You know, I think I've never posted anything about a celebrity but Robin Williams dying and even worse of possible suicide just is really incredibly sad.
As a kid, when I didn't know how to handle stuff in my life one thing I could do is listen to some Robin Williams and he was like a hero that he made me laugh.
Every class clown knew at least some Robin Williams when I was in school, me included.
He's always been there and I appreciate his good spirit today as much as I ever did. I'm really really sad he had to go and feel lucky he found the courage to do the stuff he did and share it with me before he went.
I never feel I have good enough words. Suffice to say that of all the people in the world, his was a voice I could identify with, and my world is a little less bright in more ways than just his comedy and amazing talent.
RIP Robin.
:(
Quote from: houtex on August 12, 2014, 12:40:41 AM
world is a little less bright
Can't be said any better than that. I feel exactly the same way.
Don't know him, never met him, but I feel that loss of light too.
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He was as much of a hero to me as anyone by helping to show me that light when I felt all I had was dark. If he were alive today he wouldn't have to do anything to earn hero status with me.
If you are a good person out there losing hope and feeling like things can only go bad while you're around I wanna tell you: just be. Just exist. Sharing your good soul is your most valuable thing you can do while you are here on this earth. And take care of yourself! And keep trying.
That's something Robin helped teach me twice now. Pretty heroic to me although I definitely wish he could have made his point differently this last time.
Quote from: houtex on August 12, 2014, 12:40:41 AM
I never feel I have good enough words.
I usually have too many or none at all.
Miserable (usually self-hating) comedian is such a commonplace it zooms right past cliche. I often find the best comedians hard to watch in interviews -- just so sad.
Damn he was a fantastic performer. One of the funniest stand-ups ever, incredible as an improv and absolutely BRILLIANT as an actor. When he was so wasted in Branaugh's Hamlet, all I could think was how much I would have loved to see him take on the lead.
I am so so sorry that he is gone.
I was online just a few minutes after the news had been reported and someone dropped it like a bomb in Zone. Had to check for myself to make sure it wasn't a bad joke..
Definitely ruined the mood to keep playing. Just totally blew my mind.
Thanks for the good thoughts.
Two days ago, I was watching an old clip on youtube with him spending time with Koko the gorilla. It was obvious he was having a moment and he seemed so at peace. Right then my heart went out to him because his struggle with depression and drug use was something that's been on my mind, but it was my hope against all hope that things were looking up for him. It breaks my heart that we have to carry on without him.
The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences had the best twitter tribute so far.
Genie, you're free (https://twitter.com/TheAcademy/status/498996314395246593/photo/1)
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You know, I see all these Hollywood people going on about how much he was loved and will be missed; calling him brother, soulmate, etc...
Where exactly were these people when he really needed them? Robin was obviously in a really bad place. Where were they? Just sayin' :'(
Quote from: Relitner on August 12, 2014, 01:01:57 PM
You know, I see all these Hollywood people going on about how much he was loved and will be missed; calling him brother, soulmate, etc...
Where exactly were these people when he really needed them? Robin was obviously in a really bad place. Where were they? Just sayin' :'(
all of this sort of stuff is just called "saving face". politicians do it all the time Obama is one of the most obvious of all; get caught doing somethign bad or ignoring something serious? get a dog, get caught again? get another dog. keep getting caught? act innocent and make sure it's in the news when you stroll in the public or have a meal with pen pals, or talk about how your kids like thier daddy, or tlk about how much you miss robin williams.
I think the worst part of Robins death is all the money the evil-sacks-of-long-rotten-feces will make off of publicity from it. "I loved robin like a brother it hurts me so much that I'm getting this movie offer because I said this and people like me"
pisses me off.
Robin was one of my favorites, in the end though he.. changed alot and started letting agents pimp him out for low rate political grooming shows.
seems all the greats are being taken away, what does it leave us with? subpar wannabees being spotlighted and raved about by media reporters with 1/1000000000000000th of a soul. "I need money to burn to help quench the fires of hell where my reporter soul resides, I'll do anything, I'll say anything to get it"
Edit;
screw it, I'll give it a go, not that people will allow me to try or anything.
I have been studying the possibilities of bringing recently deceased back from the dead, sorta like star trek could do, in theory it's not only possible but doesn't require surgery.
I am almost certain I can bring Robin back so long as they haven't embalmed him.
Quote from: Joshex on August 12, 2014, 02:42:08 PM
I have been studying the possibilities of bringing recently deceased back from the dead, sorta like star trek could do, in theory it's not only possible but doesn't require surgery.
I am almost certain I can bring Robin back so long as they haven't embalmed him.
Ah, Joshex. You always try to brighten up my day with your posts.
Quote from: FatherXmas on August 12, 2014, 10:23:43 AM
The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences had the best twitter tribute so far.
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That was actual Evan Rachel Wood: source (https://twitter.com/evanrachelwood/status/498981232697307139/photo/1)
Quote from: Stone Daemon on August 12, 2014, 05:39:07 PM
Ah, Joshex. You always try to brighten up my day with your posts.
Brighten up our day with laughing at his insanity, you mean...
I'm actually feel rather better learning some details of Mr. Williams' death...
One may reasonably suspect that what he was trying to achieve was NOT his death...
People actually trying to kill themselves by strangulation rarely do so seated in the manner of David Carridine
I like to think he went out "fighting the good fight" as it were
Quote from: Relitner on August 12, 2014, 01:01:57 PM
Where exactly were these people when he really needed them? Robin was obviously in a really bad place. Where were they? Just sayin' :'(
That's the problem with depression. It's easy to hide. Clinically depressed people don't answer the question, "How are you?" with "I'm feeling depressed." They smile and tell you that they're feeling fine.
QuoteI have been studying the possibilities of bringing recently deceased back from the dead, sorta like star trek could do, in theory it's not only possible but doesn't require surgery.
I am almost certain I can bring Robin back so long as they haven't embalmed him.
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You never cease to amaze me Joshex
Somewhere on Ork Olsen sobs
Robin, see ya on the .other side.
Quote from: Stone Daemon on August 12, 2014, 05:39:07 PM
Ah, Joshex. You always try to brighten up my day with your posts.
I remember Lister and Rimmer joked on Red dwarf that earth might have made great advances in the 3 million years they were gone, "they might have cured death" says lister to which Rimmer replies "yes I bet doctor's surgeries are packed with the dead, hello mrs. johnson, take one of these 3 times a day and you'll soon be living again, Carol!, next corpse please!"
seriously though, I'll let the cat out of the bag, my hypothesis about "curing death" is just that, death has symptoms: no breathing, no blood production, no blood circulation = no oxygen, no central nervous current, cold temperature.
Frankenstein is what people think when they think of reanimated people, in truth the novel might be 10% in line with the real way (no the book's way wont work on it's own, plus he did alot of surgery). truth be told I think mediporter technology could be developed in the future after all they can teleport a banana.
but lets get to the cure for death, yes I'll let it out here but I claim all ownership rights to it of course.
to cure death we must cure all of it's symptoms simultaneously with an intact subject (wont work if the brain or vital organs are missing or if the body is pumped full of toxic chemicals such as embalming fluid)
no breathing: cure; A ventilator (brething aid in hospitals, it inflates and deflats the lungs with breathable air).
no blood production: protien enzymes (submerge protien in a vitamin C solution to get them), and a small quantity of air injection into the bone marrow, this will give the marrow energy to produce new blood.
blood + air from the lungs means a functioning and not stiff body.
next we need circulation of said blood;
no circulation: cure; using an electromagentrode (named myself) simulate the pulses of the heart's nerve onto the heart through the skin on the chest. Do the same with each artery to insure blood flow, a small electrical pulse through the electromagnetrode is necessary to achieve this.
No central nervous current: cure; line up a series of electromagnetrodes up the spinal collumn underneath the patient upto the bottom of his brain's stem and wrap an electromagnetrode helmet around the skull. Again only a small dose of electric current is necessary it will give the nervous system it's native energy allowing it to possibly induce control of the body agian and supply energy to the brain to let it begin functioning.
What is an electromagnetrode you ask? an electrode strapped to a magnet as it's only conductive medium, the output is not electricity or magnetism but electromagnetism the same kind of current we have in our nervous system.
why? electricity would fry the patient, magnetism will do next to nothing alone so the third force electromagnetism is necessary. Electromagnetism is a weak force but all we are doing is simulating life in the patient, sorta like jump-starting a car, once it has been simlated for long enough the body's cells and nuerons will begin functioning on thier own aka Life.
whether or not the patient will remember who they are is unknown.
cold body temperature: cure; the patient should be given a body temperature bath gradually raising the temperature from room temp to avoid shock to the cells, then once up to temperature place the patient in a body temperature room and apply vitamin water to the skin if dry where they will recieve the rest of the treatment stated above until conciousness is regained.
well? what do people think? it solves all the symptoms of death. Imagine if we could give suiciders a second chance, I think they'd value life more.
Your understanding of electromagnetic force and the human "condition" is fundamentally flawed. Kindly keep that crazy out of this thread, which is for remembrance of a brilliant, tortured man.
It hit me pretty hard. Mork and Mindy was one of the first shows I really followed when I was a kid.
I think so many people are disappointed because we lost probably one of the best comedic talents in a generation. When you see him in a performance, you forget your problems even for a minute or two and you simply can't put a price on that.
I have mixed feelings about this (http://kotaku.com/fans-want-a-wow-tribute-to-robin-williams-and-blizzard-1620456625). Hopefully, it will be one of his actual characters or, at worst, his character from The Fisher King or something, and not some uncanny valley caricature of the guy. I know WoW has tributes to people who have left us, but I haven't gone to investigate them for fear of what I might find.
Quote from: FatherXmas on August 12, 2014, 10:23:43 AM
The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences had the best twitter tribute so far.
Genie, you're free (https://twitter.com/TheAcademy/status/498996314395246593/photo/1)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.kinja-img.com%2Fgawker-media%2Fimage%2Fupload%2Fwvltpsdiinkdr9evevse.jpg)
Awww. That is very sweet. It hurts my heart and is very fitting of the man I think.
I'm not surprised he played video games but I didn't know until now. That is an even cooler discovery than when i found out he became a cyclist. Wow what kind of a team would that be? Makes me wonder what kind of a player he was. Can you imagine him in a game like CoH or CO? What toons would he make...? Can you imagine his friends lists in games he did play?
Not because I like it that way I currently live in the bush (which I like) and without access to tv and the only radio station I like comes in when it wants to and they haven't played any news that I caught. I haven't been feeling morbid enough to dig up news on my own on the Internet but since it's been a few days I thought I'd see if the The David Carradine Theory was gaining any popularity or if it was a blatant suicide.
It may make a difference.
For example, if there is a place we go afterwards and we still like a good joke - I have to think Robin has perfect gag material if he died you know whatting..
Richard Pryor might be one of the first to stand up and remind Robin that he was one of the first to spot his problem. As evidence he could play a bootleg video of the Richard Pryor Show where in reply to a roast the cast had given Mr. Pryor he said about Robin "He has all that hair on his hands, it's obvious he jacks off funny... it's on the Outside of his hands.."
Anyway..
As has been pointed out here we don't always have the right words. When doing a short search on current Robin news I found this lil tidbit that spoke to me.
"I never met Williams. Doesn't matter. He met all of us. I sat with my kids years ago watching "Aladdin," listening to him ad lib 52 separate characters that whirled out of a genie's magic smoke that resembled Robin Williams' brilliant mind.
That experience, seeing that film with my laughing kids in a darkened Brooklyn theater, is a cherished memory of my life. So Williams lives on in me, and countless millions of other perfect strangers."
Stolen from: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/robin-williams-tragic-answer-ultimate-question-article-1.1902917#ixzz3AN6TBMZl
I can directly relate to this, I have an experience with Robin that I'll never forget too. I never realized how big an influence he had been to me until he was gone.
Reality, what a concept.
Thanks you guys for giving me a place to freak out like I did/have.
Quote from: Xev on August 14, 2014, 06:00:01 PM
I'm not surprised he played video games
Not just video games. He also played D&D and had several Warhammer 40k armies even though he'd never played the game.
Again, imagine D&D'ing with Robin Williams.. There was a friend I worked with way back that was a DM and our small group had some flat out hilarious weekend adventures until sun up, gorging on things like pizza and soda or other fast food/convenience store feasts. I will never again hear the words 'plinth' or 'dais' without wanting to laugh..
I never felt any good at D&D at the time we played. My mind was already firmly planted into computer D&D where there were fairly strict rules instead of everyone's imagination being the game engine.
Robin as DM.. Ha. : )
Online we all had access to him. Imagine that. I wonder how many people knew who his toons were and how often he teamed and what he did when he teamed and all this good stuff.
Quote from: dwturducken on August 14, 2014, 12:59:15 AM
I have mixed feelings about this (http://kotaku.com/fans-want-a-wow-tribute-to-robin-williams-and-blizzard-1620456625). Hopefully, it will be one of his actual characters or, at worst, his character from The Fisher King or something, and not some uncanny valley caricature of the guy. I know WoW has tributes to people who have left us, but I haven't gone to investigate them for fear of what I might find.
Somebody was asking for something similar in GW2. But that game doesn't have the same degree of pop/geek cultural references that WoW or CoH has/had. Although it did have a Galaxy Quest reference easily found, until they destroyed the city it was in and an Asura (the mad science race) does talk about needing to recalabrate the retro encabulator (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w) of a portal gate due to sinusoidal fluctuations in the tremmy pipes.
Robin Williams was one of my most favorite actors growing up as a kid. I've enjoyed both his silly and serious roles. His stand-up routines were amazing. Finding out he'd committed suicide left me stunned ... absolutely stunned.
More recent news has come out: about his financial troubles, and that he had started exhibiting symptoms of Parkinson's Disease. Knowing this ... well, it makes it even harder for me to find meaningful words to say.
So many stories in the wake of his death spoke of his generousness and his kindness, how he was always ready to help others in need. I wish it were possible for us to return the favor, and help ease his troubles before this happened.
This depression thing...it's depressing. The human mind is so incredible, so complex. Everything we know about how our minds work tell us more about how much we don't know.
I think about it..why did this guy do this? Was he of "sound mind"? Can anyone who does this be of a sound mind? Is there even such a thing as a sound mind? I found out a few days later that he was diagnosed with Parkinson's, and that along with depression was a pretty unsavory prognosis. Was he trying to be noble? Trying to spare his family from the challenges his care would present? Was he scared? Too many voices from the number of drugs his body had been craving? Does it really matter now? Maybe. More questions than answers. Are depressed people now going to commit suicide because Robin Williams did? <shrug>
As a performer, most remember Robin Williams for his comedy - but the man was more genius than clown. He went to Juilliard, if memory serves. That feat impresses me more than any of his comedy performances. I call them performances, because he didn't really have a "routine".
When I was in college, one of the perks of a volunteer job I had was to be able to go to our local comedy lounge for free. (as long as I got my 2 drink minimum, lol) I've seen hundreds of comedians. I usually went on a Wednesday night, and if they were any good, I'd see them again with a date on Friday or Saturday. Imagine my surprise when I learned that they all told the same jokes, the same way, all week long. Not sure what I was expecting, why I thought they'd do something different each night. Cracking jokes for an hour isn't easy. Cracking different jokes the next night for an hour would be even harder.
Robin Williams - well, I never saw him live in person, but from what I could see on tv, this guy never said the same thing twice. He certainly never said it the same way. He bounced around like a pinball in a machine before it goes tilt. He didn't have a routine, as far as I could tell. He'd just go out and ..be. Taking a response from some random person in the crowd, there was no telling which way he'd go. I certainly don't know, but my guess is he didn't know himself.
My one hope is that perhaps from this, people might be more inclined to connect in person, in addition to facebook and other social media sites, and that people would be more willing to get involved in the lives of strangers and make them friends. Easy in theory, but really awkward when I think about it in reality. Our society just doesn't really go for that getting involved bit. It's too much opportunity for discomfort. But, by pushing on that edge of discomfort, that's where we grow.
everyone finds thier own way to deal with things like this, Indeed him as genie was probably the most prominent role I remember him a during my childhood.
I always wish I could solve real life problems as simply as programming problems, or.. maybe a tad more simple. but thats not how things work I guess, even worse things have happened lately, some really demented internet folk (I know that says alot coming from me lol) have verbally attacked his daughter Zelda in twitter over her fathers views on this sort of situation.
The world really must be ending soon, everything is going nuts even the weather. hmmmmmmmm....
now I'd even venture to say that robin got out while the getting is still good. there are alot worse ways to die, man kind just has to find them.
So, this (http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/08/21/robin-williams-possibly-spotted-in-world-of-warcraft-files/) showed up today. Or yesterday. Not the point. It actually looks kind of cool, in concept, if it is anything remotely like what Justin is theorizing.
Quote from: eabrace on August 13, 2014, 01:49:24 AM
That's the problem with depression. It's easy to hide. Clinically depressed people don't answer the question, "How are you?" with "I'm feeling depressed." They smile and tell you that they're feeling fine.
This is 100% true. Partially because there is a stigma around it, and partially because people who don't deal with it simply can't fathom what it really is. Real depression is not "oh I feel bummed about my day" or "life is just not turning out the way I hoped", it's a soul-crushing blackness. I've heard many 'educated' people go on about how those who deal with depression need to just buck up and start looking at things positively, which is a truly ignorant thing to say. Please, if you know someone who deals with this stuff, just be there for them. That's what they need.
Regarding Williams's death, I never really feel the loss of famous people personally, but this time I did. Not because of his comedy or his acting (though Hook is still one of my favorite movies), but because he always reminded me of my grandfather whom I miss dearly. Now I miss them both.
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Removed giant wall of text rambling, which showed that Joshex is excruciatingly ignorant of the medical diagnosis of 'clinical depression'
~Agge
It goes without saying, but please do not listen to a -word- of that if you're struggling with depression.
Quote from: Lightslinger on August 27, 2014, 11:22:46 AM
It goes without saying, but please do not listen to a -word- of that if you're struggling with depression.
I would say as a rule of thumb don't listen to a word of most things he posts. I have never suffered from clinical or recurring depression. Only depression when things in life got really,
really bad, and sometimes those things would take years to be able to be dealt with. But I don't think that is the same as clinical depression, I don't think most people who haven't experienced it would know what its like. And from the sounds of Robin Williams he had it pretty bad and pretty frequently. It's just a shame the world couldn't show that they cared more and that they loved him even if they had never met him.
Healix love the Eeyore post, very touching.
Removed Joshex's incredibly ignorant and frankly, pretty offensive post which amounted to telling clinical depressives to "just get over it" (because if that was possible, don't you think they'd do that?)
Depression can have a lot of sources. My first wife (who passed away in 1996) had a chemical imbalance in her nrain that once it was diagnosed changed her entire character to someone who is happy and content and a joy to be married to. Earlier it had at times been hell.
They can't just get over it, in fact they say to themselves often - why can't I just get past this? Once illness or some other issue affects you - your entire view of reality is changed. I had in 1 year, my wife die, my grandmother who was my favorite person in the universe besides my wife - die, my father nearly die from a heart attack. It was one after another and copletely out of my control. I spiraled into depression and I saw it for what it was and just kept going.
I would also smile and say - I am fine if you asked and make a joke with a smile that slide off my face the minute you turned away. It took me 3 years to work out of it. All you can do is keep moving forward and sooner or later either life happens to you and something or someone fills that void - or you tire of the race.
Robin was haunted and his demons were real to him. The brillance that made him a wonder as a comedian when turn on himslef in doubt and fear must have been terrifying.
Imagine this type of power turned against you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clGhMK4AtvU
He when in doubt and fear was his own worst enemy.