Does anyone have a link to the current EULA? I'd rather not have to cut and paste from the client splash screen. Thanks!
Last version that the wayback machine can find is 15 months old:
http://web.archive.org/web/20110726060432/http://us.ncsoft.com/en/legal/user-agreements/city-of-heroes-user-agreement.html
Thanks!
See also: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Talk:EULA
(That's the updated version that came with I21.)
Thanks. I was about to ask for this, too.
Here's a copy I captured on September 6. It says "Updated on Septeber 1, 2011" at the top so it's probably identical to the version on Paragon Wiki (but I didn't compare them to check).
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3195341/CoH/2012-10-10/city-of-heroes-user-agreement.html
Here's the current EULA that's being displayed after you log in, but before the server select screen (incidentally there is a command line flag to make the game not display it):
http://www.cohtitan.com/misc/eula.html
Here's the version that is displayed in the UK:
http://www.cohtitan.com/misc/eula-uk.html
At first glance, the US one appears to be the same as what Sekoia posted, though I haven't done a line-by-line comparison to see if anything was quietly changed.
Ironically, it seems that the only way to get a good copy of said EULA involves breaking it...
Aaaaand, according to that EULA, you are not allowed to create any derivative works of the Content. So I guess writing AE arcs violated it this whole time.
My favorite part though, is :
QuoteIt is Your responsibility to read, understand and accept this agreement each and every time You use the Service.
Yeah... I print previewed it, and at a smallish font it was 21 pages of legalese. So much for the 'reasonable person' standard.
(Disclaimer: I admit that my commentary is somewhat biased, because I think corporations recently are grossly abusing the original intent of copyright law, and that things like EULAs are an abomination of the legal system. However the content in the links posted above is accurate.)
The courts seem to agree with you, Codewalker, given how EULAs have generally proven about as enforceable as this contract I wrote up wherein you agree to pay me $10,000 for my services as a poster on this forum if you don't come to my office (behind security-locked doors) and sign in your own blood a line stating you don't agree to it.
Depends on the jurisdiction, Segev, some (5th Circuit I'm looking at you) have upheld them, insane restrictions and all.
And in UCITA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCITA) states, EULAs are explicitly codified in law as allowing software companies to make you agree to pretty much anything they want, no matter how buried in the fine print it is. But it's okay, because you always have the choice to not use it, right?
Quote from: Codewalker on October 10, 2012, 03:25:02 PM
Depends on the jurisdiction, Segev, some (5th Circuit I'm looking at you) have upheld them, insane restrictions and all.
And in UCITA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCITA) states, EULAs are explicitly codified in law as allowing software companies to make you agree to pretty much anything they want, no matter how buried in the fine print it is. But it's okay, because you always have the choice to not use it, right?
c_c Now I want to implement a clock timer that runs whenever the program is on and just counts seconds. Never resets. Sends hidden messages back to my servers when it reaches certain benchmarks. In the EULA, in the fine print, is a one-sentence bit: "The owner of the machine on which this program is run agrees to pay $0.01 per second this program has been used on that machine US to [Segev's Company] upon demand, as well as 50% of all liquid assets owned by the user."
Quote from: Segev on October 10, 2012, 03:37:49 PM
c_c Now I want to implement a clock timer that runs whenever the program is on and just counts seconds. Never resets. Sends hidden messages back to my servers when it reaches certain benchmarks. In the EULA, in the fine print, is a one-sentence bit: "The owner of the machine on which this program is run agrees to pay $0.01 per second this program has been used on that machine US to [Segev's Company] upon demand, as well as 50% of all liquid assets owned by the user."
I know one EULA where the coders put in "and the user agrees to send the coders one large half mushroom half pineapple pizza every tuesday at 4pm"
Did they ever manage to enforce that delicious clause?
Quote from: Segev on October 10, 2012, 06:21:51 PM
Did they ever manage to enforce that delicious clause?
I don't know. But don't even THINK about it, Segev. :) *grins*