Lets see if we can keep this one open :-)
Quinch (who is also in the middle of a house move) is currently taking a look at the pitch to see if it needs altering in the wake of the Google+ games closure.
I've been in touch with Vyolet, who is putting together a 'the story so far' website. She hopes that the site will be completed in 2-3 weeks.
So I'm looking for indications of if you think we should wait for Vyolet's website (http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,8322.0.html) to go live before we send the pitch out, or if you're happy for it to go out once we've made any necessary alterations because of the Google+ games thing.
My vote is to send the pitch out. I fear the contact growing cold. Plus once we start sending Google letters, next thing you know, the site will be up.
Normally, I'd say wait and coordinate, but this pitch has already been a while in the waiting. I think we need to establish contact with the contact, and send the package asap.
EDIT: Also, if Google does decide to approach NC$oft, I think that would be the perfect time for the ads/webpage to be up. Reminding NC that ... yup, we're still here! Hopefully creating enough pressure that they actually release the bleeping IP...
My initial response is to send the pitch out, provided any references to Google Play are adjusted/removed first. My main reasoning for this is that it will probably take weeks for the right people to get it and really look it over (after all, they aren't going to immediately fling everything else off their desks when the correct recipients finally receive it). By then, hopefully Vyolet's website will be brand-spanking-new and up, to coincide with any outside emails/letters from us that Google will get. And if Vyolet's site doesn't go up, it doesn't go up. We're no worse off, and the pitch hasn't been held up any longer than it would have anyway.
I vote send the pitch. We can start sending out mail. The site will probably be up about the time they have received and read the proposal.
My own instinct is to send it now. That may be impatience talking, but putting this proposal together has taken longer than expected on all sides, and, like others, I worry about whether Google is even still waiting.
I'd post more, but it'd just be dumping frets and worries about all the things that could go wrong, so I'll just say: send it. :D
Send the pitch as soon as you can, Google+ games won't change much at the moment, I'd think.
I dont see what sending it out can hurt. I'd send it.
Send it. Once we have any kind of reply back that it was recieved we can start doing our thing.
I vote Just send out the pitch once it's had it's look-over/alterations. by the time the guy begins considering the pitch Vyolet's website should be close to finished.
Quote from: Joshex on May 20, 2013, 06:40:13 PM
I vote Just send out the pitch once it's had it's look-over/alterations. by the time the guy begins considering the pitch Vyolet's website should be close to finished.
This. He's been waiting quite awhile for that pitch now. He isn't going to jump on it as soon as it falls into his hands. As long as you're 100% sure it's good to go... then send it
Send the pitch now. Given the time frame that it's being worked on, there is no harm to saying "We are also working on a web site and it will be ready in X time". In fact, it may be detrimental to wait until we have all of our ducks lined up and loaded, and fire them all at once. Launch the first flock now, and keep following with more "And here is more that we just finished" regularly, so that it bubbles to the top of the to-do lists of people who are making decisions. As long as the follow-ups are real, and not just made for news.
Hey guys! Love to hear the updates. Just wanted to drop a happy note of encouragement. Thank so much for doing this for us! :D It's really amazing to see everyone working so hard. Good luck and keep us posted!
If Google falls through, consider trying with Yahoo.
Why?
1) Yahoo clearly wants to spend lots of money for anything remotely connected to 'social networking'.
2) One of CoH's big strengths was it's community which could be considered as 'social networking'.
3) CoH already had an in-game mechanism for displaying advertisements.
4) Advertisements could be added to the loading screen.
Quote from: saipaman on May 20, 2013, 11:31:49 PM
If Google falls through, consider trying with Yahoo.
Why?
1) Yahoo clearly wants to spend lots of money for anything remotely connected to 'social networking'.
2) One of CoH's big strengths was it's community which could be considered as 'social networking'.
3) CoH already had an in-game mechanism for displaying advertisements.
4) Advertisements could be added to the loading screen.
yup.
Of course probably leave off the google pitch part in the yahoo pitch or any mention of google.
send it in already.. step one is to find out if they are even interested..
ummm.... not to make it take any longer than it already has but I would like to mention that maybe the Google Glass should be addressed in the pitch.
I could forsee the mention of at least a costume part (head detail) that is in the shape of the google glass.
in addition, there should be some addressing of how the google glass could be used to interface with CoH stuff through google's website, this may have laready been discussed but I thought why not bring it up again to make sure it wasn;t excluded.
I vote to send it now.
Speaking of Yahoo, they seem to be taking a page from Microsoft in order to shore up their lack of innovation as of late. I can't help but envision CoH becoming a "pay to win" model under the guise of Yahoo.
Quote from: saipaman on May 20, 2013, 11:31:49 PM
If Google falls through, consider trying with Yahoo.
Why?
1) Yahoo clearly wants to spend lots of money for anything remotely connected to 'social networking'.
2) One of CoH's big strengths was it's community which could be considered as 'social networking'.
3) CoH already had an in-game mechanism for displaying advertisements.
4) Advertisements could be added to the loading screen.
I think Yahoo might be tapped out just now. 8)
But I was reading about the Tumblr acquisition last night, about which there seems to be uniform angst - except amongst Yahoo staff. Anyway, in one comment section some guy posted a picture of what Tumblr is likely to look like shortly after Yahoo takes the reins: it was hilarious, because it was true.
He drew a picture of the 'home" Tumblr screen and it had Yahoo! tags all over it.
"Brought to you by Yahoo!"
"Powered by Yahoo! mail!"
"Yahoo! friends!"
"Yahoo! mail"
"Yahoo! music"
"Yahoo! news!"
"Yahoo! stock quotes!"
"Flickr! Powered by Yahoo!"
"Horoscopes! Y shine!"
"Featured Yahoo! videos!"
Anyways there were like 50 tags, and its funny 'cause its true. If Yahoo! were to buy CoX, they would be a very heavy, immersion-breaking presence in the game. Now, at this point I want our game back so badly, I would tolerate that. But streamlined and elegant, Yahoo! is not. [I also think this Tumblr acquisition will turn out to be a financial disaster for them, but my opinion is meaningless in the scheme of things.]
Yahoo didn't do Flickr any good, that's for sure.
I think that we should wait for a while. Put up a website and some ads. Maybe go have some ice cream.
I'm kidding! Stop! Don't hit me!
Quote from: Illusionss on May 21, 2013, 04:16:38 AM
I think Yahoo might be tapped out just now. 8)
But I was reading about the Tumblr acquisition last night, about which there seems to be uniform angst - except amongst Yahoo staff. Anyway, in one comment section some guy posted a picture of what Tumblr is likely to look like shortly after Yahoo takes the reins: it was hilarious, because it was true.
He drew a picture of the 'home" Tumblr screen and it had Yahoo! tags all over it.
"Brought to you by Yahoo!"
"Powered by Yahoo! mail!"
"Yahoo! friends!"
"Yahoo! mail"
"Yahoo! music"
"Yahoo! news!"
"Yahoo! stock quotes!"
"Flickr! Powered by Yahoo!"
"Horoscopes! Y shine!"
"Featured Yahoo! videos!"
Anyways there were like 50 tags, and its funny 'cause its true. If Yahoo! were to buy CoX, they would be a very heavy, immersion-breaking presence in the game. Now, at this point I want our game back so badly, I would tolerate that. But streamlined and elegant, Yahoo! is not. [I also think this Tumblr acquisition will turn out to be a financial disaster for them, but my opinion is meaningless in the scheme of things.]
yahoo is for yahoos simple as that, I browse it regularly so I can BS about the news.
Yahoo is my "trash" email. I use that email address for anything I have to sign up for online. I tried to get the username "spamtrap," but someone beat me to it. :)
For all reasons already cited.....send it! :D
Quote from: Spatch1971 on May 21, 2013, 08:34:41 PM
For all reasons already cited.....send it! :D
I agree...send it. Also for all the reasons stated before me, avoid Yahoo!
Unleash the Kraken! (i.e., send it)
( ' :
Send it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ssqtyzqluo
Not really my area of expertise, but I would go with everyone else on it may as well send it.
Re: send it, yes.
Re: Yahoo!, it's hilarious that ya'll are being picky about your longshots.
Not trying to pick a fight, but come on. Seriously? If Yahoo! Wanted to help bring our game back, you all would look down your noses and say, "No?"
Mind you, it wouldn't be up to us, and I don't think we'll ever be in that spot to begin with; but whoever does decide to help us is bound to be a surprise out of left field at this point (that's our only hope now, after all, a surprise out of left field).
Don't you think anyone receiving a pitch (and anyone they speak to at the watercooler and so on down the line) has a non-zero chance of seeing this very conversation? Here we are, expressing how beneath us some forms of business and/or monetization might be.
You best hope we don't picky ourselves right out of a potentially beneficial (i.e. savior of our game) relationship.
Part of the reason for this new thread was the indication that we needed to check ourselves before posting.
Everyone we could possibly contact is a longshot, and for each and every one, we need them more than they need us; otherwise we'd be flying the skies of Paragon City by now. Our demeanor should reflect nothing but gratitude in advance, and if a monetization scheme ever turns out to be so horrifying that we'd rather leave CoH buried, we can cross that bridge when we come to it.
Alright. In a valiant attempt to keep this thread on track:
The consensus seems to be that we send the pitch as soon as it's ready, so that's what we'll do.
At the moment, I'm waiting on Quinch to decide if we need to change anything. As I mentioned in a previous post, Quinch is currently in the middle of a rather epic house move, but hopefully he'll get to it shortly. Soon as he gives the OK, I'll get this sucker moving. In the mean time, try not to fall out with each other ;)
Quote from: Captain Electric on May 22, 2013, 10:50:58 AM
Re: send it, yes.
Re: Yahoo!, it's hilarious that ya'll are being picky about your longshots.
Not trying to pick a fight, but come on. Seriously? If Yahoo! Wanted to help bring our game back, you all would look down your noses and say, "No?"
Mind you, it wouldn't be up to us, and I don't think we'll ever be in that spot to begin with; but whoever does decide to help us is bound to be a surprise out of left field at this point (that's our only hope now, after all, a surprise out of left field).
Don't you think anyone receiving a pitch (and anyone they speak to at the watercooler and so on down the line) has a non-zero chance of seeing this very conversation? Here we are, expressing how beneath us some forms of business and/or monetization might be.
You best hope we don't picky ourselves right out of a potentially beneficial (i.e. savior of our game) relationship.
Part of the reason for this new thread was the indication that we needed to check ourselves before posting.
Everyone we could possibly contact is a longshot, and for each and every one, we need them more than they need us; otherwise we'd be flying the skies of Paragon City by now. Our demeanor should reflect nothing but gratitude in advance, and if a monetization scheme ever turns out to be so horrifying that we'd rather leave CoH buried, we can cross that bridge when we come to it.
heh I'm all for yahoo, I just joked that it's a place for yahoos cause thats how most people seem to treat it.
Honestly the only thing I'd expect of whoever takes us is they don't fall into the more questionable practices we've seen in MMO's today(like Pay to win, and over-pricing lock boxes ect). A given CoX limited you alot but they didn't make "this and this and this, oh you have to spend 100 dollars to win!". Perfect world has been doing that to CO and it's been, honestly, worrying as I fear its been hurting the game significantly.
So correct me if I am wrong, but the pitch won't be sent still for a little bit? I ask because if anyone wanted to work some sleepness nights to get the ad campaign going it could probably still be done at the same time. I don't want to suggest anyone work their behind off unless they wanted to though. I understand not wanting to work EVEN more then most of us probably do heh. However if I can help in anyway for the ads lemme know, my specialty is music and audio engineering(not sure those are relevant)
Quote from: Joshex on May 22, 2013, 01:57:16 PM
heh I'm all for yahoo, I just joked that it's a place for yahoos cause thats how most people seem to treat it.
Errr, sorry then pal, I misunderstood. Carry on! Nothing to see here! :-[
Quote from: LaughingAlex on May 22, 2013, 06:15:07 PM
Honestly the only thing I'd expect of whoever takes us is they don't fall into the more questionable practices we've seen in MMO's today(like Pay to win, and over-pricing lock boxes ect). A given CoX limited you alot but they didn't make "this and this and this, oh you have to spend 100 dollars to win!". Perfect world has been doing that to CO and it's been, honestly, worrying as I fear its been hurting the game significantly.
THIS however is the kind of stance that I was referencing above. And again, not picking a fight with YOU, but with the general stance. And here's what I mean: Take Champions Online, Star Trek Online, and Neverwinter, for example. All of those games drop lock boxes (and even sell them in NW's case, as the drops are less frequent there, and yes people buy them). Many of those lock boxes contain items that will give you a direct advantage inside the game.
Now, do you want to know what the many, many thousands of fans of those games have that we don't? A GAME. And many of those fans are former City of Heroes players. All three Cryptic games have hoovered up refugees (take a look at the Other Games section). And while I preferred Paragon Studio's "Super Packs" model, the lock boxes aren't as terrible as some other schemes out there. I've gotten less than 10 lock boxes dropped on me in the two weeks that I've been playing NW. I wouldn't mind a bit if someone said, "We're bringing your game back--with lock boxes!" Because you know what the alternative is--you're looking at it. Also keep in mind, lots of City of Heroes players HATED the Super Packs. They called them "gamble packs" on the forums. How many of you stopped playing because of those?
And Rae, I do agree this is off-track, but not terribly so. Fact is, if someone came into our community and said something like, "Hey folks, I'm a pretty small publisher compared to what you're used to, so we're going to have to make some changes just to be able to afford to run your game, so here's my plan to make City of Heroes totally F2P--what do you think?" If someone came around and said that, and this community replied with an ungrateful "Boo hiss!", I'd never forgive it. (I'm talking about a knee-jerk "boo hiss", not a carefully considered "boo hiss".)
Also please don't overlook Taceus Jiwede's post above. It actually is perfectly on track and needs an answer.
Quote from: Taceus Jiwede on May 22, 2013, 07:32:00 PM
So correct me if I am wrong, but the pitch won't be sent still for a little bit? I ask because if anyone wanted to work some sleepness nights to get the ad campaign going it could probably still be done at the same time. I don't want to suggest anyone work their behind off unless they wanted to though. I understand not wanting to work EVEN more then most of us probably do heh. However if I can help in anyway for the ads lemme know, my specialty is music and audio engineering(not sure those are relevant)
It really depends on Quinch, at this point. If he gives me the nod, it can go in a matter of minutes. If he thinks it needs an edit, it'll be a while longer.
Sorry, that's not helpful, is it? At a guess, I'd say there's a little time. I'll drop him a line and see where he's at.
I remember the last time I saw Yahoo's presence in a game...
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.pso-world.com%2Fimages%2Fguides%2Fep4mags%2FBB-YAHOO_MAG-ACTION-1-FULL.jpg)
Do you think they'd give us some kind of banner pet that boosts inf/exp/prestige/rare drops so you'd have more incentive to have it out at all times?
Maybe we can get Pizza Hut to rally to our cause too 8)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=bumped.org%2Fpsublog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F01%2Fpizza-hut-weapon1.jpg)
Pan Pizza Powerset?
Pizza shield powerset?
Alright. Quinch thinks we don't need a re-write. I'm going to give it a final read through and get the covering letter written, and we're all set. Work is pretty manic for me tomorrow, but baring unforseen circumstances getting in the way, the pitch will be with Google before the weekend is out.
I'll let you know when it's gone.
Quote from: LaughingAlex on May 22, 2013, 06:15:07 PM
Honestly the only thing I'd expect of whoever takes us is they don't fall into the more questionable practices we've seen in MMO's today(like Pay to win, and over-pricing lock boxes ect). A given CoX limited you alot but they didn't make "this and this and this, oh you have to spend 100 dollars to win!". Perfect world has been doing that to CO and it's been, honestly, worrying as I fear its been hurting the game significantly.
The only means of approaching Pay2Win for CoH that I could think of was selling level 50s, as we were already able to buy IO sets with Real Money®, and even that's spotty since level-capping was laughably easy if you had farmer friends or enough Influence (Freedom level 50 record was, what, three hours during a double XP weekend? DXP Weekend + buyable XP Buffs + Anything I overlooked), lol
Quote from: Rae on May 23, 2013, 07:40:17 PM
Pizza shield powerset?
Alright. Quinch thinks we don't need a re-write. I'm going to give it a final read through and get the covering letter written, and we're all set. Work is pretty manic for me tomorrow, but baring unforseen circumstances getting in the way, the pitch will be with Google before the weekend is out.
I'll let you know when it's gone.
YAY. keep us all updated on anything google says. gee I wish there was some sort of tracking system for stuff like this, lol Google Executive tracking: what are the bigshots talking about doing today?
If they're anything like Wozniak, just follow them on Twitter, and you'll know where they like to eat dinner. :D
Quote from: Joshex on May 23, 2013, 10:56:39 PM
YAY. keep us all updated on anything google says. gee I wish there was some sort of tracking system for stuff like this, lol Google Executive tracking: what are the bigshots talking about doing today?
The new google App :P
I say send it! Fortune favors the bold. :)
Quote from: Captain Electric on May 22, 2013, 10:50:58 AM
Re: send it, yes.
Re: Yahoo!, it's hilarious that ya'll are being picky about your longshots.
Not trying to pick a fight, but come on. Seriously? If Yahoo! Wanted to help bring our game back, you all would look down your noses and say, "No?"
Nope. I would not say no; but it would be immersion-breaking to see "YAHOO!" on the side of every building. 8)
Like I said earlier, I would tolerate it to get our game back. But at this point, my hopes are on a private server, because I dont trust Yahoo! either. My trust for large corporate entities is low at the moment. They mean none of us well.
But for the game, I would tolerate them.
Just pretend that a villain named 'Yahoo' is vandalizing the City.
;D
Yahoo is happy if someone remembers they exist.
Any chance we get some highlights as to what is in the pitch ??
I don't know how much I'm allowed to say - I'll ask HRH Mercedes if there is anything I can shared.
I did take a number of ideas from your post, so a huge, huge thank you for that.
Hope it works and please start working on the next pitch to the next target !!!
That's already underway :)
Quote from: Joshex on May 21, 2013, 02:55:47 PM
yahoo is for yahoos simple as that
I worked at Yahoo! for two years. Employees of Yahoo! call themselves, internally, Yahoos.
I should also mention that I unsuccessfully attempted to get anyone at Yahoo! interested in games. My take was that Facebook rose to prominence in no small part due to its gaming-platform aspect. And Yahoo! did already have a games section - it just wasn't very well integrated with anything else.
Given how that turned out, I think the chances of Yahoo! being even remotely interested in City Of are as close to zero as you can measure with finite precision.
Yahoo! wants to be about media - they want to be the middleman for online journalism. That's their nature and the strength they're trying to build back up. Everything they do is about putting that story back together. They're not going to be interested in funding a fantasy world because they want to sell information about the real one.
Google on the other hand is interested in building itself out as the technology platform that powers the world. Google I/O pointed to their interest in the games market, and there are rumors that even deeper investments in that direction are coming. As long shots go, Google seems much more likely to me to pay off.
Finally, I suppose I should mention Amazon, since I work there now, and we do actually have a game development company. However, I don't see Amazon getting deep into gaming the way Google seems to be. We also tend to be cheapskates when it comes to acquisitions. On the other hand, the tech behind a successful MMO has to be pretty amazing - I could almost see Amazon buying City just for the real time synchronization capable of resolving competing powers activations on a real-time schedule.
- Kris
Jeez, I left out the obvious: Microsoft. Has anyone pitched to them? Of the bunch, they seem the most likely of all.
City Of on the Xbox One... Stranger things have been known to happen.
I *might* be able to find a contact at MS for this, if that would be helpful.
Quote from: kgiesing on May 26, 2013, 12:20:29 AM
Jeez, I left out the obvious: Microsoft. Has anyone pitched to them? Of the bunch, they seem the most likely of all.
City Of on the Xbox One... Stranger things have been known to happen.
I *might* be able to find a contact at MS for this, if that would be helpful.
If city of heroes come out on Xbox or any console and can be played with out the need to hunt down a group of people and or internet, I'll buy four copies to the game, and two xbox Ones full price with a 20% tip for each in for kick the same they release it with no questions asked.
Hey, didn't Microsoft originally plan to publish and then eventually dump out on Marvel Universe Online by Cryptic, before it was rezzed and suddenly became Champions Online? :o I'm not sure they'd be too interested in anything else Cryptic did, especially not in anything nine years old. Microsoft's track record with funding MMOs is terrible, actually. I think they've dumped out on every one they ever started out backing, Vanguard also among them.
I'd take a pass on MS to be honest.
And is anyone, anyone at all, actually doing THE most important thing in all this and contacting NCSoft to somehow try and get them to sell? All this "pitch" stuff is, at the end of the day, putting the cart before the horse.
It's too bad a "Your game could be next" ad campaign couldn't be run side-by-side whenever and wherever NCSoft runs a Wildstar, Blade & Soul or any other NCSoft MMO ad. We could list in it all the games they've already shut down. Now that would make more than a few gamers think twice about investing any time or money into NCSoft. And I guarantee you NCSoft would notice that kind of advertising as well!
Quote from: Surelle on May 26, 2013, 01:06:35 AM
And is anyone, anyone at all, actually doing THE most important thing in all this and contacting NCSoft to somehow try and get them to sell? All this "pitch" stuff is, at the end of the day, putting the cart before the horse.
This is what I been thinking.
But I think part of the pitch from what I gather, is that it's hoping that Google/Yahoo/MS/Fred that lives in the basement will get the pitch idea from here, contact NCSoft and make an offer and or work their magic and hope the "star" power of Google/Yahoo/MS/Fred that lives in the basement can get something moving or make it seem it is something for ncsoft to gain if they sale.
Quite frankly all this "We are goign to give them bad PR" and stuff aint goign to convince them. They probably dotn give a crap about a group that is not even thier intended customers anymore thinks. SO far, the rest of their games seem to be doing decently well and thus the closing didnt shake too many people on that end of the sea or here from joining their games. Which was to be expected.
But hopefully the likes of Google/Yahoo/MS/Fred that lives in the basement can give it a good try. Hell, NCSoft, being no weak corporation themselves and up there in size with the best of them might just say no and call it a day. And if NCSoft dont want to sell, then there isnt nothing Google/Yahoo/MS/Fred that lives in the basement can do. But hopefully this will get a clear indication if they have no intentions on budging.
Me personally if i had the likes of Google banging at my door about a product I probably wouldnt sell to easily myself as if Google or the likes is after it, it means it must be something valuable. And that may be the very well side affect of this that even if NCSoft says no, there probably no chance anyone that isnt major have a chance of getting them to sell. It's like "Google wanterd it and I turned them down, so why should I even entertain you? You? Who are you? I dont recall seeing you on the Fortune 500 top 50 or even the top 500 for that matter."
But at this point all we can do is try and see what happens. After the pitch goes out, it's basically in fate's hands. And if Google/MS/Yahoo/Fred that lives in the basement bites, then it's up to NCSoft. Hope they make them an offer they cant refuse. *ahem* we do have plenty of desert out here in these parts if Google need any for a few "laundry bags"
The pitch went out yesterday :-)
I'm just waiting for some info from Mercedes on the best address for you guys to send postcards/letters to, and then I'll past those details along :-)
Quote from: Rae on May 26, 2013, 07:17:04 AM
The pitch went out yesterday :-)
I'm just waiting for some info from Mercedes on the best address for you guys to send postcards/letters to, and then I'll past those details along :-)
Ready!
Quote from: Rae on May 26, 2013, 07:17:04 AM
The pitch went out yesterday :-)
I'm just waiting for some info from Mercedes on the best address for you guys to send postcards/letters to, and then I'll past those details along :-)
Congratulations and best of luck ( ' :
This is great news!
*cracks knuckles*
Waiting for further instructions.
I have my paper and Number 2 pencils ready!!
F7! err, um, I mean, READY! :P
Quote from: Rae on May 26, 2013, 07:17:04 AM
The pitch went out yesterday :-)
I'm just waiting for some info from Mercedes on the best address for you guys to send postcards/letters to, and then I'll past those details along :-)
It's in googles hands now, please don't fail..
Woohoo! :D
*crosses fingers.... ...and toes.... ...and eyes :o ... *
Time for more paperwork! Let me at it. ;)
Quote from: saipaman on May 25, 2013, 03:42:09 AMJust pretend that a villain named 'Yahoo' is vandalizing the City.
www.geocities.com (http://www.geocities.com) :'(
Quote from: kgiesing on May 26, 2013, 12:20:29 AMJeez, I left out the obvious: Microsoft. Has anyone pitched to them? Of the bunch, they seem the most likely of all.
City Of on the Xbox One... Stranger things have been known to happen.
I can easily see Microsoft releasing City of Heroes on the Xbox One... and
only on the Xbox One. Bungie was developing
Halo for the PC and Macintosh when Microsoft bought Bungie and turned the game into the flagship for the original Xbox, heavily modifying it into an FPS game; a year after it was released, Gearbox released a port to Windows (and a year after that for MacOS), but none of the sequels were released for any platform other than the Xbox/Xbox 360.
Yes, I can easily see Microsoft doing this. Why just control the MMO when you can control the hardware it runs on?
Quote from: srmalloy on May 28, 2013, 06:52:08 PM
I can easily see Microsoft releasing City of Heroes on the Xbox One... and only on the Xbox One. Bungie was developing Halo for the PC and Macintosh when Microsoft bought Bungie and turned the game into the flagship for the original Xbox, heavily modifying it into an FPS game; a year after it was released, Gearbox released a port to Windows (and a year after that for MacOS), but none of the sequels were released for any platform other than the Xbox/Xbox 360.
Yes, I can easily see Microsoft doing this. Why just control the MMO when you can control the hardware it runs on?
not only that, there is a clear line we must draw, we are computer gamers, we are an entirely different crowd than console gamers, trust me when I say this, you don't want that crowd influencing the next stages of CoH. it will be like the transition from Teen Titans to The New Teen Titans GO!........................................... - god save us from that fate.
ok thats one reason. reason 2;
Microsoft is The King of all Unicorns, and the internet is thier Unicorn Pit. Microsoft keeps the cake for themselves and passes out slices at thier unmonitored security and call centers in india. yes the same service centers that recieve your crash reports and call you a few days later if you have a phonenumber linked to your account and say "oh you have a terrible virus we are from microsoft, your computer only has 1 week left of run time and we're surprised it's still running right now we'll help you get rid of the virus but you must buy one of our Care packages they are as low as $140 per month."
mind you those same call centers also supply most of the MMO industry's gold sale sites like [link removed]
they also supply gold spam in world chat in your favorite games, and spam emails, internet pyramid schemes, the fake secret shopper company that has you test western union by sending some random person $1000. oh and did I mention in thier spare time they bot games and hack PVP to PWN anyone who tries to get PVP items? oh lets not stop there either, you know all those survey sites and sites claiming to offer a free $100 gift card? yeah sorry to have to tell you this but the call centers run those too.
[EDIT: don't link to gold spam sites! ~Agge]
I am going to agree that Microsoft isn't the sort of company that we want heading the CoX ship. Yahoo! could be an option, though I would think of them as a last resort.
Meh, to me who ever would work. I wouldnt count them out. Like when people dogged CO all day and night on the forum but when COX went down, they were the first to go to CO.
I have more worries about Google than Microsoft, but the way I figure, who ever can get the job done and maybe get the game back. They all are suspect in their own way especially with information selling, privacy protection (wasnt there a big news thing about Google about a year ago and privacy how weak their protection was and ended up changing their privacy notice and the founders basically saying they dont give a crap about people's information or privacy. I have the article saved on my cpu somewhere.). But even that with my internal nervousness about COX becoming a personal information mine for Google to spread around and have ads and unwanted phone calls from it and credit card information too, I still think that if there is a chance they bite, then it should be sought.
I thought we would have learned to not burn or count out bridges especially before they are even built because it can come back to bite especially in this case where the chances are slim anyways and might need Microsoft, might need Yahoo, might need Uncle Bob that lives in the barn help, especially if Google dont work out. I hope it does, and I assume by now we all know it's no guarantee, so why count out the other options before even exploring them? Google isnt a saint of a corporation by any means and liable to buy it and sit on it or change it to where it's only the same game in title but no semblence to the game that was left and have to use google social media to sign up to use the game and must go through a 2 minute google ad between zoning in and out and signing in and out and pop up links for all we know. Google if they buy it, will be looking to make money and probably more money than NCSoft expected to make like any corporation of Yahoo and microsoft.
"A little evil, a lot of evil, midly evil, slightly evil either way it's still evil."
Quote from: JaguarX on May 28, 2013, 11:08:27 PM
Meh, to me who ever would work. I wouldnt count them out. Like when people dogged CO all day and night on the forum but when COX went down, they were the first to go to CO.
I have more worries about Google than Microsoft, but the way I figure, who ever can get the job done and maybe get the game back. They all are suspect in their own way especially with information selling, privacy protection (wasnt there a big news thing about Google about a year ago and privacy how weak their protection was and ended up changing their privacy notice and the founders basically saying they dont give a crap about people's information or privacy. I have the article saved on my cpu somewhere.). But even that with my internal nervousness about COX becoming a personal information mine for Google to spread around and have ads and unwanted phone calls from it and credit card information too, I still think that if there is a chance they bite, then it should be sought.
I thought we would have learned to not burn or count out bridges especially before they are even built because it can come back to bite especially in this case where the chances are slim anyways and might need Microsoft, might need Yahoo, might need Uncle Bob that lives in the barn help, especially if Google dont work out. I hope it does, and I assume by now we all know it's no guarantee, so why count out the other options before even exploring them? Google isnt a saint of a corporation by any means and liable to buy it and sit on it or change it to where it's only the same game in title but no semblence to the game that was left and have to use google social media to sign up to use the game and must go through a 2 minute google ad between zoning in and out and signing in and out and pop up links for all we know. Google if they buy it, will be looking to make money and probably more money than NCSoft expected to make like any corporation of Yahoo and microsoft.
"A little evil, a lot of evil, midly evil, slightly evil either way it's still evil."
google removed my favorite picture from the image search back in 2004... I can't find it at all now.... I had saved it to a disk but the disk got warped when i was moving down into the heat of the southern us and the disk wont read.. i threw it out.. it was very hard to throw away the last reference to my favorite picture ever.. yeah google can be rough, but... meh.. I even contacted them abotu the picture recently telling them I'll pay $100 if they can find it.. sadly they said they can't help with that issue.
still I think CoH will be safer in google's hands then NCSoft's.
Quote from: Joshex on May 29, 2013, 12:10:22 AM
still I think CoH will be safer in google's hands then NCSoft's.
Yup. I think so to.
I someone offered a choice and said, "look you can sit here in the nothingness where you know what will happen, nothing at all nosuprises no worrying about the future, it's the world of nothing. Or you can go out and risk it all and might end up in a position where you are begging for nothingness or you might end up in a position that is more glorious than you ever seen."
What would City of Heroes, if it was aware and could say so, what choice you think it will choose?
Fingers crossed, and awaiting further instructions.
Almost final Google video is up at http://youtu.be/V75ADN7BKM4. I noticed that the Rikti dialog is not at the max size, I'll fix it tonight.
Suggestions are still welcome.
I want this game back so much...please, Google, please buy our game.
I like it, Kalynnda!
Heh, Luck Charms vs university fees... :-)
Quote from: kalynnda13 on May 29, 2013, 05:32:01 PM
Almost final Google video is up at http://youtu.be/V75ADN7BKM4. I noticed that the Rikti dialog is not at the max size, I'll fix it tonight.
Suggestions are still welcome.
I want this game back so much...please, Google, please buy our game.
I think this is awesome! Great effort!
Awesome video. Just seeing the streets of Paragon City left me wanting more. Please Google, make this happen.
Quote from: kalynnda13 on May 29, 2013, 05:32:01 PM
Almost final Google video is up at http://youtu.be/V75ADN7BKM4. I noticed that the Rikti dialog is not at the max size, I'll fix it tonight.
Suggestions are still welcome.
I want this game back so much...please, Google, please buy our game.
Good work. The Freakshow dialog also seems a little small.
Quote from: Rae on May 26, 2013, 07:17:04 AM
The pitch went out yesterday :-)
I'm just waiting for some info from Mercedes on the best address for you guys to send postcards/letters to, and then I'll past those details along :-)
I am so ready! :D
Quote from: srmalloy on May 28, 2013, 06:52:08 PM
I can easily see Microsoft releasing City of Heroes on the Xbox One... and only on the Xbox One. Bungie was developing Halo for the PC and Macintosh when Microsoft bought Bungie and turned the game into the flagship for the original Xbox, heavily modifying it into an FPS game; a year after it was released, Gearbox released a port to Windows (and a year after that for MacOS), but none of the sequels were released for any platform other than the Xbox/Xbox 360.
Yes, I can easily see Microsoft doing this. Why just control the MMO when you can control the hardware it runs on?
And what's this I hear about the new Xbox, that it has some special camera that monitors the room it is in 24/7 and will include facial recognition software, as well as infrared monitoring so they can monitor your heart rate/bloodflow -which allows them to judge how excited/involved you are with the game? they need to know this so they'll know if you'll pony up for paid content.
Its like George Orwell's nuttiest nightmare. And the new Playstation just as bad.... It'll be interesting to see how well the public ponies up for these machines.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/05/28/germany_privacy_chief_peter_schaar_calls_xbox_one_a_twisted_nightmare_for.html
QuoteAnd what's this I hear about the new Xbox, that it has some special camera that monitors the room it is in 24/7 and will include facial recognition software, as well as infrared monitoring so they can monitor your heart rate/bloodflow -which allows them to judge how excited/involved you are with the game? they need to know this so they'll know if you'll pony up for paid content.
I've heard this as well. Which to be honest I don't mind people finding ad's I would be interested in (which is what they claim its for) but I don't like the idea of just inviting Microsoft into my house to listen to everything I say and do. Hopefully there is a way to make it so that isn't active. However, if the camera is always on and filming then that means I need to wear silly costumes or just no clothes at all for the new system. If they wanna watch me all the time, then by god they will get a show!
Quotenot only that, there is a clear line we must draw, we are computer gamers, we are an entirely different crowd than console gamers, trust me when I say this, you don't want that crowd influencing the next stages of CoH
Don't even start this subjective battle lol. I am not a PC gamer, I am a gamer. Plain and simple. I love the consoles and I like computers too, I have been playing games my whole life on every and any system including computers. And there is nothing wrong with console games they just don't suite your personality. The idea that "console" gamers are a different breed or somehow ruin gaming its just not true especially when almost every game made these days isn't console specific it is just a game that can be played on many different systems. Publisher's ruin games, not gamer's. One day though, Steam will change this all when they gap the bridge.
Now of course I am not saying you should like consoles or that you are wrong for not liking consoles. Either you like them, or you don't. But to objectively say that console games/gamers just aren't at the same level of quality, or dare I say, purity of a computer game/gamer's I just very strongly disagree with that, it is a matter of personal taste. I know you didn't say this, and you were just saying you don't want CoH to be influenced by console gamers. But it does imply that a computer game, CoH, could only be made worse by console players. I agree CoH would not be better off if made to suit a console, any MMO made for consoles have been generally pretty limited. But it is not because of the players, it is because of the way the console works and with the exceptions of MMO's the are pretty much the same thing in terms of gaming, most games are actually designed for both.
OP: Hope to hear good news back from Google. Thanks again for writing the pitch and setting this up VV and Team wildcard.
They'll have to be pretty up-front about any "always on" monitoring tech, or they'll face so many privacy lawsuits that even Microsoft would be bankrupt. And if they really do monitor all the time, turning it off will still be as easy as unplugging it. I don't think you should HAVE to do so, mind. I'd likely not want to buy a product where the only way to ensure my privacy was to completely de-power it.
QuoteI don't think you should HAVE to do so, mind. I'd likely not want to buy a product where the only way to ensure my privacy was to completely de-power it.
Ditto. To everything you said. But especially that part.
Quote from: Taceus Jiwede on May 30, 2013, 05:56:04 AM
I've heard this as well. Which to be honest I don't mind people finding ad's I would be interested in (which is what they claim its for) but I don't like the idea of just inviting Microsoft into my house to listen to everything I say and do. Hopefully there is a way to make it so that isn't active. However, if the camera is always on and filming then that means I need to wear silly costumes or just no clothes at all for the new system. If they wanna watch me all the time, then by god they will get a show!
Don't even start this subjective battle lol. I am not a PC gamer, I am a gamer. Plain and simple. I love the consoles and I like computers too, I have been playing games my whole life on every and any system including computers. And there is nothing wrong with console games they just don't suite your personality. The idea that "console" gamers are a different breed or somehow ruin gaming its just not true especially when almost every game made these days isn't console specific it is just a game that can be played on many different systems. Publisher's ruin games, not gamer's. One day though, Steam will change this all when they gap the bridge.
Now of course I am not saying you should like consoles or that you are wrong for not liking consoles. Either you like them, or you don't. But to objectively say that console games/gamers just aren't at the same level of quality, or dare I say, purity of a computer game/gamer's I just very strongly disagree with that, it is a matter of personal taste. I know you didn't say this, and you were just saying you don't want CoH to be influenced by console gamers. But it does imply that a computer game, CoH, could only be made worse by console players. I agree CoH would not be better off if made to suit a console, any MMO made for consoles have been generally pretty limited. But it is not because of the players, it is because of the way the console works and with the exceptions of MMO's the are pretty much the same thing in terms of gaming, most are actually designed for both.
OP: Hope to hear good news back from Google. Thanks again for writing the pitch and setting this up VV and Team wildcard.
I am a general gamer too, don't get me wrong when I say console gamers, I don't mean all of them, but you must admitt theres alot of Unicorns who make the console games bad by supporting them regardless of quality. Fanboys.. no offense, the bad kinda fan boys the ones with terrible ideas.
do you want to know when and why videogames went down hill?
It was the middle of the N64 era, Nintendo went out to multiple random public venues and asked a bunch of little turds what they would like the future of videogames to be like. the options were as follows;
More Realistic OR More Adventure AND Better Play Value.
can you guess what the majority said? "realistic yay!!!"
nintendo and other developers took that as a sign that from that point on thier games could suck royally so long as they looked halfway realistic, then Game Cube era, Miyamoto tested LOZ the wind waker to see if what the kids meant as 'realistic' just meant smooth graphics not necessarily real people.
can you guess what kind of conclusions he would bring to the game developer's conference that year?
yeah, blame it all on the corporate |84574RD5 , you have to admit there are some pretty naive contributors to the fan base, so many in fact that they tend to overwhelm the polls that game companies usually hold about bettering games.
I can just see it now;
Microsoft forums/City_of_heroes/Suggestions/
Topic: MOAR srysly
Body: I wan lik MOAR LVs and lik I wanna PWN PVP, seriously blasters should one shot tanks and have lik full def and res and lik i wan a bunny mount.. an lik PVP should have like rewards based on a point system like each kill gets you 1 point and lik with 10,000 you can buy special mega rare items you can;t get anywhere else and you need them to level past 60 and stuff.
100k replies with such fine comments as "trudat" "lik LOL wat I love EET" "DUDE LIKE PERFECT" "buy gold at MMOGOLD DOT COM 100 M inf for $1" "TIS WIL LIK TOTLY PWNZRS"
- shudder -
please no.
I know not all consolers are like that, there are a good quantity who are really good minded people about issues, but they get drowned out by the UNICORN masses with 10 fake accounts each.
QuoteI know not all consolers are like that, there are a good quantity who are really good minded people about issues, but they get drowned out by the UNICORN masses with 10 fake accounts each.
Yes, fair enough Joshex:) There are many cases of people who aren't big gamer's kind of ruining it for the bigger gamer's because these publisher's try to make them more "general public friendly" which lets face it. Gamer's like you and me don't want 100 Call of duties.
Quote from: Taceus Jiwede on May 31, 2013, 05:07:32 AM
Yes, fair enough Joshex:) There are many cases of people who aren't big gamer's kind of ruining it for the bigger gamer's because these publisher's try to make them more "general public friendly" which lets face it. Gamer's like you and me don't want 100 Call of duties.
I'm the same way, I wouldn't want city of heroes to become like every other mmo by losing the depth it had, like support being about much more than just healing, or how every archtype had secondary debuff effects in the attacks for example. Honestly my biggest fear is those two things being lost in general; I honestly as it is hate seeing how support is litterally nothing more than healing in CO.
Quote from: LaughingAlex on June 01, 2013, 09:09:21 PM
I'm the same way, I wouldn't want city of heroes to become like every other mmo by losing the depth it had, like support being about much more than just healing, or how every archtype had secondary debuff effects in the attacks for example. Honestly my biggest fear is those two things being lost in general; I honestly as it is hate seeing how support is litterally nothing more than healing in CO.
well there is actually a lot of support powers and buffs, there is bubble buffs, like force field, debuff removal power (dont think COX even had one of those.), then there is a confuse power (I think only seen one person use it ever), then there is enemy damage debuff powers, and yeah majority of supposrt seems to be healing but not all. Yet, most people in support seem to take heal only and call themselves support. Only time I mostly see the other support toons are ones that usually run solo and use it for their own survival.
CO is abotu as much away from the holy three as just about any game but yet many still play with the mindset of the holy three, of support means heal, damage means only dps tank only mean defense. When in CO you can be all or none of those in one toon.
The powers are out there but it's up to the player to choose them or not. Most just choose the heals and ignore the debuffs/buffs. That is some thing no game mechanic can change unless ya go back to the holy three or pure AT structure, which I think is a little old fashioned and very limiting in toon customization.
Quote from: JaguarX on June 01, 2013, 09:32:27 PM
well there is actually a lot of support powers and buffs, there is bubble buffs, like force field, debuff removal power (dont think COX even had one of those.), then there is a confuse power (I think only seen one person use it ever), then there is enemy damage debuff powers, and yeah majority of supposrt seems to be healing but not all. Yet, most people in support seem to take heal only and call themselves support. Only time I mostly see the other support toons are ones that usually run solo and use it for their own survival.
CO is abotu as much away from the holy three as just about any game but yet many still play with the mindset of the holy three, of support means heal, damage means only dps tank only mean defense. When in CO you can be all or none of those in one toon.
The powers are out there but it's up to the player to choose them or not. Most just choose the heals and ignore the debuffs/buffs. That is some thing no game mechanic can change unless ya go back to the holy three or pure AT structure, which I think is a little old fashioned and very limiting in toon customization.
Well when I refer to "holy trinity" in CO I'm referng to the archtypes, they are all forced into only one of those three, only some hybrids break that, and even then they are rarely good at anything. Freeforms certainly break from it but even so, when it comes to support POWERS in that game crowd control is just useless; the mobs you CAN use it on are just to fragile for it to matter. If CoX was revived to be honest I highly doubt the buffs would get nerfed unless say, we got some scrubs(yes, using that word) who cry that buffs/debuffs are cheap because they are making their "pure healer" useless and somehow the devs who took over listened to that(in that case it was they would have to be out of touch with what paragon studios did for us.). I just can't stand it how "support" in other mmo's had become to mean healing and nothing else.
Quote from: LaughingAlex on June 02, 2013, 02:11:48 AM
I just can't stand it how "support" in other mmo's had become to mean healing and nothing else.
As long as people defining it that way and only choosing healing as the only support it will remain. As I said, in CO, there are plenty of choices. Some might just require going beyond playing for free and or buy a freeform slot to get more support choices, but the choice is there.
Cant play for free and expect everything that is available to those that paid be available to those that choose not to pay. So yes, it's only natural that freebies be pigeoned holed into limited choices. But if they pay a measly $15 a month or get the freeform slot, they have more variety and not "forced" into the holy three.
I think crowd control works on everything but super villains and up. And many of them are actually useful and last a decent time. The difference between what many are probably used to is that you can hold a mob to death, which imo is a cheap way to fight for the enemy mob and players. Thus since holds and control are not the usual auto win, many say they are useless when in fact they can be very useful. I do find it odd that for super villains up they are totally useless and dont think you can even stack them in CO.
In COX that is just about how any nerf/buff gets started. From the MoG change to the regen nerf to the blaster "improvements" and etc. And somewhere someone thinks the ones calling for any change is scrubs or worse. If that is the case than 99% of the COX population that ever suggested, asked for whined, or wanted a change to something and said so is a scrub. The term scrub is in the eye of the beholder and usually spoken by where the change may affect a person in a negative way or in a way that is different from what they are used to and like. But at the same time if people took the term scrub to heart or decided to not ask for change do to fear of being called a scrub by someone somewhere, then COX would still be in issue 1 if that with no updates.
Or maybe this your time to shine. Create a support toon that is not pure healer and show them how it can be done. Although dozens of people beat ya to it already in CO. Seek them out and team with them and see how they make controls buffs and debuffs work and you'll see they are not so useless and only heals are support.
Quote from: Taceus Jiwede on May 30, 2013, 05:56:04 AM
I've heard this as well. Which to be honest I don't mind people finding ad's I would be interested in (which is what they claim its for) but I don't like the idea of just inviting Microsoft into my house to listen to everything I say and do. Hopefully there is a way to make it so that isn't active. However, if the camera is always on and filming then that means I need to wear silly costumes or just no clothes at all for the new system. If they wanna watch me all the time, then by god they will get a show!
*snerk*
...but seriously, this is why I am a PC gamer and will always be one: my PC might lack the cool factor, but it also lacks a camera.... and it lacks facial recognition technology. WIN!
I'm sort of paranoid, and I cant shake the feeling that these companies - including Facebook - want to get us used to the idea of continuous monitoring. Then it will expand, and it really will be an Orwellian nightmare.
Quote from: JaguarX on June 02, 2013, 02:24:26 AM
As long as people defining it that way and only choosing healing as the only support it will remain. As I said, in CO, there are plenty of choices. Some might just require going beyond playing for free and or buy a freeform slot to get more support choices, but the choice is there.
Cant play for free and expect everything that is available to those that paid be available to those that choose not to pay. So yes, it's only natural that freebies be pigeoned holed into limited choices. But if they pay a measly $15 a month or get the freeform slot, they have more variety and not "forced" into the holy three.
I think crowd control works on everything but super villains and up. And many of them are actually useful and last a decent time. The difference between what many are probably used to is that you can hold a mob to death, which imo is a cheap way to fight for the enemy mob and players. Thus since holds and control are not the usual auto win, many say they are useless when in fact they can be very useful. I do find it odd that for super villains up they are totally useless and dont think you can even stack them in CO.
In COX that is just about how any nerf/buff gets started. From the MoG change to the regen nerf to the blaster "improvements" and etc. And somewhere someone thinks the ones calling for any change is scrubs or worse. If that is the case than 99% of the COX population that ever suggested, asked for whined, or wanted a change to something and said so is a scrub. The term scrub is in the eye of the beholder and usually spoken by where the change may affect a person in a negative way or in a way that is different from what they are used to and like. But at the same time if people took the term scrub to heart or decided to not ask for change do to fear of being called a scrub by someone somewhere, then COX would still be in issue 1 if that with no updates.
Or maybe this your time to shine. Create a support toon that is not pure healer and show them how it can be done. Although dozens of people beat ya to it already in CO. Seek them out and team with them and see how they make controls buffs and debuffs work and you'll see they are not so useless and only heals are support.
Crowd control in CO is just, non existent and they don't have any damage-mitigating buffs other than aura of protection sadly, generally nothing that goes along the line of the theme of my characters. I do know a few nasty tricks to quickly tear down mobs using debuff effects of some attacks and specializations. But debuffs only seem to be effective at the single-target level cause henchmen/villains/master villains all tend to be(except for master villains) weaker then CoX's minions to me :(. Btw: I say crowd control is non-existent in CO cause henchmen/villains die so fast and do so little damage that there isn't even a reason to do so.
As for CoX some criticism is good, but I think it was the efforts of those who went out of there way to make non-healing support that set the standard for CoX. When I usually speak of a "scrub" usually i'm refering to someone who just says "X is overpowered because it's more efficient then my Y, so nerf X because my Y is balanced" rather then looking at why his stuff may be underpowered, or even worst he doesn't even learn how to use his own powerset(alot of empaths made that mistake sadly, at least they thought they were better at it than they really were I guess). Heck, I even pondered if some sets like empathy needed a buff in the face of some sets like time manipulation, but I would hate to see any powerset nerfed.
Quote from: Illusionss on June 02, 2013, 06:42:25 AM
*snerk*
...but seriously, this is why I am a PC gamer and will always be one: my PC might lack the cool factor, but it also lacks a camera.... and it lacks facial recognition technology. WIN!
I'm sort of paranoid, and I cant shake the feeling that these companies - including Facebook - want to get us used to the idea of continuous monitoring. Then it will expand, and it really will be an Orwellian nightmare.
yeah, the government and companies in general have been monitoring us for a long long time, you may not be aware of this but cable TV goes both ways as does sattellite, you recieve and send messages at high speed, and get this, your TV screen can be used to recieve light from outside and send that data back down the line (like a camera), oh and not sure if you ever tried this but try plugging your headphones into your microphone jack and speak into them, it's the same technology so headphones and speakers can be used to capture sound and transmit that back down the line.
Facebook, Facebook is run by a CIA agent, well he was a CIA agent when he first started it, now he's retired but Facebook is used to directly monitor who you are and who you are affiliated with and what you and your friends think and are talking about.
thats why I use ficticious information when I sign up for sites like facebook.
My name is Joshex Dirad
I'm 300 years old or as old as it allows me to choose
I live in caves, castle 5 on planet/asteroid SR388 from the metroid series
and my favorite hobbies are mad science and world domination, oh and abductions of farm folk those are always fun.
race? Other; I has tentacles.
I also use Tor as a web browser for such things and also might view them through a webproxy.
I will not be buying a microsoft console if they have face recognition ETC. heck I don't even have a TV any more (just one for video games no signal for actual TV. why?
you may find this hard to believe but when I was a teenager we had analog TV and the unbelievable part was that I would sometimes talk about my ideas outloud (as mad scientists do) to myself, while watching the saturday morning cartoons. I would talk them out in great detail during the commercials to help myself gain a better understanding of the topics I was pondering. (it helps to speak it out loud so you can hear it, it makes it more memorable) anyways guess what, not a week later some corporation had then filed a patent on said ideas and was now making advertisements for thier services in commercials.
kid yourself not, big business can move at light speed if they want to steal an idea. "hey patent agent heres $3000 I want you to draw out this patent and get it notarized, oh and my company will be rushing the project I just hired 20,000 programmers yesterday as temporary one week workers, and have them working on it, we'll publish it tomorrow as patent pending." goes to film commercials in 4 days.
the part I don;t uderstand is how they heard what I said through a wireless analog connection.... unless they were monitoring the backflow from the powerline and it contained some sort of residual information....?
anyways since then I no longer speak out my ideas infront of TVs that are plugged in. and the outcome is no one has been able to steal my ideas ever again.
One thing I will do infront of a TV screen now is criticise the news reports and videogames that I think are garbage. I don't watch other TV shows. thats only in the rare case I go somewhere where someone actually is watching TV.
Final Google video is at http://youtu.be/jB7kETvmQkI. I will be sending it out Tuesday to Mr. Patel.
I really hope that this video, plus all the letters and postcards we are sending, will let Google know what a dedicated community we have.
Kalynnda, that's beautiful. I hope this works as well as it certainly has the potential to do.
Love it! Great job!
I've been avoiding CoH videos, because they make me homesick, but I made an exception.
Beautiful work :-)
Quote from: kalynnda13 on June 02, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Final Google video is at http://youtu.be/jB7kETvmQkI. I will be sending it out Tuesday to Mr. Patel.
Like Rae, I've been avoiding CoH videos, but that was fantastic.
Still made me horribly sad, but with just enough hope to soften the blow.
Quote from: kalynnda13 on June 02, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Final Google video is at http://youtu.be/jB7kETvmQkI. I will be sending it out Tuesday to Mr. Patel.
I really hope that this video, plus all the letters and postcards we are sending, will let Google know what a dedicated community we have.
I cried. That means it's working! :)
Quote from: kalynnda13 on June 02, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Final Google video is at http://youtu.be/jB7kETvmQkI. I will be sending it out Tuesday to Mr. Patel.
I really hope that this video, plus all the letters and postcards we are sending, will let Google know what a dedicated community we have.
Beautiful video!!!! That was just
AWESOME!!!! 8)
I wish I had a fraction of the talent some of you folks have!!! I have that glimmer of hope, yet again, which I did not think was possible. Many thanks to everyone trying their best to get our home back. Several family members have asked me to extend love to you all.
Quote from: kalynnda13 on June 02, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Final Google video is at http://youtu.be/jB7kETvmQkI. I will be sending it out Tuesday to Mr. Patel.
I really hope that this video, plus all the letters and postcards we are sending, will let Google know what a dedicated community we have.
Nice job! I just began a job in film editing(Had never done it before a month ago or so but shhhhhhhh) so I appreciate all the time this must of taken. I know how tedious editing can be and how FREAKING long rendering can be! Thanks for spending your free time doing this.
Nicely done, gj to you and the others that put in the time to create it.