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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #160 on: October 07, 2012, 06:00:09 PM »
Instead, I'd like to offer a Realignment of COMMUNITY Effort aka. my latest crazy thoughts about how to save the game while making breakfast.  Here goes:  while we are each committed to saving CoH (our collective investment of time, creativity and some money) and while I'd like to see these efforts continue, TonyV or Mr W (or anyone else for that matter) what about the idea of the Community reaching out to Formerly-Known-As-Paragon-Studios aka our development team and seeing if the entreprenuerial interest in acquring the IP from NCSoft (that I gather was rebuffed) could instead to used to back a newly formed studio.  Sure, it would mean a total start over and likely months with no Paragon Studios MMO; however, we know and trust this development team and they know what we want in an MMO and listen to the community.   While it could at best be similar it could not be identical or draw on CoH Lore, but it's possible a re-rolled MMO by the dev team we've come trust would surpassed CoH since (imo) the Studio was at its creative peak and this peak could possibly be the launching point of a new MMO by this remarkable team.

This cannot be done until November 1st at the very earliest. Due to California state law, the 60 days severance considers the former devs to be NCSoft employees until the end of the severance package OR until they find a new job, whichever comes first. This means that currently, ANYTHING they do in the MMO industry is the property of NCSoft. They have stated flatly that they CANNOT consider another independent project until November 1st, because if they started it before then it would belong to NCSoft.

If they choose to do this, the majority of people involved in Plan Z would pack up our toys, hand them to the former Paragons, and say "Here, this is what we've got so far, use what works and toss what doesn't, we'd like to help if you can use our skills."

Plan Z as is would involve forming a completely new studio without any of the Paragon developer assets. I'd really rather have the Paragon devs on board, even if it means that I get tossed out of the creation process. ;) (OK, I'd be a little sad about that last part. I admit it. But I'd rather have their experience running the show. MUCH more likely to get solid results, not to mention funding. :)
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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #161 on: October 07, 2012, 06:01:13 PM »
They have stated flatly that they CANNOT consider another independent project until November 1st, because if they started it before then it would belong to NCSoft.

Wait... so you can get fired from a company, but still belong to them? WTH?

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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #162 on: October 07, 2012, 06:04:27 PM »
Wait... so you can get fired from a company, but still belong to them? WTH?

Severance package for being laid off - means you're still getting paid by them, which means you're still under contract to them.  (Being laid off is not legally the same as being fired. No, seriously. It's not the same thing. Ask your local unemployment insurance people.)

California has some interesting employment laws. That's the extremely short version of something far more complicated that a person with actual legal knowledge would be able to explain in much more detail.
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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #163 on: October 07, 2012, 06:05:16 PM »
Wait... so you can get fired from a company, but still belong to them? WTH?
yes, fun times isn't it?

I was fired by one company and my employment contract blocked me from working on websites for 2 years. Had to turn to retail sales....

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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #164 on: October 07, 2012, 06:06:26 PM »
Severance package for being laid off - means you're still getting paid by them, which means you're still under contract to them.  (Being laid off is not legally the same as being fired. No, seriously. It's not the same thing. Ask your local unemployment insurance people.)

California has some interesting employment laws. That's the extremely short version of something far more complicated that a person with actual legal knowledge would be able to explain in much more detail.

But isn't the point of a severance package to keep you alive long enough to find a new job? Seems kinda pointless if you can't get a new job until after the package terminates.

(Anyway, end-of-derail after that question)

yes, fun times isn't it?

I was fired by one company and my employment contract blocked me from working on websites for 2 years. Had to turn to retail sales....

That'll remind me to give the finger to anyone who ever gives me that kind of an offer. Already had all my skills rendered worthless once by the economy crash. No way I'm intentionally putting myself at that kind of risk a second time. If I wanted to go through that kind of BS, I'd go on Iron Chef.

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« Reply #165 on: October 07, 2012, 06:10:50 PM »
Those are called "Non Competition Contracts"  And where *I* live, in Canada, they're illegal.  I was made to sign one at my last place of employment.  Well guess what, according to Human Resources and Development Canada, Those are not worth the paper they're written on.

Sucks for Paragon Studios though :(

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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #166 on: October 07, 2012, 06:29:57 PM »

Instead, I'd like to offer a Realignment of COMMUNITY Effort aka. my latest crazy thoughts about how to save the game while making breakfast.  Here goes:  while we are each committed to saving CoH (our collective investment of time, creativity and some money) and while I'd like to see these efforts continue, TonyV or Mr W (or anyone else for that matter) what about the idea of the Community reaching out to Formerly-Known-As-Paragon-Studios aka our development team and seeing if the entreprenuerial interest in acquring the IP from NCSoft (that I gather was rebuffed) could instead to used to back a newly formed studio.  Sure, it would mean a total start over and likely months with no Paragon Studios MMO; however, we know and trust this development team and they know what we want in an MMO and listen to the community.   While it could at best be similar it could not be identical or draw on CoH Lore, but it's possible a re-rolled MMO by the dev team we've come trust would surpassed CoH since (imo) the Studio was at its creative peak and this peak could possibly be the launching point of a new MMO by this remarkable team.

Flame away if you must if what I'm proposing is heresy.

No flaming whatsoever from me, I think you're absolutely right - it is all about money, or ROI as you called it - from what I can tell B&S is huge on the Korean market, and they expect it'll be the same here too - and honestly, why shouldn't they? Isn't it the West itself that came up with the phrase "Sex sells"?
I half suspect that most of NCSoft's headhonchos don't even play games, so they're not likely to have a personal stake in which games stay, nor do I think they hold anti-American sentiments.

And I also fully believe that backing a reborn Paragon Studios project would be a very good thing, these people have years of experience, they've braved the rocky roads of the MMO industry and all the pitfalls that come with it.
There is not a single doubt in my mind that their new project would do things right from the start, opposed to City of Heroes that took years to get where it is now. (which hurts like hell, seeing so many things fall into place... especially with all the stuff that was coming with i24... and then the plug got pulled...)
Hopefully this time around they also won't make the mistake of splitting up the Euro and US servers, which last time was such a huge waste of potential... (not to mention most MMO's have now also learned that lesson, SWTOR and GW2 both let you play on either set of servers without needing two accounts - another thing which CoH remedied not that long ago).

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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #167 on: October 07, 2012, 06:31:15 PM »
Those are called "Non Competition Contracts"  And where *I* live, in Canada, they're illegal.  I was made to sign one at my last place of employment.  Well guess what, according to Human Resources and Development Canada, Those are not worth the paper they're written on.

Actually, no-compete clauses are illegal in California as well. The only exceptions are a few special cases involving people with a direct stake in the company (i.e. partial ownership), which AFAIK, nobody at Paragon had.

Now there can be restrictions on severances as to whether or not they get to claim the full amount of the severance pay, but that could also be looked at as still being employed by NCSoft -- just being paid to do nothing until the contract runs out.

Once that is complete and fully paid out, then they have significantly more options.

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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #168 on: October 07, 2012, 06:47:32 PM »
Yeah I'm playing around in the character creator, and even with Chest Slider max and Waist slider Min...the female character looks just like your average barbie doll. 

And of course I can't take a screenie of it. :(
In order to take a screenshot from the costume creator, you can hit the "Print Screen/SysRq" button on the keyboard, open a graphics editor (even MS Paint will work) and paste the image into the editor.

That being said, if you end up with just a black square, try switching your game to Windowed mode prior to opening the costume creator and grabbing your image.  I've noticed I have to do that on my new desktop.  Not sure if it's related to the graphics card or that I'm running under Windows 7 now whereas I was running under Windows XP before.
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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #169 on: October 07, 2012, 06:49:02 PM »
Not only that, but something that *still* plagued CoX since the server list merge was that the serial codes were *still* region locked for accounts/perks/time codes. This is why as soon as the announcement came out for the closure of the game, I was unable to get a game box set to "upgrade" my account to VIP again. The *last*  box that we EU guys had was Good Vs Evil. That was almost 6 years ago. And I had already bought it, along with CoH (Collectors, there was no basic version) and I had the collectors edition of CoV as well (and you cannot apply a *basic* code to a collectors edition, but you can do the reverse

SWG from the very beginning allowed Europe to play in the Americas and viceversa.

Was a pretty good deal too, not just because there's no practical point to 'segregating' servers. But it also had the benefit that even people who had to play at hours that were odd for their time zone, could still find a large population to play with. I've always been a late-night owl, so most of my playtime happened with folks on the other side of the pond.

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« Reply #170 on: October 07, 2012, 06:52:47 PM »
SWG from the very beginning allowed Europe to play in the Americas and viceversa.

Was a pretty good deal too, not just because there's no practical point to 'segregating' servers. But it also had the benefit that even people who had to play at hours that were odd for their time zone, could still find a large population to play with. I've always been a late-night owl, so most of my playtime happened with folks on the other side of the pond.
Even Ultima Online did that. You could pick between EU and US servers (I think it listed the origin of the server between brackets after its name).
Then at some point every MMO suddenly decided to go racist and force us all into our own regions. =P
(I suspect WoW might have been that evildoer, since it has the split system and every MMO out there is all too eager to mimmick them - "monkey see, monkey do!").

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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #171 on: October 07, 2012, 07:01:30 PM »
Here's my latest draft. Barring objections, I think we should send it out today!


NCSoft to Customers: "We Are No Longer Producing Comics For Your Kids; We Hope They Enjoy Their New Subscription to Playboy!"

City of Heroes is, according to the official announcement that was the shocking first word of its impending closure, the "first and greatest" superhero online role-playing game. Employees of the studio producing its content and fans alike were stunned by the announcement from NCSoft, the company which publishes and owns the Intellectual Property rights to this family-friendly comic-book themed game, because by all measures it was a profitable product that more than pulled its own weight.

Explanation from NCSoft cites a "realignment of company focus" that was incompatible with City of Heroes. What is the new focus? In June of 2012, they released in Korea a new game called Blade and Soul, prominently advertising the art and style done by Hyung-Tae Kim in designing all of the visuals, particularly graphical exaggeration of the female characters that is extreme even by the standards of the Korean "manwha" style that already emphasizes their sexuality. Though the release date of this new game in the West is yet to be announced, it will almost certainly come in the fiscal year which starts with the final shutdown of the servers for City of Heroes (on Nov. 30, 2012).

As one person observed, it seems this realignment of focus is to replace this:

...with this:



While comic books have always had a spotty reputation with regards to their heroines' state of (un)dress, they have also had a reputation for wholesome messages and even the most swimsuit-model-esq super heroine was still an empowering figure, inspiring many girls as much as the muscle-bound heroes with their spandex uniforms inspired boys to fight for truth and justice. Even four-color villains are good, clean, cathartic fun, with plans so over-the-top that they're only taken seriously in a fictionalized context.

In the choices for which games to open and which to close in NCSoft's "realignment," some are concerned that they close the family-friendly game which attracts and empowers girl gamers as well as boys even as they open a salacious new title that objectifies women in extreme and unrealistic ways.

One blogger wrote, "As a parent, I will not be buying this game.  I do not want my children exposed to this kind of material.  I had no problems with them playing City of Heroes/Villains, but I refuse to allow them to even get a glimpse of this game.  I'm far from a prude, but this is just too far." Her blog referenced these two images, created by a fan of City of Heroes to emphasize the point:




City of Heroes brings together fathers and sons; one player is particularly upset because he had to recently ground his child from the internet, which means they will likely miss their last chances to enjoy this game together.

Another player has cited the game as the only place she and her father (who is fighting cancer) can really spend time together. "I really hope we save this game because he loves it sooooo much and he doesn't get to see me except on it most of the time," she wrote in a forum post on a site dedicated to saving their game, "I don't live down the street and haven't had a car in years. This is the world we connect in and where he's a hero, not sick."

The sentiments from those who use this game as a community to connect with family and bridge the generation gap seem unanimous: comic books are a great way to bond, but this "soft-core porn" (as one player termed it) sends them, at best, "to their bunk." "What?" said one player somewhat shamefacedly, "It's evil, but it's sexy evil."

It is clear, however, that City of Heroes is, to its players, more than a game. It is a community. A community that crosses gender and generational lines in a way that would be inappropriate to impossible for them to share with the new "realigned" focus of NCSoft's products designed to be enjoyed but a narrower and - NCSoft doubtless would claim - more grown-up masculine demographic...in private.
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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #172 on: October 07, 2012, 07:03:42 PM »
That being said, if you end up with just a black square, try switching your game to Windowed mode prior to opening the costume creator and grabbing your image.  I've noticed I have to do that on my new desktop.  Not sure if it's related to the graphics card or that I'm running under Windows 7 now whereas I was running under Windows XP before.

The black screen is a Windows 7 thing; it has to do with the desktop compositing IIRC, and using graphical overlays to speed up OpenGL content.

I've always had good success with the capture tool in GIMP being able to take screenshots even if PrintScreen didn't work.

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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #173 on: October 07, 2012, 07:12:12 PM »
I've always had good success with the capture tool in GIMP being able to take screenshots even if PrintScreen didn't work.
I have GIMP on the new PC (my version of Photoshop is old enough that I can't install it on Windows 7), but I'm not intimately familiar with all of it's functions yet.  I'll have to see if I can figure that one out.
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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #174 on: October 07, 2012, 07:16:05 PM »
eabrace, look for the GimpShop front end, it will change the gimp GUI to something closer to photoshop which may be of help to you.

Segev, I would suggest resizing the pictures some, just to make them a bit smaller unless the final format is going to flow a better.

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« Reply #175 on: October 07, 2012, 07:26:32 PM »
Resizing the pictures is a good idea. Right now, I'm grabbing them as links from wherever they are. My next move is to make a Word Doc out of this for attachment to email; I'll resize them for that and try to save them in that size as .png files so I can re-link them from my own web space. After a Word doc, I will attempt to make a .html version, but my html skills are limited, so I'll have to ask for aid in re-framing it to be professional-looking in that format.

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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #176 on: October 07, 2012, 07:30:06 PM »
Small note, the Colorado shooter was a self-admitted centrist, and reading what material he posted I believe him.

But yes, let us keep on topic. I am figuring out an angle to see if I can get an approval from my boss. She aok'd my World of Warcraft article earlier today, (an attack on a woman running for office, claiming she had a double life for having a level 68 Rogue....) so is wary of yet another game article.

And don't forget the other game-and-politics story, that one of the diplomats killed in Libya must have been a CIA spy, because he went by the code name "Vile Rat" in a mysterious computer network called "EVE Online".  I wish I was making that up. 
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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #177 on: October 07, 2012, 07:40:24 PM »
Resizing the pictures is a good idea. Right now, I'm grabbing them as links from wherever they are. My next move is to make a Word Doc out of this for attachment to email; I'll resize them for that and try to save them in that size as .png files so I can re-link them from my own web space. After a Word doc, I will attempt to make a .html version, but my html skills are limited, so I'll have to ask for aid in re-framing it to be professional-looking in that format.

Just an FYI, after inserting the images into Word, check the file size.  I have found working in Word (done daily) that some image types can make for a huge file dize that is difficult to open/email.  If you're sending this to media outlets via email, the recipients may be restricted in filesizes they receive.  This helps to stave off possible virus-laden emails.

.doc, .docx, and .exe files also get tagged by businesses.  Image files may also be tagged.

It's a problem I have at work.  Even links in emails can send an awaited email to my spambox.

If we want the message to get through and not lost to the spamfilter.

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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #178 on: October 07, 2012, 07:48:44 PM »
One of the OP's caption images seems to no longer be working correctly when linked to.

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Re: "...a realignment of company focus"
« Reply #179 on: October 07, 2012, 07:49:56 PM »
Just an FYI, after inserting the images into Word, check the file size.  I have found working in Word (done daily) that some image types can make for a huge file dize that is difficult to open/email.  If you're sending this to media outlets via email, the recipients may be restricted in filesizes they receive.  This helps to stave off possible virus-laden emails.

.doc, .docx, and .exe files also get tagged by businesses.  Image files may also be tagged.

It's a problem I have at work.  Even links in emails can send an awaited email to my spambox.

If we want the message to get through and not lost to the spamfilter.
Is there a file format that is better to use to send this than .doc, that it won't get auto-filtered?