And really, if they did start it up again and everyone went 'eeeew, NCSoft!' and didn't go for it they'd just shut it down a second time.
A truck.
A truck would stop me, yeeees ...
But not just any truck. I imagine it would have to be pretty big. And probably red. As trucks go, it would probably be a prime specimen, I'd say...
IF they turn COH into a Pay to Win (Incarnate stuff was touching on this) or some other Grind my money out of my pocket system. Then I will have to leave.
What's to stop them from shutting it down for no reason a second time? Fool me once...
Technically they already did - consider the levels of power you can attain with invention sets. Then realise that to get then you either have to have veteran rewards, buy an invention license or subscribe, all of which require paying money. Also they were selling the booster powers, and dual/team inspirations which were outright better than standard ones and unavailable without paying.
My conditions.. All my stuff back.. and Issue 24 released.. and an open apology..
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All the above but I don't thi8nk I could trust Nc Soft ever.
True the top gear was locked behind pay. But you can go all the way to 50 with out IOs at all. I didn't really start on Invention sets till 50 most of the time anyway. Like I said the Incarnate stuff and the signature story arcs were the only content locked behind the pay wall. I'm more frustrated at that move content should never be locked players are part of content in a MMO. The Booster powers, and Ins were more convince they made things easier there was never a you HAVE to have it. Then again perhaps that why I was loosing heart near the end I was seeing the corruption of that method of Milking the cash cow.
My absolute dealbreakers:
- NCSoft having the ability to shut it down again: I would prefer NCsoft be totally uninvolved, but so long as NCsoft does not have the ability to shut the game down again in its new incarnation, I'd probably be content. If NCsoft still has enough power over the game to shut it down, then I couldn't play. I couldn't risk coming back to the game and just getting hurt again. I would hate myself and my friends would lynch me (they're tired of hearing me talk about it.)
- Compulsive openworld PVP: I liked the fact that PvP in CoH was totally optional. Sure, there were badges involved, but they weren't required for much of anything. I don't think any accolade powers required a mix of PvP and PvE badges. I do not like the prospect of potentially being ganked by a higher-level player that I have no hope against when I roll a new toon in Atlas.
- Pay-to-Win BS: Pull incarnate content out from behind the pay-wall, even if you leave incarnate powers themselves locked. Heck, I'd honestly let players have their incarnate powers too. C'mon, you worked for that Lv50, and worked for that alpha experience, you should have the right to use it regardless of your pay status. I'd also want to see the invention system opened back up.
You can say what you want, but IOs were the single biggest boost in power players recieved prior to the hybrid model, and they're pretty much required if you want to exist in PvP at all. Limiting them to paying players immediately restricts PvP to the paying elite, who will stomp all fun from those who aren't, then leave because they have no easy targets once the free players realize they're not welcome in PvP any more. While it doesn't matter to me, I know a lot of players that it DOES matter to, and they aren't going to play if under those conditions (and indeed, I know a lot of players that STOPPED playing when they learned their IOs were going to be restricted come Freedom).- Be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR on what a Free account can and cannot do: There were way, way, WAY too many hidden disadvantages for playing free. No medium/large inspirations without veteran rewards, no merit rewards of any kind without subscription, an irritating interface button that you could not get rid of by any means, no invention enhancements without paid license, no participation in the game's economy without a license or subscription, no outgoing mail without vet rewards or subscription, no outgoing whispers without vet rewards or subscription, restricted reward tables for taskforces and other group activities, no incarnate powers... I would have appreciated a warning before running into all of these irritating, niggling little restrictions, everywhere.
Unavoidable PvP.
But not just any truck. I imagine it would have to be pretty big. And probably red. As trucks go, it would probably be a prime specimen, I'd say...I... erm... *didn't even think of that*
The lack of PvP would stop me from coming back, and it's sad that taking out PvP completely is actually a common suggestion when it's completely optional.
Are there even any MMO games where you cannot avoid PvP (Aside from joining PvP specific servers)? I've never heard this as a rational fear before. I honestly can't imagine an MMO that forces players to fight other players and somehow be successful.
Are there even any MMO games where you cannot avoid PvP (Aside from joining PvP specific servers)? I've never heard this as a rational fear before. I honestly can't imagine an MMO that forces players to fight other players and somehow be successful.Aion. If you don't PVP, you basically can't advance at anything even remotely approaching reasonable.
Aion. If you don't PVP, you basically can't advance at anything even remotely approaching reasonable.
1. All player data being reset/lost. We all have to make new accounts and everything we bought, vet powers earned and characters made were lost.No stopping, the characters I had were more or less complete... might be fun remaking them from scratch with slightly tweaked powerset choices tho.
2. No further developments or changes. Game in maintenance mode. (Issue 23) That is tough knowing the game will no longer evolve.Meh. Eight years of content, more than enough to keep everyone busy for a while.
2a. No successor.A successor would not be the original. Not an issue far as I'm concerned.
3. Radical changes to the game. Adding in or removal of "key" features. Fairly generic catagory but its possible if the game came back the powers to be decieded to add some new feature like open world pvp or say removed bases or inventions. This might bes too generic but just a topic of things changed which might make me not want to come back.Maaaybe, if the change altered the gameplay too much. Probably not an immediate deal-breaker tho.
Considering CoH was City of Altitis it really confuses me too that people wouldn't be thrilled at the chance to have an excuse to recreate their main and do it BETTER that time.
Le sigh.
"Main"? What's a "main"? :P
Technically they already did - consider the levels of power you can attain with invention sets. Then realise that to get then you either have to have veteran rewards, buy an invention license or subscribe, all of which require paying money. Also they were selling the booster powers, and dual/team inspirations which were outright better than standard ones and unavailable without paying.
And yet, no one really seemed to mind. I can't speak for everyone but there's a certain level of pay to win that I can tolerate. Really it's only when non-paying players become unable to play the game effectively that I have a problem. On the standard difficulty, that is. Not having to set it to -1..
I'd certainly love to see CoH come back and I would most likely want to support anyone who decided to stick their neck out and reboot the servers. I was just wondering, what might be a dealbreaker to you coming back to CoH?A data reset wouldn't faze me for a second. Now if the game was rolled back six years or more i'd be sort of "eeeehhh", but might try it a bit, depending.
1. All player data being reset/lost. We all have to make new accounts and everything we bought, vet powers earned and characters made were lost. Starting over at level 1 with no characters. I would be annoyed but it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me.
2. No further developments or changes. Game in maintenance mode. (Issue 23) That is tough knowing the game will no longer evolve.Permanently at Issue 23 i would still play, most likely not nearly as much as i used to after a while, but there was so much i had yet to do. Both in terms of character concepts, storylines, and the many fun and bizarre things the game's AI and physics engine could be contorted into. Often because of how the two interacted. There were a few things i still wanted to try.
2a. No successor.
3. Radical changes to the game. Adding in or removal of "key" features. Fairly generic catagory but its possible if the game came back the powers to be decieded to add some new feature like open world pvp or say removed bases or inventions. This might be too generic but just a topic of things changed which might make me not want to come back.Honestly, after playing from Issue 0 up to trying out Issue 24 on beta the only radical changes that could drive me away would be ones that completely changed the nature of the game or at least changed it in ways i despised. For example, if CoH was brought back by simply doing a search and replace of names in Champions Online and then calling it City of Heroes i wouldn't play it for very long. Open world PvP might annoy me depending on my mood, but luckily there is no shortage of instanced missions. While i enjoyed the occasional PvP i always approached it with a strong sense of the absurd and whimsy. i rarely played PvP to win, but nearly always played it to befuddle.
Ouch... I pretty much left the settings at -1 from level 1 to Incarnate Shift +3...
Considering CoH was City of Altitis it really confuses me too that people wouldn't be thrilled at the chance to have an excuse to recreate their main and do it BETTER that time.
Le sigh.
I think even if another company bought and restarted City of Heroes, we should expect it to be a blank slate restart. The challenges behind importing, indexing, verifying, keeping payment info safe and secure, and all that must go into online gaming accounts I could understand the new owners just wanting to start over.
Personally, I think they'd be better off buying the IP, making some sort of "upgrade", be it graphics or system related, and relaunching as a sequel. Hell for me i24 brought enough changes to warrant calling it a sequel (then again my main was a Blaster). I think people would understand needing to start over more if it were relaunched like that.
I'd personally be fine with re-rolling all 50 something of my alts if it meant I got my City back. There would have to be some extremely massive changes to the core game to keep me from coming back.
The fact that NCSoft didn't chose to do that is circumstantial evidence that this had nothing to do with the game's finances.yep.
A preference for doing so for whatever reason is not the same as being forced to do so because your character is absolutely incapable of running on the normal difficulty without buying boosts from the store, like some 'free' games do. Personally I frequently did the same, usually on characters with less damage like defenders or tanks just because it made it go faster.
It fills the time, but not the void.
It fills the time, but not the void.
No matter who brought CoH back there is always going to be the dreaded day when it gets shut down again. Even WOW will face that day, eventually.I can understand that, but they could've been more forthright about information regarding the shutdown, and more gradual in the shutdown process itself.
Im sure they erased our accounts and chars months ago. We lost everything...
Dear friends, im sure they erase our accounts and chars months ago. We lost everything...Our dream is restart to play on the exactly point that they closed the game. But it is really no possible....And yes, i'm still very depressed, there is no game to replace COX to me.
Me, I was always more interested in the story and trying out new powersets so I'd be happy to start over if it meant I had COH back.
I know people who spent hundreds of hours crafting just a few toons to make them awesome. I can see how they'd be unwilling to come back if it meant having to redo all that.
The thing that would really irk me is the loss of irreplaceable badges. But, lemons out of lemonade....
To me the best thing to happen would be that someone bought the servers and relaunched CoX so we can continue where we left off. Unless they purged the cox servers already, our login accounts should be stored on them since they were separate from ncsoft master accounts. I hope you all wrote down your passwords and account info.
If NCIdiocracy bundled CoX with the release of a new game, meaning that you had to buy the new game in order to get back into the City.... would you still do it?
... You know when they will decide to relaunch this game? I'd lay money on it: we'll get a revival notice a few weeks before Phoenix Project rolls out the gate. I. WOULD. BET. MONEY. That is TOTALLY the kind of **** they would do.
[not much money, but still.]
I already said that the only way CoX is getting sold is due to press about replacement games. But they'd better hurry up because no one would play the old game if a spiritual successor is on the horizon.
Im surprised about the negative feedback towards incarnates and inventions.
I personally found the Incarnate content to be almost 'disconnected' from the rest of the game. I think there was lots of potential there for 'untold tales of the Praetorian War' story arcs that would have helped glue the Incarnate Trials together into a more compelling story.
At one point, I thought about going back and doing all the Praetorian content, which certainly might have helped, but I never got around to it.
NCSoft being involved in any way.bingo for me as well, ive seen what nc did to tabula rasa, auto assault, and dungeon runners. :(
None of the other things would stop me at least playing casually other than compulsory open world PvP.
I personally found the Incarnate content to be almost 'disconnected' from the rest of the game. I think there was lots of potential there for 'untold tales of the Praetorian War' story arcs that would have helped glue the Incarnate Trials together into a more compelling story.
For me deal breaker would be if it was less enjoyable than the game I'm playing now.
Another one would be if they have no semblence of marketing plan.
With those two ir rather lack of those, I might as well stay where I'm at.
The last direct deal breakers are if they give no consideration to those may not like having to team to play with too much team required content and pay to win like invention and incarnate stuff. Put up with it for a while and played it to see and not itching to do it again, especially a player ran market making inf go into hyper inflation mode faster than the Zimbabwean dollar. Then, once again, if that happens, I will be better off staying where I am already now. My dealbreakers. Mine.
WAIT, WAIT, DON'T ANSWER HIM JAGUAR.
You have to hear it like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13eUZF2Lq2w
Okay, now you can answer him.
lol.
Well I was in middle of typing but lmao. Yeah, enough said right there. lol. That is how I visualized him as he typed those words. I guess since my opinion and deal breaker is diffferent he just cant emotionally take it. It makes him cry shed tears and cant sleep at night.
lol. Well, the world continue to turn as it has been with him and without him. Sad he doesnt realize that yet.
Yes, I am totally shedding tears and losing sleep over your posts. Some naive fools would just explain that last thing I said previously as a throwaway humorous reference, but no: your clear insight has seen right through me.
No, seriously. Your dealbreakers appear to be "the game as it was." I'm not seeing a whole lot of anything positive about the game from you and a whole lot of taking NCSoft's side. If the game comes back, it will most likely come back with your dealbreakers fully in effect.
I'm willing to allow that I could be horribly misjudging you. But I would need to know what motivates your participation here, because my attempts to discern it on my own leads me to some negative conclusions.
So. Why are you here?
Yet I cant lie and cant say I was kind of wonderign the same thing about you. Why are you here? To root out opinions that dont match your own and attack them and the person? You dont have many posts yet but seems like a good number of them, well most of them, that is all you seem to do. And of course spill hate about NCSOFT. Alright we get it, you hate ncsoft and wont give them another dime and you want a class action suit for them shutting down "your" game. Even in your deal breakers, you come off as it's all about you. You say as long they promise to not do it to "this" game. What about the others? Oh right, you dont care if they shut down the other games or any game. It's only an issue because they shut down "your" game and now it's wrong, but it is just and proper when they do it to others. It's all about you and your feelings. Damn everyone one else right? It's stupid for peopel to play their other titles, even though people do and have and will. Because you decided to not give them another dime anyone that does is stupid in your eyes. Yet I bet if they continued to shut down other games as they have in the past and COX wasnt the first if you was paying attention, you wouldnt care. You'd give NCSOFT all your money if you could. The action itself is not what you believe asa dick move. What was a dick move is that it was "your" game. But it wasnt a dick move when it happened to those other games.
But since it did happen to "your" game and now it's a dick move, and you feel a certain way about it, to you, as you come off and as you have stated, feeling any other way besides how you feel is absurd especially if someone choose with their own money to play another title of NCSOFT.
BTW, when I say "fair enough" I am not including this portion of your post:
I'm here because I want CoX back, and I'm willing to do whatever I can, however insignificant it is. I miss the game and I miss the people I played it with, even though I soloed a lot.
I never played any other NCSoft games so I have no feelings about them whatsoever and never have. I don't know if Tabula Rasa or Auto Assault were even profitable (like CoX was). I sympathize with the players of those games, however, because the #1 MMO killer got us too. I don't know what you were trying to accomplish by introducing that bizarre tangent.
As for my feelings toward NCSoft, I'm hardly alone. If I come up with an idea that will hurt NCSoft to the extent that they sell the game just to get rid of the trouble holding on to it would cause, and it's something that I can legally do, then I'm going to do it, period, end of story.
And really, putting "your" in scare-quotes when everyone able to discern context knows I'm speaking tongue-in-cheek does not paint you in a good light any more than it paints me in a bad one.
Just throwing this out there, but nothing in the forum topic suggests that we should interrogate each other regarding our answers.
I'm a proud NCSoft-boycotting City of Heroes fan. I get the impetus behind some of what you've posted around here lately Pinnacle. I even agree with some of it. Just not the parts that seem to challenge the value of anyone else's participation here. Yes, there are big fans of NCSoft here, but they are not the ones at fault. Some of them are helping to rebuild our lost world, or new worlds to fill the void. Some of them are Titan Network staff. No offense, but what are YOU doing to help? Personally, the friends I have in that camp, I'm not going to jeopardize those friendships on account of VIDEO GAMES. That would be pretty frakking cheap, don't you think?
Some may think it's stupid for you holding on to that anger and hate while not doing anything and instead going around calling other people decisions, which are not yours to make, stupid.
never said you was alone. In fact, most of the people, that I get along with just fine here, would rip NCSOFT apart limb by limb if thye was given an opportunity in a steel cage with no hesistation.
And that tangent isnt as bizzarre. You the one that made it a point in your deal breaker that you will return if they promise to not do the shut down again to THIS game. Well then, what about other games? You would still give money to them if they continued to shut down other games? And of course you probably dont know if games like Auto Assault or Tabula RAsa was profitbale because when they shut it down you didnt even care to look into it.
And what have you done legally to pursue your goal? I see you suggested it in between attacking other's opinions and ideas. But have you even made a move towards your own goal? Have you started a class action suit? Have you even contacted a lawyer to see if it would be good to do? It might be and if it is, go for it. Do what you have to do. That is why you are here aint it?
But what have you done actually outside throw a few ideas out there and your opinion and attack any opinion that idfferent from yours or call the action of moving to another ncsoft stupid? Are you moving on to another ncsoft title? I would think not judging by your comments. And that is your choice. Let others have their without attacking them.
I had some fun on CoH during it's run but theres no way I would play it again.
I had some fun on CoH during it's run but theres no way I would play it again.cool stuff.
Those are fighting words! (Kidding...)
(Maybe...)
cool stuff.
If COH comes back I would like the downtime to be woven into the storyline.
You're introduced to a cutscene right off the bat. Radio comm signal loaded with static, from either Longbow or Arachnos, not to you but rather the search & rescue teams that have been dispatched to dig up the remains of those who were caught in the disaster from the rubble.
Personally, I think the perfect cutscene would be AA's "Unity" video - Chasing the Shadows Away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyn_YuMLSNc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyn_YuMLSNc)
I'd certainly love to see CoH come back and I would most likely want to support anyone who decided to stick their neck out and reboot the servers. I was just wondering, what might be a dealbreaker to you coming back to CoH?
1. All player data being reset/lost. We all have to make new accounts and everything we bought, vet powers earned and characters made were lost. Starting over at level 1 with no characters. I would be annoyed but it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me.
2. No further developments or changes. Game in maintenance mode. (Issue 23) That is tough knowing the game will no longer evolve.
2a. No successor.
3. Radical changes to the game. Adding in or removal of "key" features. Fairly generic catagory but its possible if the game came back the powers to be decieded to add some new feature like open world pvp or say removed bases or inventions. This might be too generic but just a topic of things changed which might make me not want to come back.
The only thing that would even slow me down is spouse aggro.
I'd miss my vet perks and powers :-D
I loved logging in with a brand new alt for the first time, and waiting almost a minute for all the popups to stop. Then I'd start claiming all the rewards and sorting my power tray...Pocket D jump pack/VIP Pass, beast/ninja run, sands of mu, nemesis staff, remove fog of war, etc, etc. Not to mention the ability to pick travel powers at 6. I loved that my investment, play and commitment over the years gave me a much better QoL and enjoyable start to the life of an alt. I don't think I could break out of prison again, find Kalinda and go through it all again without those perks.
I also had so many free respecs/tailor tokens that even with a new character, I could probably go through their entire career and never pay for either (or do the trials, though I usually did them for the badges anyway).
Out of all of the complaints that I've seen in this thread, I can't think of one that would be a deal breaker and is in any way likely.
The only deal breaker would be open PvP in all areas, and that's not going to happen.
Otherwise... pay "wall", or gated content? I was paying a subscription for years, that wouldn't bother me at all.
Having to re-make characters? A shame to lose the influence and IO collections, but they can be built up again.
As a plus, I would be in the advance login group for sure, and would have a better chance to snag some snazzy names.
Out of all of the complaints that I've seen in this thread, I can't think of one that would be a deal breaker and is in any way likely.Well, apart from the obvious "dying thing", the one that would, unquestionably keep me out of the
The only deal breaker would be open PvP in all areas, and that's not going to happen.
Otherwise... pay "wall", or gated content? I was paying a subscription for years, that wouldn't bother me at all.
Having to re-make characters? A shame to lose the influence and IO collections, but they can be built up again.
As a plus, I would be in the advance login group for sure, and would have a better chance to snag some snazzy names.
I'd certainly love to see CoH come back and I would most likely want to support anyone who decided to stick their neck out and reboot the servers. I was just wondering, what might be a dealbreaker to you coming back to CoH?
1. All player data being reset/lost. We all have to make new accounts and everything we bought, vet powers earned and characters made were lost. Starting over at level 1 with no characters. I would be annoyed but it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me.
2. No further developments or changes. Game in maintenance mode. (Issue 23) That is tough knowing the game will no longer evolve.
2a. No successor.
3. Radical changes to the game. Adding in or removal of "key" features. Fairly generic catagory but its possible if the game came back the powers to be decieded to add some new feature like open world pvp or say removed bases or inventions. This might be too generic but just a topic of things changed which might make me not want to come back.
Real life.
This may not be a popular notion, but honestly, without me logging in to CoH/V every day, I've lost 60 pounds. (I can see muscles in my stomach! I'm 47! I've never seen muscles in my stomach before!
I've saved thousands of dollars, I've gotten several raises and gosh-golly, even made several real-life friends that I otherwise wouldn't have made because I would have been playing CoH instead.
I would still want to play, but I'd never be able to play with the same passion and intensity as I did before. I'd turn into one of those..."casual" gamers, who only played for an hour or so on the weekends. So very little time, it's hardly worth it, in my opinion. (Relax, nobody's ever paid dime one for my opinions)
Yes, I still miss leading the iTrials.
I still miss being led in iTrials and even task forces and ITF, specifically. Atta. Frostfire. The Striga Arcs. Soloing Dreck with my blaster and a fair amount of purple inspirations. I even miss the drama of LB, a chat channel on Liberty.
I miss the market and farming.
Generating all that inf for no other purpose than to just spend it if I needed to do so..that was the best feeling of all.
I also wish I'd gotten a little more into RP and had been less vocal about my in-game disappointments in other players. It all seems kind of silly to get upset over some player not paying attention and blowing up a bomb in the UGT. ...
New, idiotic developers that don't know half the pancake we have experienced and openly say that Paragon "Were amatuers". This would infuriate me beyond anything...And remind me of Diablo 3.
While it is nice to be able to get the exact name you want in CO it was amazing to see the creativity of players when Captain Awesome wasn't available: Cap'n Awesome, Captain Awesomesauce, Captain Aww-some, (various other ranks) awesome, Kapitain Awesome and maybe about a hundred other variants. I would hate to lose that.I don't know, for every "Captain MC Awesomepants" that situation created there were a dozen guys named things like "Captain Awesome ##", where ## was the next sequential number available. :)
This may not be a popular notion, but honestly, without me logging in to CoH/V every day, I've lost 60 pounds.I actually lost that amount of weight when still playing CoH regularly, and gained it back since its been gone. CoH let me interact with a lot of my friends that no longer lived in the same real world city which improved my mood, and it made it harder to snack then when camped mindlessly in front of a TV. :) WeightWatchers helped to of course... I have to rejoin that sometime.
1. Unreasonable charges way out of line with what the game was charging at close.
2. Major changes to gameplay that put it out of line with what I enjoy.
3. Introduction of any pay2win elements that are so common in the newer games.
4. Not sure if this would stop me, but it might give me pause. If they promise to bring the game back and it stays static
with no further releases. I quit GW1 because of this.
4. CoH when it comes back WILL be a static game... stuck in Issue 23... UNTIL CoH 1.5 (Atlas Park Revival) is completed.
1. Highly doubtful... they want to entice as many players to play Issue 23 CoH as possible.
2. They won't be making changes... the game will be just like it was the day the servers shut down.
3. See 1 & 2.
4. CoH when it comes back WILL be a static game... stuck in Issue 23... UNTIL CoH 1.5 (Atlas Park Revival) is completed.
character transfers are unlikely, that would either require knowledge of the server data or a static import system like titan.
the former would violate the proposed terms of the IP sale, the latter would be a huge backdoor into cheating AP1.5 by uploading artificially enhanced toons or accounts.
Pretty much nothing would stop me.
I doubt unavoidable PvP would ever be an issue, if NCIdiocracy was running the game, that would mean too much investment in the game. If someone else were running it, it would mean a complete redo of the game anyways.... so I dont ever see that happening.
I would remake everyone from the ground up if I had to.
I often wonder exactly WHAT NCIdiocracy actually DID with our servers. Are they wiped? I would not bet a dollar that the info is stil intact. The mere thought enrages me. But what can be done once, can be done again.
Currently, what would stop me is a lack of free time.
Things change. New job, new patterns of behavior. I hope that the game comes back, and I have time to play it.
I was thinking what would stop me from playing and I could only come up with a Mongol Horde invasion - which immediately led me to a new alt - Yak Attack.
On-topic, the community is what really made the game for me.That's pretty damn awesome. :)
In real life, I don't really feel like part of a social group very often. Even when I'm talking about human beings in general, I tend to say "they" or "people" instead of "we". After the Save-the-Game campaign began, I noticed something; the CoX community is my "we". I would give my dad updates on the situation, saying "we're gonna just keep playing until they shut the servers down" and "we have a petition going on-line" and stuff like that.
I want my "we" back.
That's all.
I know people who spent hundreds of hours crafting just a few toons to make them awesome. I can see how they'd be unwilling to come back if it meant having to redo all that.I've got a couple of friends whom I just can't convince to come back unless they get their characters back. As you said, they spent countless hours working on them. They were way more into that than I was. I only had 16 50s from 8 years of playing....that's not impressive at all from reading this forum. So at first the prospect of losing 8 years was a big deal to me....a lvl 50 represents a huge investment of my life.
Me, I was always more interested in the story and trying out new powersets so I'd be happy to start over if it meant I had COH back.
I'd miss my vet perks and powers :-DThat was a great "problem" to have, right? First thing I had to do was stand there in front of Ms Liberty and sort everything out. Sands of Mu and Nemesis Staff...sigh...I would miss those for sure. They made it worth slotting for global acc all by themselves. :D
I loved logging in with a brand new alt for the first time, and waiting almost a minute for all the popups to stop. Then I'd start claiming all the rewards and sorting my power tray...Pocket D jump pack/VIP Pass, beast/ninja run, sands of mu, nemesis staff, remove fog of war, etc, etc. Not to mention the ability to pick travel powers at 6. I loved that my investment, play and commitment over the years gave me a much better QoL and enjoyable start to the life of an alt. I don't think I could break out of prison again, find Kalinda and go through it all again without those perks.
I also had so many free respecs/tailor tokens that even with a new character, I could probably go through their entire career and never pay for either (or do the trials, though I usually did them for the badges anyway).
I would come back definitely.
So would my kids.
Come to think of it, the only thing that would stop me from coming back, concerning the game, would be if it was changed to the point where it would be more like other games like Champions Online or something like that.
*snip*
After some thinking, this ^
The game I want is CoH, not something called City of Heroes that is unrecognizable.
I agree. There is likely good advice to be inferred from this for those making the potential successor games. It's a confluence of the game setting/lore, the mechanics of the engine, the visual style, and the rule-sets. There's room in all of these for improvements, but one would have to be careful not to go too far away. I wish I could advise how far was too far, and what would stay in the zone.
Of course, for a possible relaunch of i23, I have no such concerns. ^_^
Upon hearing the news that we're back in buisness, I run way too fast to my computer, trip over the cat, and faceplant into a pile of conveniently placed landmines, and die @.@
You would let that stop you?? Clearly you don't love the game as much as I do, because that wouldn't be enough to stop me.
Ok, the ONLY thing that would keep me away would be, clown costume Wednesdays.
Yes, if each and every Wednesday ALL the characaters and players of City of Heroes were required, by law, to dress up in clown costumes. I'm allergic to grease paint, and a big red nose would clash with my eyes.
Also, ballarina Thursdays. I would hate to see Lord Recluse dressed up like a ballarina.
Ok, the ONLY thing that would keep me away would be, clown costume Wednesdays.
Yes, if each and every Wednesday ALL the characaters and players of City of Heroes were required, by law, to dress up in clown costumes. I'm allergic to grease paint, and a big red nose would clash with my eyes.
If there wasn't free-to-play and the subscription price was too steep. I guess I could give up eating, to save money, so that works, never mind.
2.) I know there were rumblings and talks of this earlier on, and I'm not sure if anything is concrete or set in stone with this...but I wouldn't want to see other toons from the other successor projects having the ability to come over to COH, and vice-versa. While I wish all of the other gaming titles in the superhero MMORPG genre the best of luck, I think everyone should just stay in their lane and remain separate games, lore and all.