NC$oft. This is about us and our game and remembering what we've lost. Sure it's in a "public" place, but that's only so that we can get together in a way that is reminiscent of how we used to. And, we sure as hell aren't showing support for Cryptic or Champions (or the studio or game of wherever we decide to do it), because it's a one-time thing. Sure, their servers will show a spike, but it'll be over in a few hours, and everything will be back to normal. :)
The event idea in champions can be good and bad.
Before it have been processed, I assumed, people thought about how they would have felt if WoW vanilla players held a WoW centric event in COX zones? If they are fine with it cool.
Now things to keep in mind. First and foremost, CO is not Champions and not everyone on champion liked or cared for COX. Even some ex-coxers players in CO may not be too keen on the whole movement thing, thus do not be overly sensitive and or condescending to those that may not partake or just don't get the purpose. That right there will sink the view of any movement in a game. Some people like to hold a family reunion in France then get there and start dissing everything about France and how their old reunion place that burned down is way better than France and etc. Don't do that. Well of course I cant demand that don't be done, but I can tell you and know that it wouldn't be good way to get the point across.
And don't be generally disruptive or make it obvious that the only reason many are there is to high jack the bandwidth of a game as an advertisement for this movement. That will cross the line in many people eyes.
And lastly don't forget respect. Respect that is demanded for the "right" to gather, respect those that may not want to be or see a point in it. Assume good faith. Some people that attend and do these movements in public get way too snappy too quickly and immediately view everything that is not praise as an attack.
Come to think of it, I think Captain Electric pulled one of these off not long ago. It was out of the way, didn't force it upon anyone in the zone or the chat channels, didn't diss people that chose not to attend to didn't see the point and didn't worry about NCSOFT. It can work, but overall just respect the fact that it's in another game and think how people would have reacted if WoW players bogarted COX servers, because they wanted to protest changes.
Quote from: dwturducken on August 15, 2013, 06:18:30 PM
OK, first, it doesn't matter if we play the game. In a F2P game like Champions, we can all make an account, make a character, run through the tutorial (which, granted, is annoying), and then we gather in some large venue where we can just hang out, maybe run around a little (there should be enough of us who do play and have some higher level characters to team with the visitors) and see what the place is like. Think of it as a reunion, rather than a gameplay session. Not everyone who goes to a reunion is there for the venue.
Second, who gives a flying touque about NC$oft. This is about us and our game and remembering what we've lost. Sure it's in a "public" place, but that's only so that we can get together in a way that is reminiscent of how we used to. And, we sure as hell aren't showing support for Cryptic or Champions (or the studio or game of wherever we decide to do it), because it's a one-time thing. Sure, their servers will show a spike, but it'll be over in a few hours, and everything will be back to normal. :)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a bad idea to hold rallies in some select MMOs, I'm just pointing out that it may be harder to organize on the same scale as anything remotely AP33 level.
And the reason I brought up the issue of many former CoH players not playing the games being discussed here is that not everyone is necessarily willing to spend 2+ hours creating an account, downloading installing and patching a game, followed by another 20 minutes to an hour to get out of the non-optional tutorials(something I greatly miss from CoH, the ability to skip the tutorial if you didn't want to go through it again...), just to play the game for 2-3 hours for a rally and never touch it again... Some people don't see a point in wasting all that time installing the game to only play it once, especially if they already know they don't like that kind of game. I knew people from my SG who outright refused to try DCUO because it was too much like a fighting/beat-em-up game... By picking such games, you're already limiting who's going to be able to attend, so that's why I think a "Twitter event" or something similar would have more effect.
On point 2, it's not really that we "care" about NCSoft or what they think about us. We know they don't care about us, that's why they kicked us to the curb like an old TV just because they have a new shiny plasma screen(Guild Wars 2, Blade and Soul, exc.). The point is that it's more about making a highly visible public statement, which is that we're still here, we're still not happy with NCSoft, and that we're just not going away no matter how much they wish we would.
I also don't want you to think I'm opposed to the social media aspect.
I'm definitely supportive of a Twitter campaign.
All we need are the right slogans and hash tags.
#respawncoh
I apologize if I started something controversial. Some of my friends whom I played with and I have e-mails for were talking about getting together to catch up, and doing it on a free to play so we could all get together. The idea was to do it on the anniversary of the Unity Rally just because it is a significant date for us, but we never intended to be disruptive.
I took it upon myself to post this here, when I saw the topic, because I thought it would be nice if other people wanted to show up and talk about the old days.
I am pretty sure in the original scope of things, we would not be disruptive, but if a hundred people log in it may be. I am pretty sure we will do our best to not bother people though.
CO players are heroes, too. You have my support.
Quote from: Eoraptor on August 12, 2013, 06:45:40 PMwith only three weeks to go, it would be hard to arrange much.
Three weeks is plenty of time! Heck, you could start a twitter campaign with three
days to go. But that's only for Twitter. Something else would probably require more planning.
If memory serves, the Unity Rally came together in a matter of days. Many of us follow each other on Twitter. Shouldn't be hard. Hell, a couple of years ago, governments were toppled in matter of days, thanks in large part to Twitter.
I like Vyolet Roses' Superhero Mask. ;D
Think I'll cut that image out on card stock and wear it around the house.
We need to add #ncsoft to all the twitter messages. It's a legal way to be annoying.
I've been drinking, so I won't actually post what I'm thinking, but we could throw "#ncsoft" or, worse, "@ncsoft" into some REALLY inappropriate tweets. Like, stuff that would give Trey Parker grey hairs. Just sayin', we should still keep it clean. :)
Quote from: dwturducken on August 18, 2013, 02:45:07 AM
I've been drinking, so I won't actually post what I'm thinking, but we could throw "#ncsoft" or, worse, "@ncsoft" into some REALLY inappropriate tweets. Like, stuff that would give Trey Parker grey hairs. Just sayin', we should still keep it clean. :)
yeah.
Remember the target of annoyance should be NCSOFT if that route is taken and not the reader.
Like protest against meat. One way to do it is to show that meat companies are vicious.. Another way to do it is to throw rotten meat at people. The first way, may intrigue people and might have people interested in the cause. The second method while most visible probably will turn off people from the cause and the message is lost.
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Buy their products?
I don't ever plan on ever TRYING their products!
On board for whatever we decide to do.
If nothing else I fully plan to use ICON to fly around every major City Zone.
I'm still trying to get characters together for a pic xD So far I've gotten none other than my own. :/
I still can't get over the sheer ...shock I felt when I logged in one day and read that message.
It was around for 8 years and still going strong - that was the last thing I ever expected to see.
I actually started to cry a little thinking after 8 years of playing, leveling a lot of 50's, spending who knows how much money for extra powers, costumes, etc, would be all gone, forever.
I logged in a few times to take screens and chat with people but I had no more motive or heart to bother doing Incarnates or leveling up my last few level 47 - 49 heroes. I felt - what was the point of all the work?
So I just enjoying chatting, visiting zones and such and didn't really bother with missions.
If there's to be an observance vigil in Champions, I have a Fusionette tribute who simply has to be there. (I had one in CoH, and couldn't leave her behind.) Just say when, and what instance and location in what zone.
Whatever event we decide on to observe Black Friday, I'm there.
If only I can figure out to how to get some of my CoH characters into Icon and onto the steps of City Hall. /emholdtorch
Quote from: Super Firebug on August 26, 2013, 01:00:21 AM
If there's to be an observance vigil in Champions, I have a Fusionette tribute who simply has to be there. (I had one in CoH, and couldn't leave her behind.) Just say when, and what instance and location in what zone.
This is something I hadn't considered. I have a reproduction of my "main" and a reproduction of States, but I was leaning toward using my CO-original character for this. Now you've given me something to think about... :)
So all when it comes down to it my group will be meeting in Champions on the 8th, and on Skype for those who don't want/have the game.
For those that do want to meet up in game we are planning to meet in Millenium City, in the Champions building (It should be on the map, and it is a separate zone *I believe* so as to minimize our impact) on Sunday September 8 from 3-6PM Eastern.
If you want to come, please do. We will do our best to be respectful.
Have to be there in spirit. Could never get past the character creator in Champions.
I'll try to be there. Can't say for sure though, two days before that something pretty major is happening and settling after that might leave my time limited, but I'll try my best to come.
Quote from: OzonePrime on August 26, 2013, 06:23:27 PM
Have to be there in spirit. Could never get past the character creator in Champions.
I don't blame you. Its a pain in the posterior.
nope... CO wants a three hundred odd meg patch. and on my 256k connection that's more effort or time than I care to expend.
I tried, but just couldn't get into CO. Perhaps we could start a special 'One Year' thread here as a meeting place just for that day. (It can be closed after the end of day.) We can have a virtual buffet....favorite beverages, salads, main dishes etc. We can also give virtual gifts and share stories and pics.
Quote from: healix on August 27, 2013, 08:03:52 AM
I tried, but just couldn't get into CO. Perhaps we could start a special 'One Year' thread here as a meeting place just for that day. (It can be closed after the end of day.) We can have a virtual buffet....favorite beverages, salads, main dishes etc. We can also give virtual gifts and share stories and pics.
Maybe we could do something like that on skype?
Quote from: healix on August 27, 2013, 08:03:52 AM
I tried, but just couldn't get into CO. Perhaps we could start a special 'One Year' thread here as a meeting place just for that day. (It can be closed after the end of day.) We can have a virtual buffet....favorite beverages, salads, main dishes etc. We can also give virtual gifts and share stories and pics.
I really like this idea.
What you're hearing right now is the sound of me not objecting to people reminiscing in a thread here.
I REALLY dislike Skype. Let's do it here. That way, others who might be interested but don't know of it could see it and participate. If it's only on Skype then many will miss it.
yeah, heard many mixed reactions to Skype. Many people don't use it for various reason. Me, I not sure I understand how it works and their written policy enough to feel comfortable using it. But hey, if the meeting place is Skype, I'm all for it and will be happy still with the after event run down of how it went.
Why not Skype and here?
I would have to look, but there might be a limit to how many people can be in a call. I know my Friday night group occasionally got 8 of us together at once, and we had minor connection issues, but nothing serious. Just the occasional cutout and one guy who had a Sergio Leone-esque reverb. We were all on different internet providers, so it could have been an issue with one of them.
I think the idea of a Twitter event is the best idea.
I am in a minority in that I despise Twitter and Facebook, so I will be posting here.
Quote from: healix on August 29, 2013, 10:09:15 PM
I am in a minority in that I despise Twitter and Facebook, so I will be posting here.
Consider me also part of this minority. I don't like social media in general - if I want people to know stuff about me, I'll tell 'em myself.
I'll gladly post here, though.
Yea. I'm in that boat as well. A bit of a hypocrite since I have a facebook, but the amount other people were relying on it to "tell" me about events in my life forced me to get one.
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Quote from: healix on August 29, 2013, 10:09:15 PM
I am in a minority in that I despise Twitter and Facebook, so I will be posting here.
I can't stand them either. I did make a Facebook account just so I could get the facepalm emote, but now I use it to gather news from several game companies in one place and that's it. Someone managed to talk me into trying it for a while last year, but it seemed like with each month that passed they removed another useful feature. Right now it makes me think that if I want to find it effective, I need to forget what the word "effective" means.
I sort of thought the point of observing the event on Twitter (or Facebook) would be to gain a bit of publicity again, remind people what happened.
Quote from: Felderburg on August 30, 2013, 04:45:31 PM
I sort of thought the point of observing the event on Twitter (or Facebook) would be to gain a bit of publicity again, remind people what happened.
well given the daily posts on NCSOFT facebook page, I dont think people forgot.
https://plus.google.com/110443013547390365152/posts/epfoYPmBCGG
this shall be most of my observance. If you're on G+ please reshare it and note the hastags #saveCOH and #respawnCOH
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Quote from: Eoraptor on August 31, 2013, 05:03:50 AM
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One year, and we are still here
Torches still lit...we will not quit
Stay strong everyone.
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That Wentworth pic made me want to share this with you..
Wentworth's/Black Market - eBay Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md3EwFSB7eo)
Soooo. How did it go?
>.< I actually had a party on the day. Unrelated to city, but it was probably for the better that my mind wasn't dwelling on it.
I've been under the weather for a while, myself. My brother was staying with us for a few days and decided to leave behind his flu when he left. (Yaaaay. >:( ) I've barely been able to handle more than sitting up straight since like, Friday. So no memorials for this guy.
Then again I've been leaning more towards markign the Rally's anniversary anyway. And on the upside, like Punkus said, it's probably best my mind wasn't on it.
*shrugs* But hey. One day's not a big deal in the long run. In my opinion it matters every time we do something to remember. :)
Quote from: Ellscry on August 26, 2013, 02:27:43 PM
So all when it comes down to it my group will be meeting in Champions on the 8th, and on Skype for those who don't want/have the game.
For those that do want to meet up in game we are planning to meet in Millenium City, in the Champions building (It should be on the map, and it is a separate zone *I believe* so as to minimize our impact) on Sunday September 8 from 3-6PM Eastern.
If you want to come, please do. We will do our best to be respectful.
Fusi and I will be there!
Quote from: Super Firebug on September 08, 2013, 02:09:56 AM
Fusi and I will be there!
I'll be there on Void Summoner, but probably for the after party. I won't be on until 8pm central. :-\
I'll show.
Quote from: healix on September 02, 2013, 10:29:48 AM
That Wentworth pic made me want to share this with you..
Nice video..
Weird Yal still cracks me up....
>sigh< brings a tear to my eye to see
Paragon while flying.