Author Topic: Gotham Spoilers (Read 21661 times)

Kaos Arcanna · « **on:** September 23, 2014, 12:04:34 AM »

Watching it now.

It's off to a good start.

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Teikiatsu · « **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2014, 12:22:43 AM »

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Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2014, 12:32:16 AM »

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If that's Catwoman she'll be a little... matronly(?) when Bruce grows up won't she?

And so far we have confirmed 2-face, Riddler and Penguin? I'm not assuming the shooter is Joker yet.

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Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #3 on:** September 23, 2014, 12:34:57 AM »

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Teikiatsu · « **Reply #4 on:** September 23, 2014, 01:16:03 AM »

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Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2014, 01:17:38 AM »

All things considered, they did better than I expected.

I'll be back next week.

FlyingCarcass · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2014, 01:34:43 AM »

I enjoyed the episode.

Peacemaker · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2014, 02:09:19 AM »

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Super Firebug · « **Reply #8 on:** September 23, 2014, 02:50:33 AM »

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Is the pepper girl supposed to be Poison Ivy

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All in all, the first episode shows promise.

Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 23, 2014, 03:09:51 AM »

They always mispronounce names in these shows.... "Fal-koh-nee" not "Fal-cone". Just like it's "Raysh" al Ghul, not "Razz" al Ghul.

Other than that, and that by the time Bruce becomes Batman some of his Rouges Gallery will be a bit...old, I really liked it. Definitely will be tuning in next week.

Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #10 on:** September 23, 2014, 11:00:21 AM »

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They always mispronounce names in these shows.... "Fal-koh-nee" not "Fal-cone". Just like it's "Raysh" al Ghul, not "Razz" al Ghul.

Other than that, and that by the time Bruce becomes Batman some of his Rouges Gallery will be a bit...old, I really liked it. Definitely will be tuning in next week.

Well, they want to have SOME of the recognizable characters in the show, and depending on when Bruce becomes Batman they won't be THAT old. Selina is 15. Both Cobblepot and Nygma look to be early 20s. Bruce is 12. He will surely be Batman by his early 20s, so they won't QUITE be ready to draw Social Security yet.

mrultimate · « **Reply #11 on:** September 23, 2014, 05:31:17 PM »

I really enjoyed the Pilot. It's hard for me to imagine any way it could have been better.

tripthicket · « **Reply #12 on:** September 23, 2014, 09:30:42 PM »

Thumbs up from me as well. Lots of good set-up while still managing to give us an entertaining show. When I compare this to the beginning of Smallville, or even Arrow, really, this is looking good right out of the gate. I'll be there next week, same Ba-uh, Gotham..time... aw, nerts.

Tenzhi · « **Reply #13 on:** September 28, 2014, 10:05:07 AM »

I like Bullock, Gordon, and Alfred... I think they're laying the recognizable characters on a bit too thick, but the show is interesting and I am going to try to keep up with it.

Nos482 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 28, 2014, 06:03:21 PM »

Riddler?
Great, now I have to watch this...

Mental Maden · « **Reply #15 on:** September 29, 2014, 07:46:32 PM »

I like the fact that one of the big mysteries of the show is who will become Joker. They say they will have several possibilities based on various origin stories and we won't see who it really is for a while.

GamingGlen · « **Reply #16 on:** September 29, 2014, 10:52:49 PM »

Quote from: Mental Maden on September 29, 2014, 07:46:32 PM

I like the fact that one of the big mysteries of the show is who will become Joker. They say they will have several possibilities based on various origin stories and we won't see who it really is for a while.

Won't be that long: first sweeps week, with lots of ads about it the week before.

Mental Maden · « **Reply #17 on:** September 30, 2014, 01:00:25 AM »

Lil Catwoman has a freakishly adult looking face.

Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #18 on:** September 30, 2014, 01:14:48 AM »

Quote from: Mental Maden on September 30, 2014, 01:00:25 AM

Lil Catwoman has a freakishly adult looking face.

I dunno. I think in bright light she looks appropriately youthful.

Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 30, 2014, 07:24:24 AM »

I don't know about y'all, but I actually enjoyed the second episode more than the first.

eabrace · « **Reply #20 on:** September 30, 2014, 09:51:25 AM »

And from the preview for next week, it looks like we'll get to see Professor Pyg.

KennonGL · « **Reply #21 on:** October 01, 2014, 03:24:21 PM »

I've only watched the pilot so far, but I thought it at least warranted a few more
episodes before I make my mind up.

About 1/2 way through the pilot though, my wife looks up and says "OK, so it's just
another cop show, except it's in Gotham."

Which pretty much sums up any of my thoughts about the show too. I think we were
both expecting more Batman and less CSI: Gotham

Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 01, 2014, 09:43:35 PM »

I'm not seeing much CSI here. This doesn't come off as procedural to me, but more drama/action. Feels more like Arrow to me.

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And from the preview for next week, it looks like we'll get to see Professor Pyg.

After they said something about "he's going after bad cops", I was thinking it'd be Prometheus. I'm glad they're using more obscure villains like the Dollmaker, and possibly Pyg, Prometheus, and I'm sure others. That's what I liked about Beware the Batman.

I'm trying to figure out if this show is set in present day or what though. Everyone's using cellphones, but at the same time, a lot of the cars, especially the police cruisers, are from 80s or earlier.

Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 07, 2014, 05:42:55 PM »

Great show last night. That lady had to have one helluva headache....

eabrace · « **Reply #24 on:** October 07, 2014, 11:22:36 PM »

Sadly, it seems we did not actually get Pyg. Now that, however, begs the question: Was that an intentional chain jerking, or pure coincidence that we got to see him in a pig mask? I almost hope they were intentionally screwing with Batman fans just because they can.

Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 08, 2014, 02:59:48 AM »

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Sadly, it seems we did not actually get Pyg. Now that, however, begs the question: Was that an intentional chain jerking, or pure coincidence that we got to see him in a pig mask? I almost hope they were intentionally screwing with Batman fans just because they can.

The dude's second disguise made me think of The Shadow. Possibly another nod since Batman is somewhat based on that character.

CG · « **Reply #26 on:** October 08, 2014, 02:04:45 PM »

"If he's killing cops, that's a health and safety issue." - Bullock

Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 14, 2014, 06:04:37 AM »

I tell you they certainly nailed the casting on these guys. Robin Lord Taylor as the Penguin is unreal. The dude creeps me the hell out every week.

Mental Maden · « **Reply #28 on:** October 15, 2014, 04:38:49 AM »

I'd watch it if it was just about Penguin he's so good. Best part of the show so far.

Mandu · « **Reply #29 on:** October 18, 2014, 07:07:29 PM »

I've never been a huge fan of procedurals and this one is no different in that aspect. But I'll keep watching it just for the characters. Just like I kept watching the abysmal "The Cape" just for Keith David and James Frane. I absolutely love Penguin and could watch him all day. I also love Selena Kyle but to be honest she kinda creeps me out too. Not because the actress or character is creepy but because it's like watching a 15 year old Michelle Pfeiffer. I'm pretty sure Michelle did discover the secret of time travel.

Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 21, 2014, 05:57:05 PM »

Quote from: Mandu on October 18, 2014, 07:07:29 PM

I've never been a huge fan of procedurals and this one is no different in that aspect.

See, I'm not seeing where this is a procedural. Yes, they're going to take clues and ultimately solve the crime, cause the main character is a cop. But this is nothing like CSI or Law & Order.

Tenzhi · « **Reply #31 on:** October 21, 2014, 06:22:08 PM »

Indeed. It doesn't focus on the procedures that would make it a procedural.

Mental Maden · « **Reply #32 on:** October 21, 2014, 08:59:48 PM »

It's just an old fashion cop/mob show, not a procedural. (or at least very little)

eabrace · « **Reply #33 on:** October 28, 2014, 01:03:47 AM »

Was it just me, or

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FlyingCarcass · « **Reply #34 on:** November 11, 2014, 02:47:18 AM »

Hey, it's future Hush!

eabrace · « **Reply #35 on:** November 11, 2014, 03:51:45 AM »

I think tonight was my favorite episode. The writers are really starting to hit their stride.

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Mental Maden · « **Reply #36 on:** November 11, 2014, 02:25:03 PM »

Just as a crime show, I really enjoy this. Some great characters, good writing and twisted plots usually considered "too complicated" for network TV viewers. And the show even looks good. Then add in that this is the Batman world and all the tie ins and Easter eggs. I also like that they've made little Bruce a bit venge-crazy and Alfred is a pretty dark mentor. I like that touch, and it's one we haven't really seen yet in the live action versions before it.

Plus the Penguin.

Tenzhi · « **Reply #37 on:** November 12, 2014, 01:16:36 AM »

The Penguin is better than I was expecting when I first saw him. But I think Bullock is my favourite character on the show right now.

Mental Maden · « **Reply #38 on:** November 12, 2014, 03:48:24 AM »

Yeah, Bullock has been great. Donal Logue is great in just about everything.

Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #39 on:** November 12, 2014, 03:57:46 AM »

I'm liking the way Nygma is developing too. Honestly, I'm not too sure there's a character I don't like.

tripthicket · « **Reply #40 on:** November 12, 2014, 06:57:45 AM »

Arrow, Agents of SHIELD, The Flash, Gotham (and more superhero TV shows coming), added to the I'm-very-grateful-for-them chain of superhero movies over the last several years (and I haven't even mentioned the upcoming explosion of superhero video/PC games - oops, I just did!):

It's a good time to be a geek. Represent!

Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #41 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:05:52 AM »

Gotham is still one of those shows I enjoy watching each week.

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FlyingCarcass · « **Reply #42 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:52:31 AM »

Tonight's episode was fun; Alfred got to be a bit of a badass.

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eabrace · « **Reply #43 on:** November 25, 2014, 01:24:18 PM »

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Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #44 on:** November 28, 2014, 04:43:18 AM »

Quote from: FlyingCarcass on November 25, 2014, 03:52:31 AM

Tonight's episode was fun; Alfred got to be a bit of a badass.

In regards to the Wayne murder, and this is pure speculation on my part, but is anyone else starting to suspect...
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...the Court of Owls? What the assassin said to Gordan, about how her employers were watching what he was trying to do and laughing, gave me pause. After all, isn't manipulating Gotham from the shadows sort of their schtick?

I started to think that too.

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Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #45 on:** January 06, 2015, 03:03:54 AM »

And at long last a new episode.

It was sort of amusing ... though ...

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Tenzhi · « **Reply #46 on:** January 06, 2015, 10:41:05 PM »

The relationship between Montoya and Barbara is the worst thing about this show so far.

Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #47 on:** January 06, 2015, 11:56:46 PM »

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The relationship between Montoya and Barbara is the worst thing about this show so far.

It COULD have been good, but the execution has been sorely lacking.

CG · « **Reply #48 on:** January 11, 2015, 04:53:35 AM »

Quote from: Tenzhi on January 06, 2015, 10:41:05 PM

The relationship between Montoya and Barbara is the worst thing about this show so far.

Frankly Barbara is the worst thing on the show. I keep hoping that this character dies and he names his daughter in her memory...

Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #49 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:07:15 PM »

Quote from: Tenzhi on January 06, 2015, 10:41:05 PM

The relationship between Montoya and Barbara is the worst thing about this show so far.

Agreed.

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Frankly Barbara is the worst thing on the show. I keep hoping that this character dies and he names his daughter in her memory...

Double-agreed.

Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #50 on:** January 30, 2015, 04:07:35 AM »

Bruce, Bruce ...

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tripthicket · « **Reply #51 on:** January 30, 2015, 06:28:41 AM »

Interesting that we've not had mention of any counseling for Bruce, especially in light of the way Alfred treated Bruce over the broken snowglobe. I get it: a bit of tough love, pick yourself up and move on, do something positive. I don't know why it never struck me before (probably because no version of Batman that I recall has dwelt very long on Bruce's actual childhood), but the relationship between Bruce and Alfred seems...a bit odd, somehow. Yes, the Waynes set it up for Alfred to be Bruce's legal guardian if anything happened to them. But did they mean for Alfred to go on acting as a servant rather than taking on a parental role? I would think it's what a traumatized child actually needs, as opposing to a butler who treats him like a little prince in some ways -- Bruce obsesses over certain areas of expertise, becoming a Batman larvae, if you will, and Alfred lets it happen. Teaches him to fight. Pushes him to be tough.

Ah well, it's just comic book stuff, and the writers have to do something with Bruce and Alfred that will inevitably lead to the Caped Crusader. I thinks too much!

CG · « **Reply #52 on:** January 30, 2015, 11:40:22 AM »

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Interesting that we've not had mention of any counseling for Bruce

I'm pretty sure one of the first two episodes mentioned it and Alfred was declining as per the Wayne's instructions.

Tenzhi · « **Reply #53 on:** January 31, 2015, 07:00:04 AM »

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He came across as a bit of a brat in this week's episode. If I had been Selina I would have probably done the same thing.

Seemed more like Selina being a brat to me, with the whole righteous indignation at the implication that living in an actual house with decent food is better than living on the streets and being lucky to eat at all. How dare he imply that better is better! The nerve!

But she might have been acting like that on purpose, to keep him from getting mixed up in her problems.

Tenzhi · « **Reply #54 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:52:30 PM »

Loved the little interaction between Riddler and Penguin.

eabrace · « **Reply #55 on:** February 11, 2015, 09:16:25 AM »

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Loved the little interaction between Riddler and Penguin.

That bit was beautiful.

FlyingCarcass · « **Reply #56 on:** February 11, 2015, 10:47:09 AM »

I liked the lone headbanger in Penguin's club.

Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 16, 2015, 06:10:57 AM »

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That bit was beautiful.

Yeah that was really well done.

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Tenzhi · « **Reply #58 on:** February 16, 2015, 10:19:43 AM »

No chills, Joe. It actually made me leery of the next episode. I don't see them being able to introduce that character in a manner that doesn't leave a bad taste...

Mandu · « **Reply #59 on:** February 17, 2015, 01:49:33 AM »

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Night-Hawk07 · « **Reply #60 on:** February 17, 2015, 02:32:28 AM »

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Bra-vo Gotham, bra-vo! *claps*

CG · « **Reply #61 on:** February 18, 2015, 02:48:07 PM »

This reminds me of Smallville where all the other heroes and villains show up except the signature hero.

Vee · « **Reply #62 on:** February 18, 2015, 11:54:28 PM »

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Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #63 on:** February 19, 2015, 02:34:06 AM »

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Kid was a good actor but i'm never thrilled when they fill in too much of the Joker's history. I guess they're either throwing out the red hood stuff or perhaps he's institutionalized and helped through therapy/drugs to become a run of the mill costumed hero, then the acid bath/bleached skin brings all this back?

The more Gotham i see though it really gives insight into why Bats's villains always reappear so quickly. I think 'escaped from arkham' is just their code for police investigations so botched that the judge had to throw out the case. So Gordon arrests half the circus, keeps the two with alibis in jail, gets his lone clue from an idiot and solves the case through some combination of sorcery and an inherent distrust of red heads, then uses the interrogation as a date and gets a confession from a minor without a lawyer present. And this is the competent incorruptible cop. And this is all before they rely on the vigilante who never testifies to capture all their criminals. throw that into the mix and they should be able to just rent out blackgate for raves and kids' halloween parties.

Sort of agreeing with this comment right here.

There is a danger in putting so much stuff in so soon.

CG · « **Reply #64 on:** February 19, 2015, 03:24:16 AM »

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The more Gotham i see though it really gives insight into why Bats's villains always reappear so quickly. I think 'escaped from arkham' is just their code for police investigations so botched that the judge had to throw out the case. So Gordon arrests half the circus, keeps the two with alibis in jail, gets his lone clue from an idiot and solves the case through some combination of sorcery and an inherent distrust of red heads, then uses the interrogation as a date and gets a confession from a minor without a lawyer present. And this is the competent incorruptible cop. And this is all before they rely on the vigilante who never testifies to capture all their criminals. throw that into the mix and they should be able to just rent out blackgate for raves and kids' halloween parties.

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Vee · « **Reply #65 on:** February 19, 2015, 03:28:47 AM »

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Mandu · « **Reply #66 on:** February 20, 2015, 10:46:35 PM »

Did they give the kid's age at any point? If they did I don't remember it. I didn't once assume him to be a minor because he looks like he is about 20 and the actor is 22.

And I may be in the minority but I really hope they kill off Fish by the end of the season. She just plain isn't an interesting character or good actress. That's why I'm very happy she is a new character and not a staple of the DC universe. It means killing her off is possible.

CG · « **Reply #67 on:** February 21, 2015, 01:28:52 AM »

Personally, I like Fish. She's got style.

It might go the other way; she might be so popular that she gets created into the comics!

Vee · « **Reply #68 on:** February 21, 2015, 04:06:15 AM »

I don't mind Fish now that she's toned down the shameless eartha kitt catwoman impersonation she was doing the first few episodes.

i just assumed joker was a minor because he didn't seem to have a job with the circus yet.

Tenzhi · « **Reply #69 on:** February 21, 2015, 09:40:55 AM »

He looked like he'd make a better Jim Corrigan/Spectre in the future than a Joker to me.

FlyingCarcass · « **Reply #70 on:** February 24, 2015, 02:03:28 AM »

In regards to the Fish development, that was unexpected.
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Super Firebug · « **Reply #71 on:** February 24, 2015, 02:28:27 AM »

I would never have recognized Jeffrey Combs visually, but there was no mistaking that voice.

eabrace · « **Reply #72 on:** February 24, 2015, 02:07:16 PM »

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In regards to the Fish development, that was unexpected.

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Excidia · « **Reply #73 on:** February 24, 2015, 02:47:53 PM »

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Super Firebug · « **Reply #74 on:** February 24, 2015, 09:29:18 PM »

Was anyone else surprised that it was green? I'd bet that you could watch every close-up, of this character, in the series to date, and never see a green one.

Tenzhi · « **Reply #75 on:** February 26, 2015, 09:15:09 AM »

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They should have taken her other eye just for spite.

I'm also firmly in the kill off Fish camp.

Anyone else thinking Doc Thompkins will turn out to be the mysterious Doctor (can't remember the name given)

If you mean the Doctor who's trafficking in human body parts and whose name was German for Dollmaker... Having that turn out to be Dr. Leslie Thompkins, a fairly prominent good character in the Batman universe, would be extremely wrong.

Vee · « **Reply #76 on:** February 26, 2015, 10:11:31 AM »

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Tenzhi · « **Reply #77 on:** February 26, 2015, 10:23:10 AM »

Wasn't the Dollmaker alluded to as being behind a caper in an earlier episode of Gotham?

Excidia · « **Reply #78 on:** February 26, 2015, 02:42:22 PM »

Ahh, didn't know Thompkins was a character in the comics. I pretty much just thought "what's the crappiest writing they could do in this situation" and revealing the new love interest as a psychopath was it.

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Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #79 on:** March 03, 2015, 03:20:41 AM »

So ... interesting episode tonight.

I'm not entirely sure

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I really feel like Robin (Penguin) Taylor is being wasted though. He's a good actor, but they are trying to pace his rise to the top a bit too much. I'm not seeing the character seem to learn anything from his mistakes.

eabrace · « **Reply #80 on:** March 03, 2015, 02:16:25 PM »

That bit with

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Vee · « **Reply #81 on:** March 05, 2015, 04:35:20 AM »

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Mandu · « **Reply #82 on:** March 06, 2015, 01:53:10 AM »

Not to mention that since he is a guy his hand would have been busy doing something other than waving in front of his face.

Vee · « **Reply #83 on:** March 06, 2015, 02:46:15 AM »

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Not to mention that since he is a guy his hand would have been busy doing something other than waving in front of his face.

iknorite, like he's just gonna let those sit there.

HalcyonS · « **Reply #84 on:** March 06, 2015, 04:27:31 PM »

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Just watched it. The dollmaker's doll has to be one of the worst special effects i've ever seen. 60s tv had better effects than that.

I admit it reminded me of the terrible movie Frankenhooker....

Tenzhi · « **Reply #85 on:** March 06, 2015, 08:51:16 PM »

They're just aiming to promote Combs' new movie Reanimator Reassembled.

CG · « **Reply #86 on:** March 07, 2015, 02:36:59 AM »

Jada Pinkett-Smith leaving Gotham at the end of the season: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jada-pinkett-smith-leaving-gotham/story?id=29449760

Mandu · « **Reply #87 on:** March 07, 2015, 05:31:15 AM »

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Jada Pinkett-Smith leaving Gotham at the end of the season: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jada-pinkett-smith-leaving-gotham/story?id=29449760

Yay!

Tenzhi · « **Reply #88 on:** April 21, 2015, 05:53:42 PM »

Anyone see the Fledermaus Gallery Holds Charity Ball headline?

FlyingCarcass · « **Reply #89 on:** May 05, 2015, 01:07:33 AM »

"Dance of the Knights", a good song for the discovery of the bat cave.

Kaos Arcanna · « **Reply #90 on:** May 05, 2015, 01:22:00 AM »

Ah, Gotham.

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FatherXmas · « **Reply #91 on:** May 05, 2015, 02:50:19 AM »

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Ah, Gotham.

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Sooner or later it drives everyone crazy.

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Someone explain to me how Gordon names a daughter of his "Barbara" now?

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Excidia · « **Reply #92 on:** May 05, 2015, 01:23:23 PM »

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Ah, Gotham.

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Sooner or later it drives everyone crazy.

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Someone explain to me how Gordon names a daughter of his "Barbara" now?

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Tenzhi · « **Reply #93 on:** May 05, 2015, 09:06:04 PM »

She's not necessarily dead.

Mental Maden · « **Reply #94 on:** May 05, 2015, 09:57:51 PM »

I've enjoyed the show, but that season finale was terrible. Weird motivations, plots jumping forward at light speed, bizarre fight scenes where nobody can use a gun.
Really bad.

Vee · « **Reply #95 on:** May 07, 2015, 01:37:18 AM »

The Riddler's insanity bit which reminded me of how they'd always depict drug use in 70s and 80s TV seemed especially bad, though I don't exactly have any psychotic breaks to compare it too, so idk.

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