It's going along fairly well...
And I really hope ...
because he's one of my favorite new characters.
Quote from: Eoraptor on December 03, 2014, 04:00:20 AM
Having just binge-watched the whole thing, I got the impression that Simmons wasn't even saying she wasn't interested in Fitz, it was just that she had about five seconds of "Oh! Hmm...", then nine days of "Oh crap he's going to die", then months of "He's so different now and I don't know how to help him", and she never really had a chance to process what the heck she felt about it all. And now Fitz wants to run away to the garage to hide. She might actually be up for a relationship, but how do you figure it out in the middle of all that?
SHIELD returns!
Things I can comment without feeling the need to be spoilerish: Skye's father is a jerk. They are definitely pushing the whole "Inhumans as Mutants" thing.
Fantastic episode. The only disappointing thing for me is that Raina is no longer absolutely gorgeous. It's good to have some more super powered characters but extra eye candy doesn't hurt either. I suppose she might learn to transform.
As for Bobbi and Mac
I've heard some theories that Bobbi and Mack
Also? Kyle MacLachlan is soooooooo good in this. "It's a lifelong dream. It's life long." "Then don't." SO GOOD.
Quote from: Kaos Arcanna on March 04, 2015, 03:12:21 AM
I like that a lot, but her reaction to all this seemed out of place.
I checked on Monday night's assertion that there was a "big" moon on July 2, 1988, in case they're lying to Skye, and I am impressed. According to two different sources, the moon was just three days past full, so it would still have been mostly lit, and it was at perigee (closest approach to Earth). So it would, in fact, have looked bigger than usual. Someone really did their homework.
Anyone else notice the giant Chekhov's Gun with the carrier? Mockingbird was sent to scuttle it to keep whatever it's carrying from falling into Hydra's hands.
Could whatever it is be the reason for all the anti-alien/power fear from the Real SHIELD Agents of the Atlantic?
I hereby dub Raina the Precognitive Porcupine.
Quote from: Super Firebug on April 15, 2015, 09:07:44 PM
I checked on Monday night's assertion that there was a "big" moon on July 2, 1988, in case they're lying to Skye, and I am impressed. According to two different sources, the moon was just three days past full, so it would still have been mostly lit, and it was at perigee (closest approach to Earth). So it would, in fact, have looked bigger than usual. Someone really did their homework.
They're being careful not to invoke the wrath of Neil Degrasse Tyson. Nobody wants to start another Titanic debacle.
Watching tonight's episode. Had to Google "Echidna." :)
Quote from: eabrace on April 22, 2015, 02:50:21 AM
Watching tonight's episode. Had to Google "Echidna." :)
Somewhere in videogameland Knuckles is crying.
Heh. I know the animal. I was unfamiliar with the reference in Marvel comics.
Kinda late to the discussion here, but anyone catch the reference Simmons made to the obscure character Hellcow back when she was undercover? It was pretty subtle, but I felt the need to Google it and sure enough there was a vampire cow named Hellcow in the comics. I've caught a couple references like that but I wonder how many I've missed.
On other news, Bobby and Hunter are getting a spin-off series. Curious to see where it goes :D
I've been loving the Inhumans stuff so far. This seems like a good way to bring in the mutants without incurring the wrath of Fox. Also there is an Inhumans movie scheduled for 2019, and we will theoretically be able to skip all the origin story because Agents of Shield will have had enough chance to cover that for YEARS by that point. Pretty cool.
A bit odd that there's this whole compound of inhumans led by skye's mom who seem to have no connection to any of the inhumans from the comics other than having access to terrigen mists and knowing the history. maybe it's like rotc to the great refuge's army.
Quote from: Vee on April 22, 2015, 09:45:36 PM
A bit odd that there's this whole compound of inhumans led by skye's mom who seem to have no connection to any of the inhumans from the comics other than having access to terrigen mists and knowing the history. maybe it's like rotc to the great refuge's army.
Well I can see a few reasons why they'd have little to do with the In humans from the comics, story reasons and not just the we don't want to do the special FX and costumes for those characters on a TV show budget or we haven't cast Black Bolt or Medusa for the movie yet sort of reasons :)
Part I think is that almost all of the compound, with a couple exceptions, they're all potentials. They haven't been exposed to the mists yet. So that puts them on slightly lower social level. While exposed to some of the Inhumane history, they haven't been told of everything, which is why they're in a remote compound instead of Attilan itself. They are being educated and evaluated on if they can allowed to join the Inhuman city proper.
And I think more importantly, most of the comics center around the royal family. They don't just mingle with anyone, inhuman or not. The royal family just does not mix with the common folk. I think it would at least be neat to have Karnac show up to represent the "Elders" that were mentioned. As he would be the most non effects required character from the comics.
Quote from: Battlechimp on April 24, 2015, 02:06:37 AM
I think it would at least be neat to have Karnac show up to represent the "Elders" that were mentioned. As he would be the most non effects required character from the comics.
You might be underestimating the budget costs of an errol flynn moustache.
Quote from: Vee on April 22, 2015, 09:45:36 PM
A bit odd that there's this whole compound of inhumans led by skye's mom who seem to have no connection to any of the inhumans from the comics other than having access to terrigen mists and knowing the history. maybe it's like rotc to the great refuge's army.
Actually I read a fairly recent Inhumans comic where the terrigen mists had recently been released on the world as a giant cloud, and they talked about how even before this there were multiple groups of Inhumans, not just the ones that followed Blackbolt. I am far from an Inhumans expert, I think that is the only Inhumans specific comic I have ever read because I generally found them to be boring versions of mutants in the past, but now I am ready to give them a shot.
Quote from: Inc42 on April 25, 2015, 03:19:03 PM
Actually I read a fairly recent Inhumans comic where the terrigen mists had recently been released on the world as a giant cloud, and they talked about how even before this there were multiple groups of Inhumans, not just the ones that followed Blackbolt. I am far from an Inhumans expert, I think that is the only Inhumans specific comic I have ever read because I generally found them to be boring versions of mutants in the past, but now I am ready to give them a shot.
Yeah that storyline was what really pushed the Inhumans up as a larger part of the Marvel universe. Basically there are potentials for lack of a better word all over the place, and Inhuman is becoming the word people shout out insteadof mutant when people go lynching now. The terrigen bombs created tons of new super powered people, bothgood and bad (the new Ms Marvel is an Inhuman)
But yeah, it really does seem that Marvel has decided to use them as the replacement for mutants in the last couple years
Years ago didn't the Inhumans have something to do with Marvel's Eternals comic book?
Probably. The Eternals and the Deviants were prehuman experiments of the Celestials. The Inhumans were early human experiments of the Cree. I'm sure they crossed paths.
As I recall, the Kree came across some of the Eternals in Earth's solar system back in prehistory-- (I want to say they were the ones who wound up sponsoring the first Marvel Boy)-- and after defeating them, the Kree dissected the bodies and found them worthy of imitation. (The Eternals had not yet become immortal or obtained their full power yet).
So, basically the Inhumans were a bargain basement imitation of the Eternals made by the Kree rather than the Celestials.
Quote from: Battlechimp on April 25, 2015, 08:03:40 PM
But yeah, it really does seem that Marvel has decided to use them as the replacement for mutants in the last couple years
I'm sure this is exactly what is happening, Marvel has been pretty spiteful against Fox lately and it would not surprise me to see mutants featured less and less in the comics, especially after what happened with Fantastic Four.
For those of you that do not know, the way the contracts for the characters Fox has movie rights to works is that if Fox does not make movies for those characters every so many years the rights revert back to Marvel. Daredevil reverted (and Marvel made him an awesome show), Blade did, and Fantastic Four was juuuust about to when Fox announced the new movie. As a result Marvel cancelled the Fantastic Four comics all together.
NOW we are coming up on a massive reboot of all Marvel comic universes. My theory is that some characters that were mutants will be retconned into being Inhumans, or maybe people that thought they were mutants will find they were Inhumans all along. I doubt this will give Marvel much of a leg to stand on to fight for those characters back, but I still suspect they will try.
Quote from: Battlechimp on April 25, 2015, 08:03:40 PM
But yeah, it really does seem that Marvel has decided to use them as the replacement for mutants in the last couple years
Until Disney buys Fox to get mutantkind back.
Quote from: FatherXmas on April 28, 2015, 04:49:51 AM
Until Disney buys Fox to get mutantkind back.
At this point it feels like that is what will have to happen, though who knows what it would take. Also, is it worth it? Yeah, mutants, but most of Fox's other properties are pretty worthless.
Quote from: eabrace on April 29, 2015, 02:12:29 AM
Comedy gold! ;D
That was a good one.
In the preview it said "Inhumans" - is this the first time they are called this officially in the series or did I miss it in some other episode?
I like how Winter Soldier led into this series and now the series is leading the Age of Ultron.
Marvel is really good at these cross promotions.
DC cant do it as every TV property and movie franchise have nothing to do with each other.
Quote from: eabrace on April 29, 2015, 02:12:29 AM
Comedy gold! ;D
"Spoiler alert"
Another good one. Hot pocket line was good too.
Quote from: doc7924 on April 29, 2015, 03:10:45 AM
In the preview it said "Inhumans" - is this the first time they are called this officially in the series or did I miss it in some other episode?
I've been watching the episodes on Amazon and several of the descriptions have had the word "Inhumans" in it. Also I think the official Marvel Youtube, which does frequent clips from each episode to generate interest, has mentioned the word a few times.
Quote from: FatherXmas on April 29, 2015, 05:03:07 PM
"Spoiler alert"
Another good one. Hot pocket line was good too.
There were a whole lot of good lines in this one. I haven't laughed that much in an Agents of SHIELD episode in a while.
Quote from: Inc42 on April 22, 2015, 05:54:52 PM
Hellcow
Definitely thought you meant this: http://www.thetick.ws/livevillians.html
Quote from: Inc42 on April 22, 2015, 05:54:52 PMI've been loving the Inhumans stuff so far. This seems like a good way to bring in the mutants without incurring the wrath of Fox. Also there is an Inhumans movie scheduled for 2019, and we will theoretically be able to skip all the origin story because Agents of Shield will have had enough chance to cover that for YEARS by that point. Pretty cool.
Except that the movie audience and the TV audience are not the same. So there will be at least some sort of exposition.
There was a single-shot scene where Skye storms the medical bay where Lincoln is held. As far as I can tell, it was actually the actor doing the scene, and not a stunt double.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3W_zZifedw
Fantastic!
Quote from: CG on May 04, 2015, 04:52:37 PM
There was a single-shot scene where Skye storms the medical bay where Lincoln is held. As far as I can tell, it was actually the actor doing the scene, and not a stunt double.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3W_zZifedw
Fantastic!
I love how Skye is suddenly the Punisher in this episode and takes out all those Hydra agents in like 30 seconds and only used her power that one time.
Well she did spend the time between Season 1 and 2 and a fair chunk of Season 2 training with May so yes, she's also a badass fighter.
As for using her powers Vs a gun. Well the two times she used them in the episode she had time to prepare. Also we don't know if she's slotted for endurance and recharge yet. Those guys came in quickly, in small groups, from several directions. If fighting with a gun is now muscle memory it may simply be easier rather than using the new thing.
Plus she couldn't help showing off to Ward, as a warning.
So if they are supposed to be Inhumans - would that make Gordon Lockjaw since that was his power?
Hmm. That was a bit surprising. Part of it at least.
Quote from: Kaos Arcanna on May 06, 2015, 02:10:53 AM
Hmm. That was a bit surprising. Part of it at least.
Yeah. I was expecting quite the opposite. What a sneaky b***h.
I hope this gets picked up for a 3rd season. I hate when shows have great season endings and then get cancelled.
Next week's looks like a doozy.
Quote from: doc7924 on May 06, 2015, 03:00:28 AM
I hope this gets picked up for a 3rd season. I hate when shows have great season endings and then get cancelled.
Even if SHIELD gets cancelled, there will likely be closure for fans, since it's part of a grander universe. Unlike other shows, that leave the entire thing hanging.
Also keep in mind, Disney owns the network AoS is aired on. This only gets cancelled if Disney wants it to, and even then there are no messy rights issues like many cancelled shows have to deal with, if they wanted to move it to Netflix or anything in the future they don't have to worry about it.
Its too bad Coulson didn't go. Certainly the crystal would have worked on him since he has the alien DNA or blood or whatever in him.
Would be interesting to see what power he would get.
Quote from: Kaos Arcanna on May 06, 2015, 02:10:53 AM
Hmm. That was a bit surprising. Part of it at least.
In fairness,
Agents of shield and agent carter renewed for next season according to ign.
Quote from: Rejolt on May 08, 2015, 04:02:21 AM
Agents of shield and agent carter renewed for next season according to ign.
Cool. And then there is that other spin off with Mockingbird and the other guy.
Quote from: doc7924 on May 08, 2015, 12:05:58 PM
Cool. And then there is that other spin off with Mockingbird and the other guy.
Apparently that was given a pass in favour of Agent Carter.
Quote from: CG on May 08, 2015, 04:17:52 PM
Apparently that was given a pass in favour of Agent Carter.
Yeah, I saw a couple articles on this after the confirmation of renewing AoS and Carter.
I'm torn on it. Part of me wanted to see the show because then I get more Marvel stuff per week, but I also don't want to loose such good characters on AoS. Bobbi and Hunter were much needed additions when the Fitz-Simmons team was broken up (seems like now they are getting past things, but hard to say).
I think they could have carried a show just fine though, and I'm going to have hopes that if the people behind AoS really want this done they will have a better proposal next year for it, plus have a whole extra year to plan it out.
Quote from: CG on May 08, 2015, 04:17:52 PM
Apparently that was given a pass in favour of Agent Carter.
Works for me. I thought Carter was well done and maybe this next series they can move past the Captain America thing.
Yes, Agent Carter was different and original; HAMMER, or Mockingbird, or whatever, would just have been a retread of AoS, or at least something very similar.
Adrianne Palicki has the worst luck for TV shows... :-[
Quote from: CG on May 09, 2015, 02:25:19 AM
Adrianne Palicki has the worst luck for TV shows... :-[
It's almost like she's a blood relative of Summer Glau, or something. :(
I hope as long as we have Marvel movies, we have AoS to reflect what is going on in Marvel-verse outside the world of gods battling amongst themselves.
Quote from: CG on May 09, 2015, 02:25:19 AM
Adrianne Palicki has the worst luck for TV shows... :-[
Well to be honest although she is very attractive her acting skills are meh at the best. I couldn't see watching a show where she was a primary character rather than just part of the ensemble.
Yes, my whole response could be a spoiler.
Quote from: FatherXmas on May 10, 2015, 05:52:59 AM
Yes, my whole response could be a spoiler.
So she was doing what Adama accused Coulson of doing....
Quote from: doc7924 on May 05, 2015, 09:06:23 AM
So if they are supposed to be Inhumans - would that make Gordon Lockjaw since that was his power?
Personally I call him "not Nightcrawler"
Quote from: ryuplaneswalker on May 12, 2015, 01:02:02 AM
Personally I call him "not Nightcrawler"
And then od course since they cant use the names we have Gordon instead of Gorgon.
Quote from: doc7924 on May 12, 2015, 02:37:56 AM
And then od course since they cant use the names we have Gordon instead of Gorgon.
But Gordon has absolutely nothing to do with Gorgon. One is a blind teleporter, the other is a super strong satyr. Marvel isn't fudging their names, they're completely different characters.
Quote from: Battlechimp on May 12, 2015, 04:28:28 AM
But Gordon has absolutely nothing to do with Gorgon. One is a blind teleporter, the other is a super strong satyr. Marvel isn't fudging their names, they're completely different characters.
All I was saying is the names are similar.
Does it strike anyone else as odd that Skye's mother could heal from evisceration and having her organs in jars for an unspecified amount of time but can't heal the facial scars? I have to chalk it up to Joss Whedon's odd tendency to disfigure his pet actresses, which i previously thought only applied to Amy Acker but since she got through her guest appearance unscathed it has since moved on.
Wow, didn't see that coming for
Yeah. Blink and you missed it, too.
But I suppose
I thought the way May tricked Ward was priceless, though I was hoping they would get to fight again.
Quote from: Blondeshell on May 13, 2015, 03:03:58 AM
Wow, didn't see that coming for
Yeah, I can't wait to see what that turns out to be.
Quote from: Inc42 on May 14, 2015, 05:33:45 PM
Yeah, I can't wait to see what that turns out to be.
Well the Inhumans said this is dangerous to them. Gemma clearly feels the Inhumans are a threat. I am wondering if it will give her some powers to go after them.
I didn't get why the crystal was dangerous to Coulson. I thought, like Skye he would have gotten a power as he has Kree DNA in his body, just like Skye.
I'm guessing he will get a new arm somehow - either grown or a mechanical one.
Remember the crystals that they had are laced with the metal from the Diviners (they melted down 4 to grow more crystals). Coulson wasn't a chosen one so it's as if you picked up a Diviner.
Quote from: FatherXmas on May 14, 2015, 07:03:18 PM
Remember the crystals that they had are laced with the metal from the Diviners (they melted down 4 to grow more crystals). Coulson wasn't a chosen one so it's as if you picked up a Diviner.
I thought people with alien DNA could use the Diviners - like Skye and the girl that turned into Sonic.
I guess I missed the part of what makes a person chosen.
Alien DNA given as medication isn't the same as DNA manipulated by aliens thousands of years ago. Skye just happened to have both.
Same reason Skye didn't get the side effect that Coulson got. She's got the DNA markers to allow her to become Inhuman, Coulson doesn't so ...
Quote from: FatherXmas on May 15, 2015, 06:38:11 AM
Same reason Skye didn't get the side effect that Coulson got. She's got the DNA markers to allow her to become Inhuman, Coulson doesn't
I am guessing it is the same reason Skye never started carving. While part of me likes the subtlety of the explanations behind some of the plot points of the show, leaving it up to the viewers to put some pieces together, I hope that choosing to not have Coulson or Gemma do a brief aside of "Oh, this is why this..." does not bite them in the foot with the audience they are drawing of people who dont follow comics and look for these things.
Quote from: Inc42 on May 15, 2015, 05:27:06 PM
I am guessing it is the same reason Skye never started carving. While part of me likes the subtlety of the explanations behind some of the plot points of the show, leaving it up to the viewers to put some pieces together, I hope that choosing to not have Coulson or Gemma do a brief aside of "Oh, this is why this..." does not bite them in the foot with the audience they are drawing of people who don't follow comics and look for these things.
The movies are really tuned to be general audience friendly (sometimes to their detriment, like ironman 3) AoS is definitely more tuned fr the hard core comic fan. and that's fine.
I seem to remember that there was some anger amongst the Inhumans that Skye was not "chosen", and that she cheated to get her exposure to the mist. Like she cut to the front of the line or something.
Season 2 recently popped up on Netflix. I just finished watching it and wow... Kudos for introducing Mr. Hyde as such a monster, then turning him into a sympathetic character. But a hefty fist shake and a "you bastards!" for that cliffhanger finale.