"Seriously? How can this be anything but doa? Currently racking up debt (vounteers and engine) with a game that was already failing? And all of this assumes they do not cross a line and have NcSoft sue them into oblivion because of copyright."
Originally posted by Markusrind
Quantify failing? Was still financially profitable when it was shut and that is what usually causes these things to close. So a team with reasonable expectations could keep it going and still earn a profit...win win if you ask me.
"Nope. It was shown that revenue was up, but I have not seen any proof of the game being actually profitable. The amount of support gathered was less than what was put forth in a similar bid by the Galaxies fanboy's when the Nge happened to get back pre cu/nge servers (which is sad because they had similar sized player bases at that point)."
Also, you really think they would be doing this if there wasn't an agreement in place?
"Yes. This sort of extremely small, extremely tightknit niche held together by dreams I easily see doing just that. Look at original CoH, flying under the radar until Marvel saw encroachment to copyright and then they were sued into oblivion till they settled out of court."
The posts in quotes are from a MMORPG user that ironically has an avatar of himself dressed as Captain America. One of the game he is most looking forward to playing....Wildstar.
I just call it as I see it.
Touche, my friend. Touche.
But doesn't mean they are NCSOFT Kool-Aid drinkers. If they didn't shut down COX many of us still would have been looking forward to playing wildstar and other games also. Remember not everyone that is steaming mad at ncsoft is automatically a ncsoft backer or drinking the kool aid just as if someone promits the new game or is mad at ncsoft isn't automatically drinking the hate and destroy ncsoft Kool-Aid. Most people are actually in between and many people just don't care either way about the closing of COX truthfully. Especially those that didn't play COX, which is expected to come across in the public forums outside the COX player realm.
And the lawsuit thing and being sued and etc. have been in discussions, sometimes heated and sometimes saying the same as they said by people that despise ncsoft. Even here that discussion about legalities came up more than once.
But as I said, it's not just that article, in many other articles, many people are quick to pull the troll/ncsoft Kool-Aid drinker card anytime someone say something remotely positive about ncsoft, question the savecox cause, or just don't see what the big deal is. Which is natural because not everyone played cox and not everyone experienced a game shut down and some people will simply shrug when a game get closed and move on to the next. And just as many here cant fanthom why someone would just shrug and move on, they probably cant fathom why someone would make a big fuss about it. And in many cases I seen people from here go on the attack against said people. People here want others to understand what can happen especially when dealing with NCSOFT and want people to listen and or understand why it's important but plug their ears at anything but hate ncsoft and call anyone that is not drinking the hate ncsoft "Kool-Aid" trolls.
Trolls troll the troll which troll the troll which trolls the trolls until no one know who trolled who and the entire point is lost. All I'm saying is we as a whole should try t be a bit more understanding as much as we wish those "trolls" to understand our cause and realize that most of us was once just like them. Back in 2010, someone said anything negative or point out ncsoft business practice they was flamed off the forum (remember the term "Doom!sayers" name calling that was thrown around??) of cox because many couldn't understand it.
Yeah sometimes trolls will be trolls plain and simple but not everything that is for ncsoft or indifferent is a troll or ncsoft Kool-Aid drinker. And to be perfectly honest, some trolls are expected because at first many people of this cause wasn't the exactly the nicest people to be around when getting the word out about what happened. Many took it too far and cross the line of informing to forcing their view and emotions onto others. But as long as people continue to call each other trolls and not bothering to stop and think, then it will always be tense us vs them with us or against us. And if we are aiming to inform and change the industry, that line of thinking is very counter productive. Cant expect the other side to think and be civil if this side never bother to extend and try to be civil themselves and instead just call everything and anyone outside a troll.
