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Community => Other Games => Champions Online => Topic started by: Blackout on September 08, 2014, 08:53:25 PM

Title: Returning to Champions, and I have a few worries.
Post by: Blackout on September 08, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
So as the title states I've been hoping to return to Champions online as I feel I've been away from super hero games far too long. In addition I also remember having a lot of fun with champions back when it released and back in 2011 too, however in looking into it again I've run into some things that worry me. Primarily Is their new launcher ARC, I've read a quite a few forum posts on several websites about people claiming it contains spyware, and after looking at the terms and conditions you have to agree too that doesn't seem that far off of the mark.

Should I be too worried about this or am I fretting over nothing? I always have the option of just not playing champions, but at the same time I don't want to completely abandon the game.
Title: Re: Returning to Champions, and I have a few worries.
Post by: Brou on September 08, 2014, 09:52:58 PM
You're coming back at a great time, since there will be a content release on Wednesday.

ARC does not contain spyware(at least nothing that peeks at other parts of your system). If you are concerned about it, you can always download th egame via Steam.
Title: Re: Returning to Champions, and I have a few worries.
Post by: Blackout on September 08, 2014, 10:03:06 PM
You're coming back at a great time, since there will be a content release on Wednesday.

ARC does not contain spyware(at least nothing that peeks at other parts of your system). If you are concerned about it, you can always download th egame via Steam.

I actually already own it on steam from years back, I just don't have it installed. The problem is that I actually found became worried about the whole spyware thing when I tried to install it via steam. Here is what is specifically bothering me.

(e)   You understand and agree that the Software may monitor and communicate information from your computer, including without limitation information relating to hardware capacity, modifications and the presence of unauthorized third party programs, including programs that enable or facilitate cheating or obtaining an unfair advantage of any kind, allow users to modify or hack any portion of the Software or the Service (other than as expressly authorized by PWE) or intercept or collect any information from or through the Software or the Service ("Unauthorized Programs"). If the Software detects an Unauthorized Program, then the Software may also communicate further information back to PWE regarding the user and the Unauthorized Program, including without limitation information about the users account and User ID and about the Unauthorized Program and its use. Further, you understand and agree that when you communicate with other players within a game or utilize any interactive features available through the Software or Service, such as instant messaging, forums or chat rooms, such communications and postings are transmitted through our servers, and we may, but are not obligated to, monitor all such communications and postings, including those that are designated as "private." You acknowledge that you have no expectation of privacy with respect to any such communications or postings, and you expressly consent to the monitoring and information collection described in this Section 5(d).

Title: Re: Returning to Champions, and I have a few worries.
Post by: Brou on September 08, 2014, 10:28:35 PM
That means that they can catch someone cheating without the person turning around and suing for the monitoring used to find out.
It allows they to find out if your client has been modified, if you have a cheat program in memory, or if you have sent messages from within the software that breaches TOU.

It doesn't appear that they have permission to access what your outside browsers, like Firefox, are doing.
Title: Re: Returning to Champions, and I have a few worries.
Post by: Blackout on September 08, 2014, 10:46:12 PM
That means that they can catch someone cheating without the person turning around and suing for the monitoring used to find out.
It allows they to find out if your client has been modified, if you have a cheat program in memory, or if you have sent messages from within the software that breaches TOU.

It doesn't appear that they have permission to access what your outside browsers, like Firefox, are doing.

Ah, okey dokey thanks very much for clearing that up. If thats the case I'll give champions another shot I suppose.
Also apologies for the inconvenience, I do tend to get paranoid from time to time.
Title: Re: Returning to Champions, and I have a few worries.
Post by: Super Firebug on September 10, 2014, 04:53:46 PM
Ah, okey dokey thanks very much for clearing that up. If thats the case I'll give champions another shot I suppose.
Also apologies for the inconvenience, I do tend to get paranoid from time to time.

I fully understand. I'm very concerned about my privacy, too, especially given the surveillance state that the U.S. is rapidly becoming has become. If I'm not under suspicion of something, then what I do is no one's business but mine. (I know someone will condemn me as being of the tinfoil-hat crowd. So be it.)
Title: Re: Returning to Champions, and I have a few worries.
Post by: Xev on September 11, 2014, 02:21:00 AM
The game is just easier to run from a shortcut. You never have to update the shortcut, it's simple to operate, and it never breaks,

The only virtue I see in Arc is if you use the social aspect of it.

I don't want Arc to fail, just saying, it has been my experience that the game is just way simpler to run directly.

The first time Arc made me download 30 meg for an update my bandwidth restricted self stopped using it.