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Archive => Save Paragon City! => Topic started by: Intone on September 12, 2012, 01:59:19 PM

Title: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: Intone on September 12, 2012, 01:59:19 PM
From her tweet yesterday:
"Wow this made me tear up a little."
https://twitter.com/feliciaday/status/245571518036340736

And then referred to this link:
http://bleedingcool.com/2012/09/10/five-thousand-strong-crowd-rallies-to-save-city-of-heroes-kind-of

This will be helpful.

Intone
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: Empyrean on September 12, 2012, 03:24:06 PM
Isn't Felicia kind of buddies with Wil Wheaton?  Man, if we could get our foot in that door... wait, that sounded bad...
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: Tahliah on September 12, 2012, 11:17:03 PM
The only bad thing about the tweet was that at one point someone tweeted her that the closure makes sense because COH wasn't making money (it was) and that NCSoft isn't a charity.  I tweeted back to both that COH was/is making money,  but I'm not sure that it registered.

This is a recurring response in comments (such as on the poll), so perhaps we should be getting the word out that COH isn't being closed down because it was a money drain?
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: Osborn on September 12, 2012, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: Tahliah on September 12, 2012, 11:17:03 PM
The only bad thing about the tweet was that at one point someone tweeted her that the closure makes sense because COH wasn't making money (it was) and that NCSoft isn't a charity.  I tweeted back to both that COH was/is making money,  but I'm not sure that it registered.

This is a recurring response in comments (such as on the poll), so perhaps we should be getting the word out that COH isn't being closed down because it was a money drain?

I ain't even sure why that should matter to them for our prospects other than for people to try to justify inaction to others or something. It seems akin to saying something meaningless like "Grow up, and get over it, it's just a video game!" that doesn't really serve anything other than to just lower morale and to try to make people look childish for daring to care about a hobby that isn't entirely mainstream enough yet.

I mean, even if NCSoft was bleeding money, well that would be Titan Network's business and problem for wanting to buy the game, now isn't it? You'd think...

I mean, I guess they're trying to say that it's "NCSoft's right to drop the game" but I don't think nobody was arguing that, no matter how stupid we might think it was they did, or how much we'd want them to sell the game to somebody who does want to keep it up.

I guess I don't get much why people are like "What do you expect them to be a charity?", considering that nobody asked them to be one ever. It's just really annoying to have to go around correct something that shouldn't even matter anyways.

I think it's really a weird sorta very creepy or scary mindset somebody could get into where the mere act of allowing you to spend your money on them is considered charity.
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: Vulpy on September 13, 2012, 12:04:15 AM
Quote from: Osborn on September 12, 2012, 11:50:44 PMI think it's really a weird sorta very creepy or scary mindset somebody could get into where the mere act of allowing you to spend your money on them is considered charity.

Crackerbarrel psychology follows.

I view this sort of projected apathy as a coping mechanism for a world that inundates us with media that are often misleading, hyperbolic, or indoctrinating. We have to be cynical about every bit of information put before us, which can make letting go and trusting someone else's sincerity of purpose a very difficult thing. I didn't realize this psychological tension was present in my own mind until I wrote a story about two of my CoH characters externalizing the dilemma, with a jaded character looking on an empathic character with disgust that gave way to grudging admiration.

So, yes. This game is worth saving. If nothing else, it's worth fighting for to me because it gives me a medium to explore my own psychology. That's a motivation I expect no one else to find meaningful or share, but it is enough for me.
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: Thistletoe on September 13, 2012, 12:30:23 AM
Quote from: Tahliah on September 12, 2012, 11:17:03 PM
The only bad thing about the tweet was that at one point someone tweeted her that the closure makes sense because COH wasn't making money (it was) and that NCSoft isn't a charity.  I tweeted back to both that COH was/is making money,  but I'm not sure that it registered.

This is a recurring response in comments (such as on the poll), so perhaps we should be getting the word out that COH isn't being closed down because it was a money drain?

I've been seeing this in our comment threads too. I'd love to have an easy one-liner to counter it, but there just isn't one that doesn't require the reader to take what we say at least in part on faith. Concluding that the game was making money is a result of a complicated mish-mosh of basic logic, developer quotes, business sense, insider info, and published reports, but there's no single, easy smoking gun that will convince the people drifting through that the simplest explanation isn't the right one this time 'round.

Unfortunately, the current best all-in-one explanation is a somewhat-anti-CoH blog that I'd rather not link to when bringing people up to speed.

-Bree
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: Victoria Victrix on September 13, 2012, 12:40:29 AM
When I see that, especially when it occurs right after a successful action, the old hippie in me IMMEDIATELY suspects "mole."

I would not be the least surprised to discover that NCSoft was ordering some employees with a good command of English to infiltrate as moles to demoralize and disperse the movement.

So maybe the best counter is "How much is NCSoft paying you?"
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: Codewalker on September 13, 2012, 12:50:47 AM
Quote from: Victoria Victrix on September 13, 2012, 12:40:29 AM
I would not be the least surprised to discover that NCSoft was ordering some employees with a good command of English to infiltrate as moles to demoralize and disperse the movement.

So maybe the best counter is "How much is NCSoft paying you?"

Oh, so that's why they're losing so much money. It's all starting to make sense.
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: jacknomind on September 13, 2012, 01:12:40 AM
The occasional dig is ok, but polarizing people as a strategy isn't going to help us.
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: The-Hunter-JLJ on September 13, 2012, 02:20:59 AM
From the numbers we saw on that Massively poll, I don't think it's a huge problem. 10% or so of the people who voted thought "Let COH die" was reasonable. My general rule of thumb is you're gonna find 5% of the people in any given sample will vote in the most anti-social fashion possible just to be obnoxious. Then you have to take into a account the misinformed, or the people who for quite valid reasons think it is a perfectly reasonable thing to say. Really, running roughly 90% in favor of fighting for CoH in the biggest sample we've seen yet is pretty remarkable.
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: Victoria Victrix on September 13, 2012, 02:36:49 AM
Quote from: The_Hunter_JLJ on September 13, 2012, 02:20:59 AM
From the numbers we saw on that Massively poll, I don't think it's a huge problem. 10% or so of the people who voted thought "Let COH die" was reasonable. My general rule of thumb is you're gonna find 5% of the people in any given sample will vote in the most anti-social fashion possible just to be obnoxious. Then you have to take into a account the misinformed, or the people who for quite valid reasons think it is a perfectly reasonable thing to say. Really, running roughly 90% in favor of fighting for CoH in the biggest sample we've seen yet is pretty remarkable.


Amen!  Two thumbs up!
Title: Re: Felicia Day Tweeted About Save COH
Post by: WanderingAries on September 14, 2012, 01:55:07 AM
Quote from: Codewalker on September 13, 2012, 12:50:47 AM
Oh, so that's why they're losing so much money. It's all starting to make sense.
Ironically, in one of the articles it points out that the act of giving severence pay to (an unrelated) NCSoft employee group during a downsize resulted in red ink for a period.