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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #100 on: January 23, 2015, 03:08:15 PM »
Capt. Cold is great, and I liked Heatwave.  Nice casting to have the brothers from Prison Break.

I also liked that Snart trained Heat Wave to learn to repair/rebuild his own gun.  Presumably Snart can do the same, so they'll always be able to replace them!

I would be amazed if the Snart's sister appears in the show like she does in the comics...

All that said, it wasn't a great episode.  Snart and Heat Wave are only normal people.  As Barry has said to Oliver: "It's literally like you're standing still".   Barry has disarmed and zip-tied rooms full of gun toting lunatics, so I don't buy that guys with fancy guns are any kind of threat without some extenuating circumstances ie. ambush.
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #101 on: January 23, 2015, 05:15:27 PM »
If you see it like that, there's zero fun to watching or reading The Flash.
Unless he's fighting another speedster every fight should be over in milliseconds and end with his opponent splashed all over the next wall... yes, even psychic Grodd.
Without a healthy dose of willing suspension of disbelief the whole genre is just dumb.
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #102 on: January 24, 2015, 01:26:54 AM »
Quote from: Nos482 on January 22, 2015, 04:34:44 AM
I can't lie... I love Captain Cold ;D
He's just so cool, always having back up plans and all.

On a related note, do you think we'll see a true to the comics
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Golden Glider?
Also, I really liked the ongoing Firestorm plot.
Should be interesting to watch Catlin's reaction when she finds out the truth about Ronnie and Dr. Stein.

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I'm betting GG will just have razor sharp skates and maybe some exploding jewelery. She will skate on ice that CC lays down.

As to Firestorm I have no idea how they are going to handle the Stein/Raymond connection or if they even will.  Stein wasn't in the tunnel with Ronnie.
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #103 on: January 24, 2015, 02:02:49 AM »
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #104 on: January 24, 2015, 02:04:40 AM »
Quote from: Nos482 on January 23, 2015, 05:15:27 PM
If you see it like that, there's zero fun to watching or reading The Flash.
Unless he's fighting another speedster every fight should be over in milliseconds and end with his opponent splashed all over the next wall... yes, even psychic Grodd.
Without a healthy dose of willing suspension of disbelief the whole genre is just dumb.
:roll:
There's lots of great things about the Flash to like even if the fights aren't always well thought out.
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #105 on: January 24, 2015, 07:24:15 PM »
I guess I'm alone. I had a really hard time watching this episode. The dialogue, especially between Cold and Heatwave, makes Batman Forever look like an Academy Award winner. Maybe it's just first season jitters, but I don't remember Arrow being like this in its first season.
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #106 on: January 25, 2015, 12:19:10 AM »
Arrow was pretty terrible, dialog-wise, in the first season. lol
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #107 on: January 26, 2015, 02:47:52 AM »
Quote from: Nos482 on January 23, 2015, 05:15:27 PM
If you see it like that, there's zero fun to watching or reading The Flash.
Unless he's fighting another speedster every fight should be over in milliseconds and end with his opponent splashed all over the next wall... yes, even psychic Grodd.
Without a healthy dose of willing suspension of disbelief the whole genre is just dumb.

Its the same problem with Superman. People tend to forget he has super speed as well and a lot of the times he could avoid fights or mop up criminals in seconds just as the Flash should. But what the fun in that.

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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #108 on: January 26, 2015, 07:54:42 PM »
Yeah, one could think he actually likes getting shot at.
Maybe it tickles....
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #109 on: January 26, 2015, 09:26:28 PM »
Quote from: doc7924 on January 26, 2015, 02:47:52 AM
Its the same problem with Superman. People tend to forget he has super speed as well and a lot of the times he could avoid fights or mop up criminals in seconds just as the Flash should. But what the fun in that.
With all those other powers, sometimes I think Superman forgets he has it. =D
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #110 on: January 27, 2015, 08:20:40 AM »
At least nowadays he refrains from throwing his emblem :P
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #111 on: January 28, 2015, 05:26:14 PM »
Hah, knew it was
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Wells.
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Also, first mention of the Speedforce.
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #112 on: January 29, 2015, 03:54:35 AM »
Quote from: Nos482 on January 28, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
Also, first mention of the Speedforce.
I wasn't sure if that was the first mention or not, but I thought it might be.
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #113 on: January 29, 2015, 01:24:32 PM »
Quote from: Nos482 on January 28, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
Hah, knew it was
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Wells.
8)

Also, first mention of the Speedforce.

I still think it's a case of "They are" and not "He is."  I think they will have both reverse flashes.  One who has the hero worship and Flash must succeed thing going while the other wants to make Flash suffer and is responsible for his mothers death.
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #114 on: January 29, 2015, 02:24:01 PM »
I would tend to agree that there may be more than one Reverse Flash.

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I'm not sure the source or problem with Well's powers, but he seems to be investing some of them into the yellow suit.  I'm figuring that if someone else got their hands on the suit, they'd have some power.

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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #115 on: January 30, 2015, 02:19:31 PM »
Quote from: CG on January 29, 2015, 02:24:01 PM
I would tend to agree that there may be more than one Reverse Flash.

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I'm not sure the source or problem with Well's powers, but he seems to be investing some of them into the yellow suit.  I'm figuring that if someone else got their hands on the suit, they'd have some power.

I am pondering a few things after tonight's episode:

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Does Wells actually have super speed or is he somehow siphoning it off from Barry during all his training at STAR Labs and using it to heal his legs?
If he has super speed then how did he get it?
Its obvious he is either from the future or has been there.
I'm sure that he is somehow involved in the death of Nora. Its because of her death that Barry joined the police and was in the right place at the right time to get his powers.
So far I love all the mysteries - I just hope it lives up to al its setting up.




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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #116 on: January 30, 2015, 03:01:52 PM »
Quote from: doc7924 on January 30, 2015, 02:19:31 PM
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Does Wells actually have super speed or is he somehow siphoning it off from Barry during all his training at STAR Labs and using it to heal his legs?
If he has super speed then how did he get it?
So far I love all the mysteries - I just hope it lives up to al its setting up.
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I wonder if the treadmill he keeps Barry running on has anything to do with his powers?  Maybe he's siphoning power off that way? He seems to be powering himself up artificially.

Also - when he ran out of juice and fell to the ground, was that because he was exhausted or because the damage to his spine came back when his powers failed?
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #117 on: February 04, 2015, 02:11:53 AM »
You know, I'm not sure if the people behind the show really understand how problematic it is for a hero to be holding people without a fair trial.

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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #118 on: February 04, 2015, 07:49:39 PM »
nice episode, quite emotional too.
and...
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Re: The Flash! (spoilers probably eventually)
« Reply #119 on: February 04, 2015, 08:38:39 PM »
Quote from: Kaos Arcanna on February 04, 2015, 02:11:53 AM
You know, I'm not sure if the people behind the show really understand how problematic it is for a hero to be holding people without a fair trial.
Agreed. And the conditions they're holding them in would never do. Are they regularly fed? Do they get exercise? How about facilities? I don't see any bunks, sinks, or toilets in those cells. Changes of clothes? Visitors? How would the flash feel if his father in Iron Heights was treated like that? I guess it's one of those things we have to ignore.
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